Why Itachi is more respected than Madara

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Nonsense the village wasn't going anywhere, Danzo confirmed to itachi it was unknown wether anybody would attack Konoha. The Clan leaders weren't stupid and neither was Fugaku he planned a coup(kidnap leadership) and get dwmands met not an all out war. Once the uxhiah demanded equality the clans would've been in agreement. An all our war against the clans would've led to Konoha's demise and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't risk that. Stop coming out with BS to justify Shitachi's actions

Konoha elders actually were just that greedy. They didn't want to share power chairs in any kind of way.
And btw, the very fact that Salad is brainwashed Will of Fire fool, it's exactly what fascist and determinist Tobirama and Danzou's idelogy wanted. Actually Sasuke has been brainwashed the most allowing his offspring to be Konoha's.
Now he pays the price. Uchiha with glasses. I wonder what Uchiha ancestors are thinking. Phew. Poor guys.

That's imperialism for you.
 

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Yeah because it's much more right to kill them rather than give them rights as the co founders of Konoha, and stop the determinism ideology spread all over by the Konoha elders themselves.
U sound sensitive. It's a anime/cartoon u would expect kids and such to be killed. It's an anime about NINJA.

Nonsense the village wasn't going anywhere, Danzo confirmed to itachi it was unknown wether anybody would attack Konoha. The Clan leaders weren't stupid and neither was Fugaku he planned a coup(kidnap leadership) and get dwmands met not an all out war. Once the Uchiha demanded equality the clans would've been in agreement. An all our war against the clans would've led to Konoha's demise and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't risk that. Stop coming out with BS to justify Shitachi's actions.

It's been confirmed plenty of times that there would be war. Dafuq are u talking bout. U basically saying there would be no casualties behind the uchiha trying to overthrow and take over the village. U think hiruzen and everyone else would let that happen. Nah playa like I said I don't know what scenario u had in mind.
 

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U sound sensitive. It's a anime/cartoon u would expect kids and such to be killed. It's an anime about NINJA.
Hashirama himself complained about that, therefore I can too. lol

People like you shouldn't ever complain about Madara starting 4 shinobi war. Or Sasuke seeking revenge for his family.
 

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I dont get why many get rustled over fact's. Its the fact Madara got obliterated by Hashirama. Its the fact he got obliteratified by Zetsu. In his most strongest form. Whereas Akatsuki and The entire SA feared Itachi. Even after he died, Shikaku thought the one responsible for putting SA in genjutsu is him. This's all without outside power. Madara in his best shape only became immortal; while Itachi is absolute invincible. There are tiers to this.

He is ten tiers atleast lower than Itachi.
 

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I dont get why many get rustled over fact's. Its the fact Madara got obliterated by Hashirama. Its the fact he got obliteratified by Zetsu. In his most strongest form. Whereas Akatsuki and The entire SA feared Itachi. Even after he died, Shikaku thought the one responsible for putting SA in genjutsu is him. This's all without outside power. Madara in his best shape only became immortal; while Itachi is absolute invincible. There are tiers to this.

He is ten tiers atleast lower than Itachi.

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And Shinkaku implied that Itachi can cast a genjutsu on the entire alliance. Next.

But did Itachi have then alliance clinging to their religion in fear just by being present? You should read the tittle, OP asked who was respected and Madara is a historic focal figure in the NV whose threat of return lead to the the entire shinobi world aligning for the first time in history.
 

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Hashirama himself complained about that, therefore I can too. lol

People like you shouldn't ever complain about Madara starting 4 shinobi war. Or Sasuke seeking revenge for his family.
I don't complain about him starting a war. Madara is my top five fav but y'all slay Itachi like he ain't one of the realest and some of decisions was dumb when really all his decisions led to peace.

And hashi Neve complained about him killing the clan. They seemed unphased about it.
 

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No he failed with sasuke. Everything else he did he excelled. Stop hatin bruh

i'm not hating...i made many threads defending itachi from fake itachi fans....


this fake itachi fans mock my tobidara theory but they dont realize that itachi's true worth and honor will only happen when tobidara's gets revealed cuz for now itachi is nothing more then a fool who got fooled by bobito...

-itachi is not dumb to say tobi is madara i am defending itachi more then those fake itachi fans who deny tobidara reveal...
 

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i'm not hating...i made many threads defending itachi from fake itachi fans....


this fake itachi fans mock my tobidara theory but they dont realize that itachi's true worth and honor will only happen when tobidara's gets revealed cuz for now itachi is nothing more then a fool who got fooled by bobito...

-itachi is not dumb to say tobi is madara i am defending itachi more then those fake itachi fans who deny tobidara reveal...

What? I defended tobidara along time ago. I was one of the first one to believe tobidara because of itachi. Itachi made it clear that wasn't obito at certain times. I just let it go cus most people don't believe but yea I'm he was real.
 

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No he failed with sasuke. Everything else he did he excelled. Stop hatin bruh

Yeah. He excelled at killing his own mother, torturing his little brother, and becoming a psycho. Rightfully gaining the hatred of both Konoha and the Uchiha clan.
 

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What kind of nonsense is this.

1. It was well known that Itachi is member of Akatsuki yet no one even cared about that. Yet when they found out about Madara they started war. 5 nations united for first time because of fear of Uchiha Madara not some weakling like Itachi.

2."Itachi stayed loyal to Uchiha" Hahaha. He killed entire Uchiha clan while Madara was their leader for his entire life. Itachi is disgrace to Uchiha clan , he was used by someone like Hiruzen and Danzo.

3.And Madara doesn't need Hashi dna ,Juubi or Rinnegan to defeat MS Itachi. EMS Madara >> MS Itachi not even comparable.

Who soloed 9 Bijuus ? Madara

Who soloed 5 kages ? Madara

Who put entire world into IT ? Madara

Pretty much fail thread.

Madara has more respect and bigger reputation and is stronger by Itachi even without outside power and using just "Uchiha heritage"
 

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It's been confirmed plenty of times that there would be war. Dafuq are u talking bout. U basically saying there would be no casualties behind the uchiha trying to overthrow and take over the village. U think hiruzen and everyone else would let that happen. Nah playa like I said I don't know what scenario u had in mind.

@bold:by who? The oppressor and the servants of the oppressor. Using fear as a tool to manipulate people is what oppressors tend to do.

Tell us who was going to invade the leaf? I ask because we have the loss of the 4th and a lot of ninja there wasn't an invasion, we had the loss of the Uchiha clan there was no invasion, we had the loss of 3rd and many more ninja yet there was no invasion. At every juncture Konoha became weaker yet there was no invasion.

You see the problem is that Hiruzen and the elders werw worried they would lose power and they'd be exposed. They knew that they would no longer be able to carry out the will of Nazirama Senju so they decided to use the fear of war as a mechanism to manipulate Itachi.

The purpose of a covert coup is to minimise casualties, the Uchiha had 4 demands they wanted met. And Nazirama's children weren't willing to meet them since they'd lose power and the ability to oppress. As for everybody else the clans were unaware of the Uchiha intent. Once Hiruzen and the others were held captive and everything became apparent I don't see them siding with the elders. Another fear the elders had since they knew they'd lose all influence.

The truth is Itachi massacred women, children and the elderly not to prevent war, but to show how much of a good ***** he is.

Konoha elders actually were just that greedy. They didn't want to share power chairs in any kind of way.
And btw, the very fact that Salad is brainwashed Will of Fire fool, it's exactly what fascist and determinist Tobirama and Danzou's idelogy wanted. Actually Sasuke has been brainwashed the most allowing his offspring to be Konoha's.
Now he pays the price. Uchiha with glasses. I wonder what Uchiha ancestors are thinking. Phew. Poor guys.

That's imperialism for you.

I agree the elders were worried they'd lose the ability to oppress the Uchiha. Decades of Tobirama's work would be undone overnight. As for the will of Fire I've never really understood it, it touts nobility but is full of hypocrisy. All I've ever seen is a hypocrite after hypocrite, each and every Kage. Even Naruto's only able to do what he does because Sasuke mans the shadows.
 
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Why Madara would always fail, because he shouldered everything and thought despite betraying every single person that pracically rubbed his balls, he wouldn't be betrayed later on. He was quite the monster in battle, and he has a good head on his shoulder, but for this single fact, he was quite a dumb-ass, especially since he knew the extent anyone can go if they want anything for themselves (from his own actions). BZ was damn well functioning as a separate body and he clearly was an independent will, as smart as he was.
 
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What kind of nonsense is this.

1. It was well known that Itachi is member of Akatsuki yet no one even cared about that. Yet when they found out about Madara they started war. 5 nations united for first time because of fear of Uchiha Madara not some weakling like Itachi.

2."Itachi stayed loyal to Uchiha" Hahaha. He killed entire Uchiha clan while Madara was their leader for his entire life. Itachi is disgrace to Uchiha clan , he was used by someone like Hiruzen and Danzo.

3.And Madara doesn't need Hashi dna ,Juubi or Rinnegan to defeat MS Itachi. EMS Madara >> MS Itachi not even comparable.

Who soloed 9 Bijuus ? Madara

Who soloed 5 kages ? Madara

Who put entire world into IT ? Madara

Pretty much fail thread.

Madara has more respect and bigger reputation and is stronger by Itachi even without outside power and using just "Uchiha heritage"

The fact that Sasuke and Naruto lives to this day bull Itachi moral is proof he was just as repected as Itachi. Madara was stronger no question. But overall Itachi was a better MORE REPSPECTED NINJA than Madara.
 

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The fact that Sasuke and Naruto lives to this day bull Itachi moral is proof he was just as repected as Itachi. Madara was stronger no question. But overall Itachi was a better MORE REPSPECTED NINJA than Madara.

At a bar we saw how much Konoha shinobi respected him. Putting a kunai in his face at the Bingo Book.

While Madara's death was respected even by SO6P himself.

That's respect for you.
 
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