Why doesnt Europe have ...
- Thread starter Ultimate Badass
- Start date
Shinobi Train
Active member
Awards
If someone's commited a crime worthy of the death penalty, then right after the sentence is over, just march them to the chopping block, don't torture them with prison any more. I'd rather just be executed anyway rather than spend an excessive amount of time in prison. Also, why not release the ones that don't deserve the death penalty and merely have them repay the person(s) they harmed. Unless you harmed someone, there's no reason for the police to get involved. Oh, and lets do away with lawyers, they just make money off of other people's suffering. If you want a truly just and fair trial, then you need two trustworthy witnesses and thats it.
Oh, that's right, justice is blind, I forgot. U_U
Oh, that's right, justice is blind, I forgot. U_U
You must be registered for see images
ikikouchiha9668
Active member
Awards
Shinobi Train
Active member
Awards
well you said that the convicted should just be dragged to the ''chopping block''Remember, that's only from your point of view; my point of view says otherwise.
you said if they repay they should be let go, so in your opinion who everything should get the death penalty? also if they would just repay they would still steal
if you dont harm someone there is no reason for the police to get involved? how about mass scale thefts (millions or even billions in some cases), should the victims just go looking for their money?
do away with lawyers? you need someone who is an expert in criminal law if you want a fair trial
justice is blind. and the picture of lady justice is lovely I must say. however without law our society would crumble, what we have might not be perfect but it is the best we have. but perhaps you should come up with a new justice system
The death penalty is only a problem if you are religious. Personally, I have no belief in an after life, so I think if someone has wronged, they should be punished, and death isn't a punishment. Living with the knowledge that one has ruined the lives of many is the worst punishment.
Question.
If I give you some anesthesia and chop your head off in a single, swift motion, how's that worse than a lethal injection?
Don't use the word 'civilized' or 'barbaric' in your explanation, please.
Governments all over the world control billions of people and have the right to send you to war, take your money and lock you up.
Why shouldn't the government have the right to, with the approval of the judicial power, take the life of its worst criminals?
Some nations retain the death penalty though they all but never use it, like many nations in the Caribbean. They retain it because it's a sign of their national sovereignty, and it's an obvious sign that they don't want the UN to dictate their laws.
Super, so you support mass murder being punishable by incarceration?
And the consensus between humans not to kill each other has never existed; there has always been conflicts and murderers.
The norms of our civilization? For some, yes, but the UN, for example, forces the abolition of Capital Punishment onto all its members. Like you said, our government represents our civilization as a whole, but with an act such as that the UN has boycotted the entire democratic system.
yes I do support incarceration over capital punishment for any crime except in the most extreme cases
yes there is a common agreement that killing is bad for most of us, there are exceptions ofc but if we didnt agree on the matter (at least the majority) we would just kill eachother over food in the woods
you mean species?
i like the theory in what you say, but considering that 'Europeans' have done some quite horrible things let's stay practical here. undoubtedly a change in the norms of any society involves a change in the mentality and dominant ideas and ideologies, but it is almost always dictated by practical and structural shifts in the political and economic level.
in more than one ways abolishing capital punishment in Europe has to do with the aspect of collective responsibility; to put it differently people prefer to admit that every society is a little bit guilty and therefore, a mass murderer being a product of that society might be the worst example, but he is not on his own.
'civilised' as this idea might sound, it has its origins in colonialist times. this is a challenging and problematic aspect as to the theoretical and legal infrastructure of what is europe and the individual european nations, as well as to the practical side of the application of capital punishment and its historical consistency.
agreed and agreed. @bold part: puh-lease the UN seems more like some auction house where their specialist sits in front of a map and starts taking bids for each country.
'War in X part of the world! Ladies and Gentlemen, please place your bids on behalf of your respective industries for what you wish to obtain. we will first proceed with military industries, then pharmaceuticals, etc'
Third Sage
Active member
Only God can judge the people, no one else, I'm sorry that in America people think they can decide the other people's destiny but I'm glad I'm living in the Europe and I hope things will get better in the future.
Last edited:
Actually what i meant by that is that in some cases i wouldnt care
If i were to judge i would Judge not to kill the one in question but i simply wouldnt care if Someone judged yes as opposed to Most Of the cases where i do care and voice My opposition
And what i meant by extreme cases are ppl like hitler, not many others come to mind