Why I believe EMS Sasuke is sure to defeat Itachi - Don't worry guys, no trolling ;)

Do you agree?

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AP2k

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Do you not realise this is a hypothetical fight? And don't comment with a pointless post like this, especially if you didn't read.

Lulz you of all people calling my posts pointless? Damn i feel so insulted over the internet. No, i didnt realize this was a hypothetical fight, i thought it was ****ing real.
 

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sasuke can't surprise itachi, even though they have the same moves and sasuke can spam it, itachi is way smarter than sasuke

similar to nagato vs itachi who is stronger nagato but he won't beat him in a fight

but madara can beat itachi because his moves are more violent AND he can compete intellectually

Since when was Madara known for his intelligence?
 

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sasuke can't surprise itachi, even though they have the same moves and sasuke can spam it, itachi is way smarter than sasuke

similar to nagato vs itachi who is stronger nagato but he won't beat him in a fight

but madara can beat itachi because his moves are more violent AND he can compete intellectually

I disagree with everything you said.

- Itachi is not 'way smarter', though he remains the more intelligent of the two.
- Nagato wins, clearly.
- Madara is probably dumber than Sasuke. When has Madara ever been hailed as a genius? I hope you're not making things up.
 

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1. I agree with the Genjutsu part. Itachi said, that a blood relative with the Sharingan could break Tsukuyomi; therefore Sasuke managed to break it. Above Itachi said, that you cannot cast a Genjutsu on someone who possesses the same eyes as you do.

2. I agree with the Amaterasu part partially, since Sasuke is able to control the flame with the Enton. But, the Enton most likely won't prevent the flame from arising directly before Sasukes body. And controlling the flames doesn't automatically mean that you can move them from your body. Also you have to consider, that those flames cause hellish pain and damage. But yet, Sasuke can repel the flames by only using Susanoos ribcage and control them afterwards.

3. I agree with the Susanoo part, apart from the speed of Itachis activation. When Itachi used Susanoo at the time you are using as an example, this was rather a demonstration by Kishimoto who was showing Susanoo with all its states - Therefore the activation was going by this rhythm. Because on the other side, Itachi was able to activate his Susanoo in order to repel Kirin, and when he fought Kabuto together with Sasuke, the activation of his Susano seemed to be synchronous to Sasukes. But yes, he most likely will be forced to use his Susanoo, because he wouldn't stand up to Sasukes force otherwise.

4. I agree with the arrow part partially. Itachi would indeed see the arrow coming, since the Sharingan gives its user a great insight in an every technique and can predict them. Whether he can avoid it is the other question, he will most likely be forced to use Susanoo to repel them. Same goes for Kirin and Amaterasu. But here, you shouldn't underestimate Itachis other capabilities, like forming hand seals and Kagebunshins with a speed where even the Sharingan cannot react to. So there is also a possibility, that Sasukes attacks could be wasted for a Bunshin. But Bunshins won't help Itachi constantly and he will indeed be forced to use Susanoo.

5. In a matter of versatile I have to disagree here. Apart from the Ninjutsu, Itachis skills are spread around all areas. His Taijutsu is on an excellent level and on a higher level than Sasukes, his intelligence and usage of weapons also exceed Sasukes and his usage of Genjutsus are better, too, since he is specialized on them. Unlike Sasuke, who rely mostly on his Ninjutsu, Itachi is using them always in order to catch his opponents already in the beginning of a very fight. But with the EMS, his Genjutsus are really comparable to Itachis, apart from Tsukuyomi of course. Here I'm referring to his Genjutsu where he is paralyzing his opponents, for example against Shee. But it seems that Sasukes Genjutsus are based on a paralyzing and hypnotizing effect, while Itachi can use pure illusions, too. So all in all Itachi is the better Genjutsu user, though they won't be of use against Sasuke.

But in the end, I agree with you, since Sasuke has the superior eyes and the greater stamina, especially since the EMS reduces the Chakra drainage of MS techniques to a minimum. The strongest techniques Itachi uses, Sasuke can use, too, and even more. Though his Genjutsu skills are not on Itachis level, Genjutsus are no worth talking about, unlike the Amaterasu Sasuke can control to his advantage.
 

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susano is chakra not a person

If the sword can seal a seal, then i'm pretty sure it can seal chakra. Kinda like the amber purifying pot sealing the eight tails, which is a chakra entity (like susanoo).
 

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1. I agree with the Genjutsu part. Itachi said, that a blood relative with the Sharingan could break Tsukuyomi; therefore Sasuke managed to break it. Above Itachi said, that you cannot cast a Genjutsu on someone who possesses the same eyes as you do.

2. I agree with the Amaterasu part partially, since Sasuke is able to control the flame with the Enton. But, the Enton most likely won't prevent the flame from arising directly before Sasukes body. And controlling the flames doesn't automatically mean that you can move them from your body. Also you have to consider, that those flames cause hellish pain and damage. But yet, Sasuke can repel the flames by only using Susanoos ribcage and control them afterwards.

3. I agree with the Susanoo part, apart from the speed of Itachis activation. When Itachi used Susanoo at the time you are using as an example, this was rather a demonstration by Kishimoto who was showing Susanoo with all its states - Therefore the activation was going by this rhythm. Because on the other side, Itachi was able to activate his Susanoo in order to repel Kirin, and when he fought Kabuto together with Sasuke, the activation of his Susano seemed to be synchronous to Sasukes. But yes, he most likely will be forced to use his Susanoo, because he wouldn't stand up to Sasukes force otherwise.

4. I agree with the arrow part partially. Itachi would indeed see the arrow coming, since the Sharingan gives its user a great insight in an every technique and can predict them. Whether he can avoid it is the other question, he will most likely be forced to use Susanoo to repel them. Same goes for Kirin and Amaterasu. But here, you shouldn't underestimate Itachis other capabilities, like forming hand seals and Kagebunshins with a speed where even the Sharingan cannot react to. So there is also a possibility, that Sasukes attacks could be wasted for a Bunshin. But Bunshins won't help Itachi constantly and he will indeed be forced to use Susanoo.

5. In a matter of versatile I have to disagree here. Apart from the Ninjutsu, Itachis skills are spread around all areas. His Taijutsu is on an excellent level and on a higher level than Sasukes, his intelligence and usage of weapons also exceed Sasukes and his usage of Genjutsus are better, too, since he is specialized on them. Unlike Sasuke, who rely mostly on his Ninjutsu, Itachi is using them always in order to catch his opponents already in the beginning of a very fight. But with the EMS, his Genjutsus are really comparable to Itachis, apart from Tsukuyomi of course. Here I'm referring to his Genjutsu where he is paralyzing his opponents, for example against Shee. But it seems that Sasukes Genjutsus are based on a paralyzing and hypnotizing effect, while Itachi can use pure illusions, too. So all in all Itachi is the better Genjutsu user, though they won't be of use against Sasuke.

But in the end, I agree with you, since Sasuke has the superior eyes and the greater stamina, especially since the EMS reduces the Chakra drainage of MS techniques to a minimum. The strongest techniques Itachi uses, Sasuke can use, too, and even more. Though his Genjutsu skills are not on Itachis level, Genjutsus are no worth talking about, unlike the Amaterasu Sasuke can control to his advantage.

:eek::blush:

Anyway, I don't think Itachi tanked Kirin with a full Susanoo the first time. Maybe a lower level or something, but i'm not sure if he was able to bring it up so quickly :shrug:
 

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Dude where u drop when u were a kid
 
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Well well... I just wanted to say this, Madarao4 I hate u b**ch you are just coming with bad threads man... ahh finally got to say that.
And don't think you are the smartest here
 

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Agreed. I always thought that Sasuke surpassed Itachi once he got the EMS, but I thought most would disagree. Looking at the poll, I was wrong. :cool:
 

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Well well... I just wanted to say this, Madarao4 I hate u b**ch you are just coming with bad threads man... ahh finally got to say that.
And don't think you are the smartest here

Ouch, that one hurt.

Ha.
 

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It's as obvious as the sun that Sasuke has surpassed Itachi.
 

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well we don't really fully know the extent of either of their power
However I would say we know more about Sasuke right now then Itachi
I would say Itachi beats Sasuke in everything except stamina(Itachi has below average chakra reserves) and amount of KNOWN jutsu they have.

In the end I think Sasuke would win because as has been stated genjutsu isn't gonna do much, so it comes down to outlasting Itachi and avoiding the Sword of Totsuka. Sasuke could just use his hawk to stay just out of reach until Itachi runs out of chakra.
 

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Sasuke will eventually surpass itachi and right now he is stronger than itachi but he cannot defeat itachi yet, he needs a little bit more of experience.
 

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Well I agree with all that you said but I personally would rank Itachi above Sasuke in a top 10 list because I believe Itachi's chances of defeating other powerful ninjas such as Minato, Muu are much higher than Sasuke's. Also even though Nagato would beat either Uchiha bro, Itachi's chances at beating Nagato are higher than Sasuke who almost has no chance.
 

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You described how MS Sasuke can beat Itachi; we've yet to see EMS exclusive stuff.
 

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You described how MS Sasuke can beat Itachi; we've yet to see EMS exclusive stuff.

True. But if MS Sasuke can beat him, EMS Sasuke should have it even easier seeing that he won't have most of the regular MS side effects.
 

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True. But if MS Sasuke can beat him, EMS Sasuke should have it even easier seeing that he won't have most of the regular MS side effects.

The only side effect I recall is blindness. However I don't recall this ever holding back Sasuke/Itachi.
 
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