Why Itachi is more respected than Madara

[itachi4real]

@bold:by who? The oppressor and the servants of the oppressor. Using fear as a tool to manipulate people is what oppressors tend to do.

Tell us who was going to invade the leaf? I ask because we have the loss of the 4th and a lot of ninja there wasn't an invasion, we had the loss of the Uchiha clan there was no invasion, we had the loss of 3rd and many more ninja yet there was no invasion. At every juncture Konoha became weaker yet there was no invasion.

You see the problem is that Hiruzen and the elders werw worried they would lose power and they'd be exposed. They knew that they would no longer be able to carry out the will of Nazirama Senju so they decided to use the fear of war as a mechanism to manipulate Itachi.

The purpose of a covert coup is to minimise casualties, the Uchiha had 4 demands they wanted met. And Nazirama's children weren't willing to meet them since they'd lose power and the ability to oppress. As for everybody else the clans were unaware of the Uchiha intent once Hiruzen and the others were held captive and everything became apparent I don't see them siding with the elders. Another fear the elders had since they knew they'd lose all influence.

The truth is Itachi massacred women, children and the elderly not to prevent war, but to show how much of a good ***** he is.



I agree the elders were worried they'd lose the ability to oppress the Uchiha. Decades of Tobirama's work would be undone overnight. As for the will of Fire I've never really understood it, it touts nobility but is full of hypocrisy. All I've ever seen is a hypocrite after hypocrite, each and every Kage. Even Naruto's only able to do what he does because Sasuke mans the shadows.

Too long to read lol. Its funny because ur explain as if I don't see ur point of view. It's easy to see ur point of view. Im guessing it's hard for u to see from my side. Stop complaining without Itachi's doing Sasuke WOULD NOT be what he is today

 

[itachi4real]

At a bar we saw how much Konoha shinobi respected him. Putting a kunai in his face at the Bingo Book.

While Madara's death was respected even by SO6P himself.

That's respect for you.

Yea but they can't f*** wit him or else he woulda been dead. Just having the having the hokages respect is enough. Fodders don't count. What matters is everyone that face Itachi knew he was that n*gg*.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Yea but they can't f*** wit him or else he woulda been dead. Just having the having the hokages respect is enough. Fodders don't count. What matters is everyone that face Itachi knew he was that n*gg*.

Yeah, SO6P is fodder. And btw Hokages just appreciate his good job for maintaning the hegemony and monopoly of power.
While killing his own mother. What a great person.

 

[minamoto]

Why Madara would always fail, because he shouldered everything and thought despite betraying every single person that pracically rubbed his balls, he wouldn't be betrayed later on. He was quite the monster in battle, and he has a good head on his shoulder, but for this single fact, he was quite a dumb-ass, especially since he knew the extent anyone can go if they want anything for themselves. BZ was damn well functioning as a separate body and he clearly was an independent will, as smart as he was.

shouldring everything isn't point of weakness as u think.. its point of strenght....like a white zetsu once said : "...if u r like Madara or if u have Madara's powerz and abilities , u can make every plan succeed.."

-also do you read manga????Madara never failed ,he was only one who had plan and goal and acheived them...in the end he casted mugen tsukoyomi...that's called success...if black zetsu didn't betrayed him we would've seen teh fruits of madara's plan...


-madara is dumbass??? hahaha how?? becuz he got tricked by black zetsu??..thats count as one mistake from his side..a black liquid come from behind and stabbed him in back like fodder...what you want him to do???? this wasn't even a face face fight ...that's how kishi plotdevised to stop madara becuz he couldn't finish him off..


-or u know what lets forget about madara...lets just talk about his name....it made shinboi world shoock..


-a wise manga reader can clearly seen this "kishimoto best character is madara" but kishi is unable to admitt this...

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

The fact that Sasuke and Naruto lives to this day bull Itachi moral is proof he was just as repected as Itachi. Madara was stronger no question. But overall Itachi was a better MORE REPSPECTED NINJA than Madara.

No he is not entire Konoha consider Itachi as traitor and criminal while Madara is together as Hashirama known as founder Of Konoha and former leader and strongest member of Uchiha clan.

Why was Edo Madara Kabuto's trump card and not Edo Itachi ?

Why 5 nations feared Madara and not Itachi ?

Why Madara has giant statue and not Itachi ?

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

I mean Black Zetsu is in awe of Itachi, here's another scan of which he said to Sasuke. Itachi was feared and respected outside his village more than in his own village.

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[itachi4real]

Yeah, SO6P is fodder. And btw Hokages just appreciate his good job for maintaning the hegemony and monopoly of power.
While killing his own mother. What a great person.

What?? Nobody said SO6P was fodder. Where did u get that. I was saying fodders who didn't respect Itachi knew not to step to him. Madara was more respected in battle. Itachi was respected in battle and knowledge/wisdom

 

[salamander uchiha]

Too long to read lol. Its funny because ur explain as if I don't see ur point of view. It's easy to see ur point of view. Im guessing it's hard for u to see from my side. Stop complaining without Itachi's doing Sasuke WOULD NOT be what he is today

While I see your point of view I've expressed disagreement with it. As for Sasuke he's not/wasn't 1 of my favs, he was only allowed to join my top 10 recently on showing some decency towards Sarada. The Recent novel and his recent anime actions helped him out in that resepct.

Edit: I understand Itachi's character, generally I like him somewhat but I can't accept his action or the reasoning behind it.

 

[minamoto]

I mean Black Zetsu is in awe of Itachi, here's another scan of which he said to Sasuke. Itachi was feared and respected outside his village more than in his own village.

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dude this is just 1 scan...there are many scans of black zetsu praizing madara..and other scans of itachi praizing madara.......

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

shouldring everything isn't point of weakness as u think.. its point of strenght....like a white zetsu once said : "...if u r like Madara or if u have Madara's powerz and abilities , u can make every plan succeed.."

-also do you read manga????Madara never failed ,he was only one who had plan and goal and acheived them...in the end he casted mugen tsukoyomi...that's called success...if black zetsu didn't betrayed him we would've seen teh fruits of madara's plan...


-madara is dumbass??? hahaha how?? becuz he got tricked by black zetsu??..thats count as one mistake from his side..a black liquid come from behind and stabbed him in back like fodder...what you want him to do???? this wasn't even a face face fight ...that's how kishi plotdevised to stop madara becuz he couldn't finish him off..


-or u know what lets forget about madara...lets just talk about his name....it made shinboi world shoock..


-a wise manga reader can clearly seen this "kishimoto best character is madara" but kishi is unable to admitt this...

If Madara could do everything on his own, then why did he need Obito at his hospitality when he grew old and got wrinkles in his balls? Why did he entrust Obito with starting the Akatsuki? Why did he almost go on his knees trying to get Sasuke on his side, then stabbed him after being turned down? :Sparks:

 

[JKakano]

Not only that, Itachi never showed remorse over the fact he killed his own kin. While Madara went mad over the fact that he wasn't able to help them. It's stated in the databook that his greates pleasure was gaining respect from his clan. Well, that's how a true leader works.

Itachi doesn't deserve to be put in the same sentence with someone that gave away his life for his family and the world's sake.

Ah you are just itachi hater and i will not hear anyone who are hater. I love Madara and Itachi but i think itachi is respected the most. He didn't think for himself. Madara think about himself and very cruel to people. He disrespected his clan, no pride in his clan etc etc.. Itachi had no choice but save the war in trade he could save Sasuke cos he knew Sasuke is future and he is right Sasuke is value as in Boruto geneation. Lucky Sasuke didn't die all thank to Itachi. Madara is only amazed was himself - how he succeed in gaining so powerful that all, sadly he was betrayed again.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I mean Black Zetsu is in awe of Itachi, here's another scan of which he said to Sasuke. Itachi was feared and respected outside his village more than in his own village.

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BZ never seemed to respect Madara even one bit. Every time he praised somebody he seemed to utter Itachi's name, and Itachi to him had become a compass with which to measure everyone else intellectually and in amazing feats. Ps. Even fucking Danzou was comparing Sasuke to Itachi.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

dude this is just 1 scan...there are many scans of black zetsu praizing madara..and other scans of itachi praizing madara.......

Black Zetsu is fcking bipolar when it comes to Madara though, never liked BZ throwing shade at anybody because he didn't do much.

His opinion of Itachi was very firm though. Itachi praised Madara, but a lot more characters praised Itachi. Majority rules right. This thread is about who is respected more.

 

[itachi4real]

No he is not entire Konoha consider Itachi as traitor and criminal while Madara is together as Hashirama known as founder Of Konoha and former leader and strongest member of Uchiha clan.

Why was Edo Madara Kabuto's trump card and not Edo Itachi ?

Why 5 nations feared Madara and not Itachi ?

Why Madara has giant statue and not Itachi ?

It doesn't matter what they think about him its respect regardless. Whether it's good or bad respect. They knew not to f*** him tho.

He was the Trump card because he was a fusion of the of the god of shinobi. If Madara was enough he wouldn't have adjustments.

Can't lie Madara was the second strongest be hind hashi. So of course he was feared.


Madara has a giant statue because he chose his power wasn't enough so he stole some of hashis power to gain rinnegan. It's crazy how madara and plenty other powerhouses respect hashi. And hashi respects itachi.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Black Zetsu is fcking bipolar when it comes to Madara though, never liked BZ throwing shade at anybody because he didn't do much.

His opinion of Itachi was very firm though. Itachi praised Madara, but a lot more characters praised Itachi. Majority rules right. This thread is about who is respected more.

I doubt it was genuine respect. The entire fight between him and Sasuke was all a facade to get Sasuke to kill him and lying about Madara and wanting to be like him was probably in a list of all the setups to push Sasuke towards a desired outcome.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

BZ never seemed to respect Madara even one bit. Every time he praised somebody he seemed to utter Itachi's name, and Itachi to him had become a compass with which to measure everyone else intellectually and in amazing feats. Ps. Even fucking Danzou was comparing Sasuke to Itachi.

I agree with a lot of characters respecting Itachi except for the stupid leaf villagers at that time. There is a scan with Obito and Sasuke at a bar when the villagers were talking about him.

Black Zetsu respected Madara when talking trash to Obito, like he was all like " This is Madara's brilliant plan", " Madara's will", " Madara was no fool to let Tobirama find his body". I have to disagree, he respected Madara but not to the level as Itachi.

 

[minamoto]

If Madara could do everything on his own, then why did he need Obito at his hospitality when he grew old and got wrinkles in his balls? Why did he entrust Obito with starting the Akatsuki? Why did he almost go on his knees trying to get Sasuke on his side, then stabbed him after being turned down? :Sparks:

dude madara didn't knock at Bobito's door and asked him for help..it was obito who coincidently fall on madara's cave then madara said "mmmmmH i have good plan why dont i just use this fodder kid as back up plan"


-also madara never trusted bobito....there is a huge portion of truth missing in obito flashbacks...(tobidara theory answers them all)..


-do you think old Madara is dumb stupid to just die and entrust his 100 years of working plan to a 14 years kid????...(but anyway this is not subject of debate)..


-also u said madara went on his knees trying to get sasuke on his side...lol hahaha no of course madara gave sasuke a offer : EITHER YOU JOIN ME OR YOU DIE..." sasuke choosed to die.. thats all..

 

[minamoto]

Black Zetsu is fcking bipolar when it comes to Madara though, never liked BZ throwing shade at anybody because he didn't do much.

His opinion of Itachi was very firm though. Itachi praised Madara, but a lot more characters praised Itachi. Majority rules right. This thread is about who is respected more.

so u respect a child killer but not some1 who soloed ur fav in face face battle??.......goood f..... logik narutobaser..keep it up..

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

It doesn't matter what they think about him its respect regardless. Whether it's good or bad respect. They knew not to f*** him tho.

He was the Trump card because he was a fusion of the of the god of shinobi. If Madara was enough he wouldn't have adjustments.

Can't lie Madara was the second strongest be hind hashi. So of course he was feared.


Madara has a giant statue because he chose his power wasn't enough so he stole some of hashis power to gain rinnegan. It's crazy how madara and plenty other powerhouses respect hashi. And hashi respects itachi.

1. Kabuto did add anything new to Madara. Madara awaken Rinnegan at old age all Kabuto did was to revive him with Rinnegan at younger age. Madara even said to Kabuto don't get confused this power wasn't created by you.

2. No one is denying Itachi doesn't have respect but he doesn't have as much as Madara does. 5 nations didn't unite because of fear of Itachi but because of Madara.

Even Itachi respects Madara while Madara doesn't even mention Itachi.

 

[itachi4real]

If Madara could do everything on his own, then why did he need Obito at his hospitality when he grew old and got wrinkles in his balls? Why did he entrust Obito with starting the Akatsuki? Why did he almost go on his knees trying to get Sasuke on his side, then stabbed him after being turned down? :Sparks:

Madara did do everything on his own. EVERYTHING!!! He was too old. He just really needed somebody to bring him back to life which obito failed at.clearly he could did what obito did in no time at all. He wanted Sasuke on his side because he was the last uchiha what u think.