Why do member compare dojutsu to a Jin?

[super michael]

I really don't understand why members compares a Uchiha and a Hyuga who unlocks their dojutsu to someone who is a Jinchuuriki.

Take Neji and Sasuke an example, they had no mods, seal, enhancement done to get their dojutsu.

Shikamaru was born with high IQ and is smart while being lazy, yet for him is ok.

Neji and Sasuke got the genetic to unlock their dojutsu, while Shikamaru got his genetic to have high IQ.

Someone who becomes a Jin requires an outside entity to power up their body, basically they rely on 2 power source.

The only dojutsu which is an outside source is EMS and maybe Rinnengan.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Because the manga emphasis on eye vs body.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Sharingan is a genetic feature. Just like how Naruto has abnormal amounts of Chakra from being an Uzumaki.

Being a Junchuriki is completely different, because you have the help of a Biju to assist you.

 

[Michael]

Well hyuga power are natural as is uchiha up until MS. EMS and Rinnegan require another power source to awaken.

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[SenseiSama]

Because the manga emphasis on eye vs body.

This. Ashura genes allow Uzumaki to use bijuu chakra at the highest level while Uchiha genes allow them to use bijuu as summons at the highest level. It's eye vs body.

 

[Michael]

Because the manga emphasis on eye vs body.

Sharingan is a genetic feature. Just like how Naruto has abnormal amounts of Chakra from being an Uzumaki.

Exactly, not anyone can be jinchuriki let alone Kurama's. Many have tried and many have died, Naruto only succeeded thanks to his uzumaki lineage and kushina's powerful chakra/blood. Also he's ashura incarnate.

 

[super michael]

Mangekyou Sharing isn't really an outside source power, but in the long run kinda useless since it go blind permanent.

As for EMS that is an outside source power, since it requires someone else eye.

Rinnengan for Sasuke and Madara they are outside source power, but for Hagoromo not really.

 

[Styles]

True it should be EMS/Rinnegan = Tenseigan = bijuu's. As outside source.

Sharingan = Byakugan = Naruto's life force should be it's theirs and they was born with it.

 

[SenseiSama]

Sharingan is a genetic feature. Just like how Naruto has abnormal amounts of Chakra from being an Uzumaki.

Being a Junchuriki is completely different, because you have the help of a Biju to assist you.

Being a Jinchuuriki is still a genetic feature because a strong body along with special chakra is required to host a bijuu and use it's power with 0 side effects.

 

[super michael]

Exactly, not anyone can be jinchuriki let alone Kurama's. Many have tried and many have died, Naruto only succeeded thanks to his uzumaki lineage and kushina's powerful chakra/blood. Also he's ashura incarnate.

Just because Uzumakis can become Jinchuuriki doesn't mean it isn't an outside source power, if it isn't an outside power source then EMS wouldn't be since Uchiha brains has genetic to evolve their eyes.

EMS and Jin are outside source power, while MS, Sharingan and Byakugan are not outside source power and natural.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Being a Jinchuuriki is still a genetic feature because a strong body along with special chakra is required to host a bijuu and use it's power with 0 side effects.

I shouldn't have to tell you this, but being a Junchuriki is not a Genetic Feature. Having the Life Force to support a Biju is a Genetic Feature.

You still must be gifted a Biju.

 

[take it easy]

Because Naruto has genes to be perfect jinchuuriki ?

Funny that you compare Sharingan and bijuus because they came from same source. Use bijuu power is naturally for them.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Just because Uzumakis can become Jinchuuriki doesn't mean it isn't an outside source power, if it isn't an outside power source then EMS wouldn't be since Uchiha brains has genetic to evolve their eyes.

EMS and Jin are outside source power, while MS, Sharingan and Byakugan are not outside source power and natural.

I think we all know this. Some of us however are just trolls in denial.

 

[super michael]

Because Naruto has genes to be perfect jinchuuriki ?

Funny that you compare Sharingan and bijuus because they came from same source. Use bijuu power is naturally for them.

Whether Naruto has genetic to become a Jin and Sasuke got genetic to get EMS isn't the issue, they are getting other beings part to get their power, which isn't part of their natural body.

Shikamaru has a unnatural high IQ yet he isn't compared to a Jin.

Sasuke and Neji get their Dojutsu naturally without modifications, other parts, etc.

 

[take it easy]

Whether Naruto has genetic to become a Jin and Sasuke got genetic to get EMS isn't the issue, they are getting other beings part to get their power, which isn't part of their natural body.

Shikamaru has a unnatural high IQ yet he isn't compared to a Jin.

Sasuke and Neji get their Dojutsu naturally without modifications, other parts, etc.

No. Only Neji was born naturally with doujutsu. Sasuke like Naruto got the Sharingan due to special circumstances.

 

[Jiren]

People Jin is body power when it's another being assisting them. Another person, another entity they use help. The theme of manga is cooperation vs solo. Not just eyes vs body

 

[Jiren]

Exactly, not anyone can be jinchuriki let alone Kurama's. Many have tried and many have died, Naruto only succeeded thanks to his uzumaki lineage and kushina's powerful chakra/blood. Also he's ashura incarnate.

Who were all these people that try to be kurama Jin and died

 

[SenseiSama]

I shouldn't have to tell you this, but being a Junchuriki is not a Genetic Feature. Having the Life Force to support a Biju is a Genetic Feature.

You still must be gifted a Biju.

Read the manga, Naruto's control over Kurama's chakra was because he had Kushina's blood, Naruto being able to use the chakra of all 9 bijuu was because of Ashura's genes, Madara requiring Hashi's cells to become JuubiJin was because of Ashura's genes.

Before Killer B all the shinobi chosen to be hosts died because hey couldn't contain the power of 8tails, in part 1 Gaara's body was being consumed by Shukaku which led to his insomnia, in contrast Naruto contained the strongest bijuu with no side effects since he was a baby.

Finally, Kakashi mentioned stamina being a requirement to control large amounts of chakra and as we know Uzumaki have the largest stamina, you can even see Sasuke's disbelief with the way Naruto is using bijuu chakra


So tell me, how does being a Jinchuuriki not rely on the genes for a strong body ?

 

[super michael]

No. Only Neji was born naturally with doujutsu. Sasuke like Naruto got the Sharingan due to special circumstances.

The only thing Sasuke needs to feel is high emotions, either hatred like how Sasuke unlocked it after Itachi killed the clan or love when Sarada was about to meet Sasuke his dad.

Sasuke did no modifying his body, stealing body part, stealing entity, etc. Sasuke was born with a special brain to unlock Sharingan, just like Shikamaru was born with high IQ.

Naruto was born with high vitality and chakra which is natural, sealing a bijuu isn't and is another source power.

 

[Godara Uchiha]

People Jin is body power when it's another being assisting them. Another person, another entity they use help. The theme of manga is cooperation vs solo. Not just eyes vs body

This is very true, it is about eyes vs body but also cooperation vs solo...


Still take away naruto's outside source and sasuke's outside source and sasuke has ms and naruto has sm and I bet my money on it if they were to fight as ms vs Sm sasuke wins low diff...


Naruto would have sensing reflexes strength frog summons and frog kata but sasuke would have genjutsu Susano enton speed agility and tactical skills...genjutsu would wreck sm naruto l, unlike dsm kabuto no other sm user ever closed there eyes in battle while fighting only, so don't give me that naruto would fight with his eyes close argument because he simply never has done so so he never would do so...

Enton arrows and Susano arrows would obliterate naruto, his frs would he blocked by Susano or sasuke just amaterasu naruto's ass while hes about to use frs since amaterasu happens faster than naruto can use a clone to rotate the chakra then throw it...