Why do member compare dojutsu to a Jin?

[Jiren]

Read the manga, Naruto's control over Kurama's chakra was because he had Kushina's blood, Naruto being able to use the chakra of all 9 bijuu was because of Ashura's genes, Madara requiring Hashi's cells to become JuubiJin was because of Ashura's genes.

Before Killer B all the shinobi chosen to be hosts died because hey couldn't contain the power of 8tails, in part 1 Gaara's body was being consumed by Shukaku which led to his insomnia, in contrast Naruto contained the strongest bijuu with no side effects since he was a baby.

Finally, Kakashi mentioned stamina being a requirement to control large amounts of chakra and as we know Uzumaki have the largest stamina, you can even see Sasuke's disbelief with the way Naruto is using bijuu chakra


So tell me, how does being a Jinchuuriki not rely on the genes for a strong body ?

Naruto got control over kurama chakra cause he had minatos and kushinas seals helping him. Then once he had kurama to help him he can do al those feats in war because of his blood line like connecting kurama to others which isn't really a big deal since kurama could do that when he replenished Kakashi just by having him stand In aura

 

[Godara Uchiha]

Read the manga, Naruto's control over Kurama's chakra was because he had Kushina's blood, Naruto being able to use the chakra of all 9 bijuu was because of Ashura's genes, Madara requiring Hashi's cells to become JuubiJin was because of Ashura's genes.

Before Killer B all the shinobi chosen to be hosts died because hey couldn't contain the power of 8tails, in part 1 Gaara's body was being consumed by Shukaku which led to his insomnia, in contrast Naruto contained the strongest bijuu with no side effects since he was a baby.

Finally, Kakashi mentioned stamina being a requirement to control large amounts of chakra and as we know Uzumaki have the largest stamina, you can even see Sasuke's disbelief with the way Naruto is using bijuu chakra


So tell me, how does being a Jinchuuriki not rely on the genes for a strong body ?

All that you said is true...they had the genes to be host of bijuu and master them but they didn't have the bijuu at birth...the point you miss is they needed a outside source for their genes to be put to use effectively and that outside source is a bijuu

 

[Holy God]

Read the manga, Naruto's control over Kurama's chakra was because he had Kushina's blood, Naruto being able to use the chakra of all 9 bijuu was because of Ashura's genes, Madara requiring Hashi's cells to become JuubiJin was because of Ashura's genes.

Before Killer B all the shinobi chosen to be hosts died because hey couldn't contain the power of 8tails, in part 1 Gaara's body was being consumed by Shukaku which led to his insomnia, in contrast Naruto contained the strongest bijuu with no side effects since he was a baby.

Finally, Kakashi mentioned stamina being a requirement to control large amounts of chakra and as we know Uzumaki have the largest stamina, you can even see Sasuke's disbelief with the way Naruto is using bijuu chakra


So tell me, how does being a Jinchuuriki not rely on the genes for a strong body ?

That logic doesn't work. Sure, Naruto has the genetics to be able to host Kurama, but he still wasn't born with the entity. That's the same as saying the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan doesn't rely on anyone simply because the siblings have the genetics to upgrade to that form, or that Madara using Hashirama's DNA didn't rely on anyone else simply because his genetics allowed him the ability to transplant.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Naruto got control over kurama chakra cause he had minatos and kushinas seals helping him. Then once he had kurama to help him he can do al those feats in war because of his blood line like connecting kurama to others which isn't really a big deal since kurama could do that when he replenished Kakashi just by having him stand In aura

this comment makes not 1 lick of sense

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

This is very true, it is about eyes vs body but also cooperation vs solo...


Still take away naruto's outside source and sasuke's outside source and sasuke has ms and naruto has sm and I bet my money on it if they were to fight as ms vs Sm sasuke wins low diff...


Naruto would have sensing reflexes strength frog summons and frog kata but sasuke would have genjutsu Susano enton speed agility and tactical skills...genjutsu would wreck sm naruto l, unlike dsm kabuto no other sm user ever closed there eyes in battle while fighting only, so don't give me that naruto would fight with his eyes close argument because he simply never has done so so he never would do so...

Enton arrows and Susano arrows would obliterate naruto, his frs would he blocked by Susano or sasuke just amaterasu naruto's ass while hes about to use frs since amaterasu happens faster than naruto can use a clone to rotate the chakra then throw it...

then sasuke would end up blind

 

[Michael]

Who were all these people that try to be kurama Jin and died

Obviously I was referring to jinchuriki in general hence the "let alone kurama". :sdo:

 

[SenseiSama]

That logic doesn't work. Sure, Naruto has the genetics to be able to host Kurama, but he still wasn't born with the entity. That's the same as saying the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan doesn't rely on anyone simply because the siblings have the genetics to upgrade to that form, or that Madara using Hashirama's DNA didn't rely on anyone else simply because his genetics allowed him the ability to transplant.

That logic works because Ashura had the Juubi's chakra and Sage's body therefore making his descendants the most compatible with bijuus. There's a reason no other jinchuuriki has been able to reach Naruto's level.

 

[super michael]

I want to say MS is kinda a useless power, it maybe powerful but at the cost of losing his/her eyes permanent.

MS is like a last resort power to be used in a emergency.

 

[Jiren]

this comment makes not 1 lick of sense

It did if you read manga Naruto used Kushina and Minato sealed inside him to gain kurama chakra over the years and then again when he went to go tame him.

 

[Holy God]

That logic works because Ashura had the Juubi's chakra and Sage's body therefore making his descendants the most compatible with bijuus. There's a reason no other jinchuuriki has been able to reach Naruto's level.

It doesn't work. Just because your genetics allow you to potentially use an outside source does not make it any less of an outside source. Madara's DNA allows him to use his hands to transplant Hashirama's DNA but it's still an outside source.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

It did if you read manga Naruto used Kushina and Minato sealed inside him to gain kurama chakra over the years and then again when he went to go tame him.

how can naruto gain something he already had?...also naruto did not need kushina and minato to do a damn thing...all he needed was kurama's co-op

 

[Jiren]

how can naruto gain something he already had?...also naruto did not need kushina and minato to do a damn thing...all he needed was kurama's co-op

He needed Minato to make the seal to harness kurama chakra for all those years and save him on daily basis. Also needed Kushina to pin down kurama when he was fighting him.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

He needed Minato to make the seal to harness kurama chakra for all those years and save him on daily basis. Also needed Kushina to pin down kurama when he was fighting him.

naruto did not NNED minato to do a damn thing...that was minato's CHOICE...naruto did not NEED minato to do it...also it was naruto choice to try and steal kurama's chakra...what chapter 571 showed us was that all naruto NEEDED was kurama's co-op...which means naruto did not NEED kushina to do a damn thing.

do you even understand how to interpret the english language?

 

[Jiren]

naruto did not NNED minato to do a damn thing...that was minato's CHOICE...naruto did not NEED minato to do it...also it was naruto choice to try and steal kurama's chakra...what chapter 571 showed us was that all naruto NEEDED was kurama's co-op...which means naruto did not NEED kushina to do a damn thing.

do you even understand how to interpret the english language?

The only reason Naruto made it that far with kurama is because of Minato, Kushina, Jiraya and bee. Do you even read the manga? Naruto ain't seal kurama into himself now did he?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

The only reason Naruto made it that far with kurama is because of Minato, Kushina, Jiraya and bee. Do you even read the manga? Naruto ain't seal kurama into himself now did he?

the only reason naruto made it this far with kurama is because of naruto.

what chapter 571 taught us was that all naruto needed to do was acknowledge kurama as a person and he gains the full power of the nine tails...lololololololol

also tailed beast mode >>>>>> kurama chakra mode....so naruto did more in 1 chapter (chapter 571) than he did with all of minato kushina jiraiya and killer b's "training" with just mere co-op....lololololololol

 

[Jiren]

the only reason naruto made it this far with kurama is because of naruto.

what chapter 571 taught us was that all naruto needed to do was acknowledge kurama as a person and he gains the full power of the nine tails...lololololololol

also tailed beast mode >>>>>> kurama chakra mode....so naruto did more in 1 chapter (chapter 571) than he did with all of minato kushina jiraiya and killer b's "training" with just mere co-op....lololololololol

It still took him years to learn that information and that's only because he had bee, Minato, Kushina and Jiraya to help him contain and control kurama. Kurama would have killed Naruto if it weren't for them manga facts fapboy

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

It still took him years to learn that information and that's only because he had bee, Minato, Kushina and Jiraya to help him contain and control kurama. Kurama would have killed Naruto if it weren't for them manga facts fapboy

stopped reading @ bold...naruto did not need to "learn" how to cooperate with others...that is the very basis of his character...guess you pretty much read up to the pain arc then skipped to chapter 700 am I right?...ps how am I a fapboy you fapboy?...lololololol

 

[super michael]

stopped reading @ bold...naruto did not need to "learn" how to cooperate with others...that is the very basis of his character...guess you pretty much read up to the pain arc then skipped to chapter 700 am I right?...ps how am I a fapboy you fapboy?...lololololol

I think I understand what Dubious is trying to say, but I say what I think:

1st Naruto needed help to figure out he had darkness
2nd Naruto had help from Bee and Kushina when battling Kurama

There is nothing wrong with receiving help to best honest.

Naruto figured out how to use Kurama chakra thanks to Jiraiya explaining about Kurama chakra and throwing Naruto of a cliff.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I think I understand what Dubious is trying to say, but I say what I think:

1st Naruto needed help to figure out he had darkness
2nd Naruto had help from Bee and Kushina when battling Kurama

There is nothing wrong with receiving help to best honest.

Naruto figured out how to use Kurama chakra thanks to Jiraiya explaining about Kurama chakra and throwing Naruto of a cliff.

and MY point was all of that amounted to nothing in chapter 571 when all naruto had to do was acknowledge kurama and he gains his 3rd most powerful form in an instant

 

[super michael]

and MY point was all of that amounted to nothing in chapter 571 when all naruto had to do was acknowledge kurama and he gains his 3rd most powerful form in an instant

I agree with you there, in part 1 Naruto saw Kurama nothing more than a chakra supply and early part 2. Once Naruto fought Kurama and took his chakra then he saw Kurama as a individual.

Naruto gained BM thanks to viewing Bijuu as individual.