Why I believe EMS Sasuke is sure to defeat Itachi - Don't worry guys, no trolling ;)

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TouchMyMangos

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So, I still see various people claim that Itachi is still superior to Sasuke, which I find baffling. I'm not saying Sasuke stomps or anything, but the likelihood of Itachi winning is very low. Let me explain;

Beginning with Tsukuyomi. Hebi Sasuke was able to overcome and subsequently break Itachi's Tsukuyomi; clearly, EMS Sasuke does this with ease. All other genjutsus become fodder in the face of the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. There's one of Itachi's major one hit jutsus rendered totally useless.

Amaterasu simply isn't hurting someone who can manipulate the black flames to such a high level as Sasuke can; he is effortlessly able to both put out the flames and .

Sasuke's Susanoo is leagues ahead of Itachi's interms of versatility. He's able to erect
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his almost instantly, while Itachi's, as we know, takes a while to go through the particular layers. Let's not be under any illusion here; Itachi will be forced to resort to Susanoo in order to stay alive against EMS Sasuke. None of Itachi's weapons are capable of piercing Sasuke's armoured Susanoo, Totsuka Blade included. Sasuke also has his own Susanoo sword and shield, both completely consisting of Amaterasu. Furthermore, MS Susanoos put great stress on the user's body and are not able to be spammed for long periods of time; EMS Susanoo's can be held with practically no pain or chakra drainage. Sasuke easily outlasts Itachi in a battle between Susanoos. A battle of attrition is possibly the worst possible situation you could place Itachi in, considering he suffers from below average chakra reserves and poor health. Sasuke was when he used his MS Susanoo at the Kage summit; this jutsu remains very taxing to Itachi.

With Sasuke's usual Enton spam, will become an inevitability and could be used to totally obliterate Itachi if his guard was to ever be lowered. Of course, Sasuke also has his which are seemingly unavoidable (which is why Sasuke at DSM Sasuke being able to successfully evade it), with Kakashi having to resort to using Kamui on it mid flight. It would seem that if Sasuke used this jutsu straight off the bat, Itachi wouldn't even notice it coming until it's half way towards killing him. I don't think I need to discuss its . I'm also pretty convinced that with the amount of Enton Sasuke is capable of spamming, Itachi's Susanoo may very well begin to melt due to the (Considering Mei's acid was able to do so). If Itachi is eventually forced to ditch Susanoo then the match is pretty much over, because he cannot dodge an arrow, Amaterasu or Kirin.

I can't believe i'm saying this, but Sasuke has genjutsu , if not greater than that possessed by his brother. He remains the clear victor interms of ninjutsu ( and Katon based techniques). Taijutsu remains a non-factor with Susanoo involved. Stamina is not even a debatable topic considering Sasuke stomps, hard. Sasuke also wins interms of versatility. Perhaps the only thing which Itachi still holds over Sasuke is intelligence, which I hardly look at considering Sasuke is a genius himself.

Of course, Itachi would still maintain a way of winning this match via Izanami, but considering Sasuke has full knowledge on this jutsu's inner workings and its requirements, there is a very low chance of him actually getting caught by it. Izanami requires shared physical sensation - what are the chances of this happening when Sasuke immediately spams his Susanoo (Which has been very typical of his recent fighting style)?

Anyhow, this is pretty much my take on things. Sasuke is the overwhelming favourite in my eyes, practically everything is in his favour. Itachi fans who still cling to the notion that Sasuke still couldn't beat him sound as bad as Minato fans who still believe he could beat Bijuu Mode Naruto.
 

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just gonna go with yes, because he is a main character and will be sure to surpass itachi eventually.
 

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Don't even mention the Sasuke vs. Itachi battle. The whole thing was rigged.
 

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Well, first off, you messed up, because you assumed that Itachi was going full force with his Tsukuyomi. He wanted to die, AND was ill, so that means that his Tsukuyomi was not at it's fullest. He could have let Sasuke break out easily... Also, he was trapped in there for a while, Itachi could have easily killed him while he was still in there. I don't see a valid counter for Itachi's Totsuka no Tsurgi OR Yata Mirror either... not to mention unparalleled Shurikenjutsu, and Genjutsu... Rebuke, and then I'll destroy your argument. :cool:
 

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I respectfully disagree. I hear what you're saying but the argument just isn't strong enough to convince me.
 

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Agree, always knew this. And i'm pretty sure Sasuke have som new moves he will awake soon enough, since EMS is stated to get a new power.
 

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So, I still see various people claim that Itachi is still superior to Sasuke, which I find baffling. I'm not saying Sasuke stomps or anything, but the likelihood of Itachi winning is very low. Let me explain;

Beginning with Tsukuyomi. Hebi Sasuke was able to overcome and subsequently break Itachi's Tsukuyomi; clearly, EMS Sasuke does this with ease. All other genjutsus become fodder in the face of the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. There's one of Itachi's major one hit jutsus rendered totally useless.

Amaterasu simply isn't hurting someone who can manipulate the black flames to such a high level as Sasuke can; he is effortlessly able to both put out the flames and . just playin

Sasuke's Susanoo is leagues ahead of Itachi's interms of versatility. He's able to erect
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his almost instantly, while Itachi's, as we know, takes a while to go through the particular layers. Let's not be under any illusion here; Itachi will be forced to resort to Susanoo in order to stay alive against EMS Sasuke. None of Itachi's weapons are capable of piercing Sasuke's armoured Susanoo, Totsuka Blade included. Sasuke also has his own Susanoo sword and shield, both completely consisting of Amaterasu. Furthermore, MS Susanoos put great stress on the user's body and are not able to be spammed for long periods of time; EMS Susanoo's can be held with practically no pain or chakra drainage. Sasuke easily outlasts Itachi in a battle between Susanoos. A battle of attrition is possibly the worst possible situation you could place Itachi in, considering he suffers from below average chakra reserves and poor health. Sasuke was when he used his MS Susanoo at the Kage summit; this jutsu remains very taxing to Itachi.

With Sasuke's usual Enton spam, will become an inevitability and could be used to totally obliterate Itachi if his guard was to ever be lowered. Of course, Sasuke also has his which are seemingly unavoidable (which is why Sasuke at DSM Sasuke being able to successfully evade it), with Kakashi having to resort to using Kamui on it mid flight. It would seem that if Sasuke used this jutsu straight off the bat, Itachi wouldn't even notice it coming until it's half way towards killing him. I don't think I need to discuss its . I'm also pretty convinced that with the amount of Enton Sasuke is capable of spamming, Itachi's Susanoo may very well begin to melt due to the (Considering Mei's acid was able to do so). If Itachi is eventually forced to ditch Susanoo then the match is pretty much over, because he cannot dodge an arrow, Amaterasu or Kirin.

I can't believe i'm saying this, but Sasuke has genjutsu , if not greater than that possessed by his brother. He remains the clear victor interms of ninjutsu ( and Katon based techniques). Taijutsu remains a non-factor with Susanoo involved. Stamina is not even a debatable topic considering Sasuke stomps, hard. Sasuke also wins interms of versatility. Perhaps the only thing which Itachi still holds over Sasuke is intelligence, which I hardly look at considering Sasuke is a genius himself.

Of course, Itachi would still maintain a way of winning this match via Izanami, but considering Sasuke has full knowledge on this jutsu's inner workings and its requirements, there is a very low chance of him actually getting caught by it. Izanami requires shared physical sensation - what are the chances of this happening when Sasuke immediately spams his Susanoo (Which has been very typical of his recent fighting style)?

Anyhow, this is pretty much my take on things. Sasuke is the overwhelming favourite in my eyes, practically everything is in his favour. Itachi fans who still cling to the notion that Sasuke still couldn't beat him sound as bad as Minato fans who still believe he could beat Bijuu Mode Naruto.

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Well, first off, you messed up, because you assumed that Itachi was going full force with his Tsukuyomi. He wanted to die, AND was ill, so that means that his Tsukuyomi was not at it's fullest. He could have let Sasuke break out easily... Also, he was trapped in there for a while, Itachi could have easily killed him while he was still in there. I don't see a valid counter for Itachi's Totsuka no Tsurgi OR Yata Mirror either... not to mention unparalleled Shurikenjutsu, and Genjutsu... Rebuke, and then I'll destroy your argument. :cool:

To suggest an MS user could hold and EMS user in Tsukuyomi is laughable.

What use is the Totsuka blade or Yata Mirror when Sasuke is in Susanoo, hmm?

I respectfully disagree. I hear what you're saying but the argument just isn't strong enough to convince me.

Everything is in Sasuke's favour.
 

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maybe one day. right now sasuke is still unsure of what his goal should be in life. with that being said hes still vulnerable to izanami....you dont really have to look any further into it than that atm....
 

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I agree mostly, but EMS Sasuke is still a mystery.

The only thing that keeps Itachi from Sasuke is his Susanoo. Itachi overwhelming intelligence in this match is also a factor. If Sasuke can keep Itachi's susanoo at bay no doubt the match will go to Sasuke. But can he? Idk.

Itachi still surpasses Sasukes in a sense of battle awareness as we seen even Sasuke fell for a crow clone during there fight with Kabuto. All and all I just don't know who would win if they fight.
 

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maybe one day. right now sasuke is still unsure of what his goal should be in life. with that being said hes still vulnerable to izanami....you dont really have to look any further into it than that atm....

Well I can tell you didn't read because I covered that already.
 

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To suggest an MS user could hold and EMS user in Tsukuyomi is laughable.

What use is the Totsuka blade or Yata Mirror when Sasuke is in Susanoo, hmm?

Are you an idiot? You're telling me the legendary blade of Totsuka can't get through his petty Susano'o? I'm not gonna respond, you're just trolling.
 

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On paper, you're right. But if this fight were to happen in the manga, itachi would still win. Not because of plot, but because manga fights aren't just jutsu after jutsu and all out fighting immediately to the death.
 

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Wow. Totsuka Blade can supposedly pierce a level four Susanoo :\
 

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yes sasuke would win now but the first fight shouldnt be mentioned ... i just dont understand how sasuke could stop izanami
 

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Are you an idiot? You're telling me the legendary blade of Totsuka can't get through his petty Susano'o? I'm not gonna respond, you're just trolling.
And Gaara's ultimate defense was so amazing, wasnt it? You overrate the sword too much, it isnt that great

Sasuke have surpassed Itachi, deal with it or cry
 

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Didn't read, but he was almost able to beat him without MS and PNJ, with EMS he can probably win.
 
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