Why do people think that Sasuke had more power up than Naruto??

[V h o]

Let's see Naruto got:
Kurama
Sage mode
8 bijuu chakra
Hagoromo gift

Sasuke got:
Curse mark
Sharingan
Hagoromo's gift

Then sasuke lost curse mark, so Naruto got more.

Not including MS, EMS, KCM, BM, BSM, Kurama tails, etc. because it's just an added upgrade to what's there.

 

[Xlad]

It's not that hard considering base sharingan grants ppl the ability to see the moves ppl make right before they make them. If anything the fact that it's possible to fight a sharingan user in hand to hand combat is even more amazing imho.

Yeah, exactly this. I'm surprised of the fact that the precognition aspect can be countered.

Plus, I can't you seriously after saying Hashirama had Six Paths Senjutsu.

 

[Nagi]

It's not that hard considering base sharingan grants ppl the ability to see the moves ppl make right before they make them. If anything the fact that it's possible to fight a sharingan user in hand to hand combat is even more amazing imho.

Rock Lee showed that it is possible. Having a 2nd chakra source make genjutsu useless in a battle. Sharingan grants the user the ability to see the moves in slow motion allowing people like Itachi to cancel out the moves in time.

 

[Nagi]

Yeah, exactly this. I'm surprised of the fact that the precognition aspect can be countered.

Plus, I can't you seriously after saying Hashirama had Six Paths Senjutsu.

lol may not be six Paths senjutsu but somebody gave him something. He was too strong. Shit don't even make sense about him.

 

[Lord Tywin]

You guys misunderstand alot of things.

The onpy thing naruto trained for is SM and kcm.

Kyubi trusted him thus gave naruto his full power = bm
Realised he could use sm +bm = bsm

Died , hago powerup + minato's half of the kyubi = rsm


Enlighten me on his training program

He didn't train for rasenshuriken? Over the time skip? Throughout part 1?
Guess how Ashura got his powers? By training hard. That's the rule for getting Ashura's power. Hardwork gives you Ashura's power. However it's given that Naruto was already a reincarnation of Ashura, but would his powers blossomed if he sat on his ass and didn't train? Hell no.

Kurama saw how determined and hardworking Naruto is. That's why he agreed to cooperate with him, giving him the BM

Sasuke on the other hand was training from part 1 until he awakened MS. He was handed the EMS and rinnegan just because he was born with the right genes.

Dont get me wrong, I like Sasuke a lot, but he trained a fraction of the times Naruto did for his powers.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke was training for 3 years and creating his own jutsu on his own. Naruto was just eating ice cream with jiraiya for 3 years.

You just lost your credibility

 

[Nagi]

Confirmed you're retarded when you "guessed" Sasuke's Rinnegan use was below Nagatos

Sasuke captures all the Bijuu with ease

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Nagato struggles to capture a 8 tailed Naruto

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Nagato's basic use of the Mazo left him a cripple and has no unique Rinnegan ability like Madaras limbo and Sasukes Amenotejikara

:NO: I'm talking about fighting. Not catching pokemon! Nagato utilize the rinnegan more than Sasuke when battling.

 

[Nagi]

You just lost your credibility

how? naruto came back after 3 years and just show a larger rasengan. Smh all the training that naruto done in part 2 could've been done during those 3 years.

 

[Umari Senju]

... i can't believe people are still having this arguement

believe it :vincent:

OT: If you gain new abilities/loose weaknesses then it's a power up.

Naruto:

Sage mode
Kyubi chakra mode
Beast mode
Beast sage mode
Rikudo mode


Sasuke

Sharingan (yes it's a power up he didn't start with it he had to awaken it)
Curse mark
Mangenkyo Sharingan
Eternal mangenkyo Sharingan
Rinnegan

Hmmm they seem pretty even in the power up dept.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Quality & quantity. Sasuke was more lucky. Sure Naruto got half Kurama at birth but how much trouble did that cause him? (Chakra control disrupted etc.)

 

[Retsu]

Rock Lee showed that is possible. Having a 2nd chakra source make genjutsu useless in a battle. Sharingan grants the user the ability to see the moves in slow motion allowing people like Itachi to cancel out the moves in time.

Even so my point still stands.

 

[Lord Tywin]

how? naruto came back after 3 years and just show a larger rasengan. Smh all the training that naruto done in part 2 could've been done during those 3 years.

You failed to realize that Naruto sucked at the basics
he was more competent with clones
could resist genjutsu a bit
had better chakra control

jiraiya had to teach those to Naruto first, inline Sasuke who was already adapt in basics and jumped in straight to techniques

 

[Umari Senju]

how? naruto came back after 3 years and just show a larger rasengan. Smh all the training that naruto done in part 2 could've been done during those 3 years.

Uhm....Sasuke didn't learn much more either.

Just a variation of Chidori, Chidori Nagashi and Kirin. Everything else he acquired through Part II same as Naruto.

 

[Nagi]

You failed to realize that Naruto sucked at the basics
he was more competent with clones
could resist genjutsu a bit
had better chakra control

jiraiya had to teach those to Naruto first, inline Sasuke who was already adapt in basics and jumped in straight to techniques

That shit do not take 3 years to learn the basic. Naruto's chakra control was point the moment he learned the rasengan. Naruto had gotten enough experience in part 1.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Having the Nine-Tails at birth isn't necessarily not being given a power up, but for the better part of his life it was actually a huge risk considering if it broke free, Naruto essentially didn't exist anymore. It wasn't until the last part of the series that Naruto actually gained Kurama's cooperation and was able to use it freely.

Sage Mode wasn't given to him, he trained for it if I remember correctly. So I would wonder, how exactly is it a power up? He risked turning into a toad. Bijuu Sage Mode falls here as well, as he can't use it without using a skill that he had to train for.

At the worst, Sasuke had to worry about being blind, which isn't QUITE as bad as becoming a stone toad or losing yourself to a tailed beast considering the only thing he had to do was transplant his brothers eyes....

Oh wait, Obito saved him there. Did the transplant himself. No worries guys! While Minato gave his son an extremely dangerous power up that if Naruto failed to control, he died, Sasuke would just be the Stevie Wonder of the Naruto world.

 

[Amaterasu]

Naruto actually earned those powers. He didn't win the genetic lottery ticket

^This

 

[Nagi]

Uhm....Sasuke didn't learn much more either.

Just a variation of Chidori, Chidori Nagashi and Kirin. Everything else he acquired through Part II same as Naruto.

That's where you wrong. His tactician skills improved. He study all type of shit. He was able to put together a team and lead. He put in a lot works during those 3 years.

 

[Umari Senju]

That shit do not take 3 years to learn the basic. Naruto's chakra control was point the moment he learned the rasengan. Naruto had gotten enough experience in part 1.

For your average Shinobi no, But Naruto is known for being a bit slow in the academics. Remember it took him 3 attempts just to gain entry into the Ninja Academy, Naruto didn't learn chakra control from his rasengan training he learned that from Kakashi.

Naruto learn chakra manipulation through his training with rasengan.

That's where you wrong. His tactician skills improved. He study all type of shit. He was able to put together a team and lead. He put in a lot works during those 3 years.

lel weren't we talking about power ups? But I will play your game :snick:

IF that's the case then Naruto too learned about how to break genjutsu, improved taijutsu, improved shadow clone usage as noted by Kakashi, Tactical awareness, etc through the time skip.

 

[Lord Tywin]

That shit do not take 3 years to learn the basic. Naruto's chakra control was point the moment he learned the rasengan. Naruto had gotten enough experience in part 1.

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[Retsu]

Yeah, exactly this. I'm surprised of the fact that the precognition aspect can be countered.

Plus, I can't you seriously after saying Hashirama had Six Paths Senjutsu.

Precisely, having a 3 tomoe sharingan is like 2 or 3 power ups in 1 package, precognition, copying jutsu, not to mention you're pretty much s rank in genjutsu. Sasuke had way more given to him with that one power up where as Naruto's main power up was a hindrance and could have actually killed him.