Why i believe Kakuzu is above Sasori

Bogard

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In Akatsuki lists i see people most of the time puting Sasori above Kakuzu and i clearly don't know why. Sasori on his own admission had difficulties to enter Akatsuki, was the first Akamen to die both at the begin of shippuden or in this war, the former being against Sakura, the latter against Kankuro. Kakuzu on the other side is a man who fought the God of Shinobi(Hashirama) without the takigakure forbidden technique and survived, who killed multiple of his Akatsuki partners when his boiling points were low and was killed while being put against multiple high level opponents both in middle shippuden and in this war

Reasons why i believe Kakuzu > Sasori

Kakuzu's doton domu makes him immune to every physical attacks by hype:

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Only weakness is

Tanking feat:

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Sasori's arsenal is all made of physical attacks and unfortunately he has no raiton affinity. But what is even worse is that his attacks are weak in general

Sasori's arsenal:

- poisoned kunais

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- poisoned needles

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- bunch of puppet hands

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- Fire attack
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- A piercing rope
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Kunais, needles, some bunch of hands, a small fire attack, a piercing rope aren't enough to even scratch Kakuzu's defensive capacity when you see him capable to tank

Furthermore when he uses his rope, he is really vulnerable
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So i think it's really not a move he should use in battle personally

- Sasori also has his puppet army
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But this army of puppet is manly composed on kunais or chakra blades, none of which i believe could scratch Kakuzu. Furthermore, they have shown no resilience feats easily defeated by Chiyo's puppets or Sakura punches
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The way Chiyo's puppets for example, Kakuzu's fuuton attack could destroy all of them in one blow
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The only advantage i can see Sasori using with them is to take advantage of the number to try to catch Kakuzu off-guard, but with kakuzu himself having 4hearts(besides his own one) as a support with much more destructive powers, i think he can easily leave them do the job done when himself could either dodge some of them if needed or use his doton domu to protect himself against such weak attacks

The only doubtful thing i have concerning Sasori's arsenal is his because of the magnetism ability. But unfortunately even this magnetism ability only works on , something that Kakuzu doesn't even use weapons when he fights(or rarely). Even if he used it, it doesn't change the main problem anyway, which is to find a way to get Kakuzu despite his doton domu.

On the other side we've Sasori who as a puppeter is weak in close combat because of their fighting style, because they have to concentrate on controlling their puppets perfectly while fighting. Sasori even admitted that . Considering that, he would have trouble to handle Kakuzu's overwhelming arsenal

Kakuzu's arsenal

- Overwhelming fuuton attack

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- Fast lightning piercing attacks

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- Overwhelming Katon attack
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- He can even create combos to amplify their power scaling like with this katon+fuuton combo
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And when i see it, i seriously don't see how Sasori with his puppets or not could dodge those attacks especially since he has no speed feats and he not only has to dodge them but also to concentrate in manipulate his puppets. Kakuzu fortunately for him has the advantage to send his monsters everywhere on the battlefield and attack the enemy without controlling them, so it gives him a supplement when attacking if he wants

- Furthermore, the guy even has 5hearts, so for Sasori to defeat him, he has to kill him 5times. Just killing him once is already difficult for me to believe when you see my comparison, so definitely i can't see a scenario where Sasori can push Kakuzu to death 5times

So ultimately, those are my reasons why i believe Kakuzu is above Sasori. Only my opinion though. Hope you enjoyed reading :)
 

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Damn ........that was a long read and I agree....+ rep for your efforts
 

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I agree. I'd put Kakuzu in at least the Top 3 of Akatsuki.
 

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Good analysis, totally agree with you, the only thing I can think about for now which will cause some troubles to Kakuzu is gas poison.
 

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Here is my list (I do not put Nagato, I just use Pain.)

1. Tobi
2. Pain
3. Itachi
4&5. Kakazu / Kisame (no order, I think they tie)
6. Sasori
7. Deidara
8. Konan
9. Hidan
 

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Oro isn't part of the akatsuki gtfo
and how is konan or kisame stronger than kakuzu? lololol

Are you high? Oro was once a member of the Akatsuki.. so yes he IS a member of that group.

Konan and Kisame are stronger then Kakuzu through sheer overpowering.. lmao. Wonder why Kakuzu died before Konan and Kisame? lol.
 

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Damn ........that was a long read and I agree....+ rep for your efforts
Haha true, but really interesting. You can read. Thanks anyway :)

Very good indeed.
Thanks
I agree. I'd put Kakuzu in at least the Top 3 of Akatsuki.
Doubt he is top3, but sure he is strong :)

Agreed fully, Sasori is TOOO overrated.
Thanks bro. I agree with the Sasori thing :D

Good analysis, totally agree with you, the only thing I can think about for now which will cause some troubles to Kakuzu is gas poison.
Thanks. I forgot the gas you're right, but that thing is easily dodgeable or Kakuzu's fuuton attack could blast it away. It's only use for short range
 

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Known members of the Akatsuki:

Member
Status
Village of origin
Deidara Deceased Iwagakure
Hidan Incapacitated Yugakure
Kisame Hoshigaki Deceased Kirigakure
Kakuzu Deceased Takigakure
Konan Defected Amegakure
Orochimaru Defected Konohagakure
Nagato Deceased Amegakure
Sasori Deceased Sunagakure
Itachi Uchiha Deceased Konohagakure
Obito Uchiha Active Konohagakure
Yahiko Deceased Amegakure
Zetsu White Zetsu Deceased
Black Zetsu Incapacitated None


Thanks bro. I agree with the Sasori thing :D

yea brah, you better thank me and agree with me. You know you ain't got nothing on thisss brahhh xDD
 

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Are you high? Oro was once a member of the Akatsuki.. so yes he IS a member of that group.

Konan and Kisame are stronger then Kakuzu through sheer overpowering.. lmao. Wonder why Kakuzu died before Konan and Kisame? lol.

Kisame and Kakazu are both pretty strong. Konan is not stronger than Kakazu.
 

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Are you high? Oro was once a member of the Akatsuki.. so yes he IS a member of that group.

Konan and Kisame are stronger then Kakuzu through sheer overpowering.. lmao. Wonder why Kakuzu died before Konan and Kisame? lol.

WAS a member. If it was a list when He is a member I'd agree.
 

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Are you high? Oro was once a member of the Akatsuki.. so yes he IS a member of that group.

Konan and Kisame are stronger then Kakuzu through sheer overpowering.. lmao. Wonder why Kakuzu died before Konan and Kisame? lol.

he used to be a member of the akatuski but isnt anymore hes not even official anymore

and if i follow your flawed logic then sasori should be the weakest since he died first?
Kakuzu would rape Konan and Deidara anyday, Kisame vs Kakuzu is still debatable though.
 

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WAS a member. If it was a list when He is a member I'd agree.
We are talking about the AKATSUKI.. not a time period. Orochimaru is included in the Akatsuki. Its like saying Sasori isn't part of the Akatsuki nomore since hes dead...
he used to be a member of the akatuski but isnt anymore hes not even official anymore

and if i follow your flawed logic then sasori should be the weakest since he died first?
Kakuzu would rape Konan and Deidara anyday, Kisame vs Kakuzu is still debatable though.
And Kakuzu also USED to be a member of the Akatsuki.. now hes in hell. O-o. sooo whats your point here.

And yea.. Sasori and Deidara actually..but Deidara is stronger due to his bombs.

And how is my logic flawed? Its like saying Frieza is stronger then Cell... all shonen villains go from weakest to strongest..
 

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We are talking about the AKATSUKI.. not a time period. Orochimaru is included in the Akatsuki. Its like saying Sasori isn't part of the Akatsuki nomore since hes dead...

And Kakuzu also USED to be a member of the Akatsuki.. now hes in hell. O-o. sooo whats your point here.

And yea.. Sasori and Deidara actually..but Deidara is stronger due to his bombs.

And how is my logic flawed? Its like saying Frieza is stronger then Cell... all shonen villains go from weakest to strongest..

because Oro LEFT the akatsuki, kakuzu died while being in, are you high or what? :sy:


Kakuzu is the 4th strongest, go learn some facts, he has 5 lives, master almost every single elements and has 91 years of experience, he would stomp Konan and Deidara low diff.
 
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yea brah, you better thank me and agree with me. You know you ain't got nothing on thisss brahhh xDD
Lol i don't think so. I think i should change my mind instead xD

And yea.. Sasori and Deidara actually..but Deidara is stronger due to his bombs.

And how is my logic flawed? Its like saying Frieza is stronger then Cell... all shonen villains go from weakest to strongest..
Not necessarly, or it would mean Kisame > Itachi, Hidan > Sasori, etc
 
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