Why i believe Kakuzu is above Sasori

[Scooby Doo]

I agree

 

[Murasame]

because Oro LEFT the akatsuki, kakuzu died while being in, are you high or what? :sy:


Kakuzu is the 4th strongest, go learn some facts, he has 5 lives, master almost every single elements and has 91 years of experience, he would stomp Konan and Deidara low diff.

This^ Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[KingHashirama]

because Oro LEFT the akatsuki, kakuzu died while being in, are you high or what? :sy:


Kakuzu is the 4th strongest, go learn some facts, he has 5 lives, master almost every single elements and has 91 years of experience, he would stomp Konan and Deidara low diff.

..... you make no sense dude.. He left the Sanin team.... So hes not a Sanin nomore?

I gave you the top 10 people to be in the Akatsuki. =] And also, MANY people have came and gone out of the Akatsuki..

Lol i don't think so. I think i should change my mind instead xD


Not necessarly, or it would mean Kisame > Itachi, Hidan > Sasori, etc

Sasori can't do anything to Hidan ;x. lol.

At that point Kisame was superior to Itachi mate. When people put Itachi vs ________ they put "healthy" itachi.. or w.e but the Itachi that was killed before Kisame.. was inferior indeed.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

In Akatsuki lists i see people most of the time puting Sasori above Kakuzu and i clearly don't know why. Sasori on his own admission had difficulties to enter Akatsuki, was the first Akamen to die both at the begin of shippuden or in this war, the former being against Sakura, the latter against Kankuro. Kakuzu on the other side is a man who fought the God of Shinobi(Hashirama) without the takigakure forbidden technique and survived, who killed multiple of his Akatsuki partners when his boiling points were low and was killed while being put against multiple high level opponents both in middle shippuden and in this war

Reasons why i believe Kakuzu > Sasori

Kakuzu's doton domu makes him immune to every physical attacks by hype:

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Only weakness is

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Tanking feat:

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Sasori's arsenal is all made of physical attacks and unfortunately he has no raiton affinity. But what is even worse is that his attacks are weak in general

Sasori's arsenal:

- poisoned kunais

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- poisoned needles

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- bunch of puppet hands

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- Fire attack

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- A piercing rope

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Kunais, needles, some bunch of hands, a small fire attack, a piercing rope aren't enough to even scratch Kakuzu's defensive capacity when you see him capable to tank

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Furthermore when he uses his rope, he is really vulnerable

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So i think it's really not a move he should use in battle personally

- Sasori also has his puppet army

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But this army of puppet is manly composed on kunais or chakra blades, none of which i believe could scratch Kakuzu. Furthermore, they have shown no resilience feats easily defeated by Chiyo's puppets or Sakura punches

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The way Chiyo's puppets

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for example, Kakuzu's fuuton attack could destroy all of them in one blow

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The only advantage i can see Sasori using with them is to take advantage of the number to try to catch Kakuzu off-guard, but with kakuzu himself having 4hearts(besides his own one) as a support with much more destructive powers, i think he can easily leave them do the job done when himself could either dodge some of them if needed or use his doton domu to protect himself against such weak attacks

The only doubtful thing i have concerning Sasori's arsenal is his

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because of the magnetism ability. But unfortunately even this magnetism ability only works on

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, something that Kakuzu doesn't even use weapons when he fights(or rarely). Even if he used it, it doesn't change the main problem anyway, which is to find a way to get Kakuzu despite his doton domu.

On the other side we've Sasori who as a puppeter is weak in close combat because of their fighting style, because they have to concentrate on controlling their puppets perfectly while fighting. Sasori even admitted that

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. Considering that, he would have trouble to handle Kakuzu's overwhelming arsenal

Kakuzu's arsenal

- Overwhelming fuuton attack

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- Fast lightning piercing attacks

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- Overwhelming Katon attack

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- He can even create combos to amplify their power scaling like with this katon+fuuton combo

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And when i see it, i seriously don't see how Sasori with his puppets or not could dodge those attacks especially since he has no speed feats and he not only has to dodge them but also to concentrate in manipulate his puppets. Kakuzu fortunately for him has the advantage to send his monsters everywhere on the battlefield and attack the enemy without controlling them, so it gives him a supplement when attacking if he wants

- Furthermore, the guy even has 5hearts, so for Sasori to defeat him, he has to kill him 5times. Just killing him once is already difficult for me to believe when you see my comparison, so definitely i can't see a scenario where Sasori can push Kakuzu to death 5times

So ultimately, those are my reasons why i believe Kakuzu is above Sasori. Only my opinion though. Hope you enjoyed reading

It's common knowledge that Kakuzu is far superior to Sasori. Kakuzu is Kisame-Level atleast.

 

[KingHashirama]

It's common knowledge that Kakuzu is far superior to Sasori. Kakuzu is Kisame-Level atleast.

Kakuzu Tailed beast level? uh no dude.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Kakuzu Tailed beast level? uh no dude.

All of his hearts combined is easily Three-Four Tails Level.
Not in strength, because kisame easily outclasses him there, but if the two were to fight, Kakuzu would give him much more of a challenge then sasorshit

 

[KingHashirama]

All of his hearts combined is easily Three-Four Tails Level.
Not in strength, because kisame easily outclasses him there, but if the two were to fight, Kakuzu would give him much more of a challenge then sasorshit

Sasori is the weakest Akatsuki soo not gonna complain there. BUT, What is he gonna do under water? What does he have to match Kisame's skills? lol. Mate hes not a tailed beat level, even with his heart combined. Only thing his hearts do is make the batlle turn into a 5 vs 1 , from a 1 vs 1

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Sasori is the weakest Akatsuki soo not gonna complain there. BUT, What is he gonna do under water? What does he have to match Kisame's skills? lol. Mate hes not a tailed beat level, even with his heart combined. Only thing his hearts do is make the batlle turn into a 5 vs 1 , from a 1 vs 1

The weakest is hidan, doesn't even have any jutsu
Kakuzu's lightning heart can pierce rock, it can go through water clearly

And Kakuzu wouldn't beat Kisame, he would just give him a challenge.

 

[KingHashirama]

The weakest is hidan, doesn't even have any jutsu
Kakuzu's lightning heart can pierce rock, it can go through water clearly

And Kakuzu wouldn't beat Kisame, he would just give him a challenge.

o-o. But Kakuzu's Jutsu are too powerful lol..

It would be like Kakashi vs part 1 Sasuke without Curse Mark.

Also, Hidan can't be killed. O-o.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

o-o. But Kakuzu's Jutsu are too powerful lol..

It would be like Kakashi vs part 1 Sasuke without Curse Mark.

Also, Hidan can't be killed. O-o.

overestimating and exaggerating people once again. What does Kisame have that can actually kill Kakuzu? Seriously after he hardens his skin what damage can water do to him? Does he even breathe is the question the dude is made up of threads. Seriously aside from Great Water Shark Bullet and Giant Water Dome, im pretty sure that Kakuzu can match Kisame in water techs given how high of caliber his other attacks with other elements. Honestly just think about it, Kakuzu could actually beat Kisame more than you think but you are the king of overestimating people so...

 

[Owarij]

except you've literally only seen one of Sasori's 298 human puppets, and with third kazekage alone , Kakuzu has nothing that can defeat sasori

 

[Murasame]

..... you make no sense dude.. He left the Sanin team.... So hes not a Sanin nomore?

I gave you the top 10 people to be in the Akatsuki. =] And also, MANY people have came and gone out of the Akatsuki..

Except Sanin was a title given to him Akatsuki is an organization..

Edit: Who else left and joined? Why does it even matter? They've haven't been really mentioned in the story so they must not have much importance.

 

[Klaroline]

Good read.

 

[KingHashirama]

except you've literally only seen one of Sasori's 298 human puppets, and with third kazekage alone , Kakuzu has nothing that can defeat sasori

The same puppet that soloed by Chiyo and Sakura? if you say so.

Except Sanin was a title given to him Akatsuki is an organization..

Edit: Who else left and joined? Why does it even matter? They've haven't been really mentioned in the story so they must not have much importance.

Konan left. O-o. Reread the manga, she clearly says "I have no buisness with the Akatsuki"...

overestimating and exaggerating people once again. What does Kisame have that can actually kill Kakuzu? Seriously after he hardens his skin what damage can water do to him? Does he even breathe is the question the dude is made up of threads. Seriously aside from Great Water Shark Bullet and Giant Water Dome, im pretty sure that Kakuzu can match Kisame in water techs given how high of caliber his other attacks with other elements. Honestly just thinking about Kakuzu could actually beat Kisame more than you think but you are the king of overestimating people so...

-sigh-.. lets see he has a jutsu for which Guy has to got to 6-7 gates to counter it.. and thats not even at his full power.

What high tech water jutsus has Kisame shown? lol.

I'm the king of overestimating people? really? never knew.

 

[Untung]

Nice.........but how about hidan he can die..

 

[Itachi Hatake]

The same puppet that soloed by Chiyo and Sakura? if you say so.

Konan left. O-o. Reread the manga, she clearly says "I have no buisness with the Akatsuki"...

-sigh-.. lets see he has a jutsu for which Guy has to got to 6-7 gates to counter it.. and thats not even at his full power.

What high tech water jutsus has Kisame shown? lol.

I'm the king of overestimating people? really? never knew.

answer what can that do to Kakuzu harden skin? all I see the Giant Water Shark Bullet doing is breaking bones from the giant force of water being aimed at them, the impact and amount of water rendering them unable to move thus drowning them. We have never seen Kisame attack anyone as durable as Kakuzu with that attack. What can a great amount of water do his harden skin? The same harden skin that has only been pierced by Lightning and Wind? You have no legit answer for that.

And I said given how high of caliber his other elemental techniques we have seen, its safe to assume that if Kakashi didnt destroy his water heart, that he would have had strong water techs. Lets be real here, I assumed that since youre always commenting and giving your opinions in threads that you would know that Kakuzu had all elements in his arsenal. If you didnt know that you have just lost credibility when discussing this character

 

[Brother Numpsay]

except you've literally only seen one of Sasori's 298 human puppets, and with third kazekage alone , Kakuzu has nothing that can defeat sasori

Come on now...

Bogard you didn't mention counters for 3rd Kazekage

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

HELLLL NOO.

1. Obito
2. Nagato
3. Itachi
4. Orochimaru
5. Kisame
6. Konan
7. Deidara/Kakuzu.

Well if we include all members past and present then I'd agree for the most part except Kakuzu is tied with or above Kisame.


Konan's firepower derived from months of just collecting paper bombs and planting them undefined the lake....other than that she hasn't shown a single feat of large scale attacks that outweigh the large scale attacks that Kakuzu has used.

 

[KingHashirama]

Well if we include all members past and present then I'd agree for the most part except Kakuzu is tied with or above Kisame.


Konan's firepower derived from months of just collecting paper bombs and planting them undefined the lake....other than that she hasn't shown a single feat of large scale attacks that outweigh the large scale attacks that Kakuzu has used.

Its not even hinted its months........ Plus, I'm not doing a 1 vs 1....... otherwise Itachi Solos the Akatsuki with Tsukuyomi, I'm judging them by their power..


Sasori>Hidan>Kakuzu>Deidara>Konan>Itachi>Kisame>Nagato> Obito.

Your saying Kakuzu is on the same level as the guy who was said to be TAILED BEAST level? Only people on par with Kisame are Obito, Nagato, Itachi.


- Samehada
- Techniques that can take on Killer B
- Made Guy go 6/7 gate
- Skilled swordsmen
- High amounts of Chakra

answer what can that do to Kakuzu harden skin? all I see the Giant Water Shark Bullet doing is breaking bones from the giant force of water being aimed at them, the impact and amount of water rendering them unable to move thus drowning them. We have never seen Kisame attack anyone as durable as Kakuzu with that attack. What can a great amount of water do his harden skin? The same harden skin that has only been pierced by Lightning and Wind? You have no legit answer for that.

And I said given how high of caliber his other elemental techniques we have seen, its safe to assume that if Kakashi didnt destroy his water heart, that he would have had strong water techs. Lets be real here, I assumed that since youre always commenting and giving your opinions in threads that you would know that Kakuzu had all elements in his arsenal. If you didnt know that you have just lost credibility when discussing this character

1. it depends on the force.... The very technique he used against guy is powerful enough to take out Kakuzu.... Unless your saying Kakuzu has something to counter it. And how will Kakuzu breath in the Water dome? How is he going to fight against a master swordsmen.

2. When did I say he didn't have all the elements? You said high level moves.. which he did not show on the same powerlevel as Kisame. You have to Bullshitting me and putting Kakuzu on a tailed beast level. You lost credibility in the argument when you said Kisame has nothing on Kakuzu...

 

[blazekev90]

you just convinced me!!!!!!!!!! I never thought that before, good post