Why do anti-ending and anti-NaruHina fans call Naruto a scumbag?

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People are just pissed off that their pairings didn't work out. Not everything works out how you want, people. I didn't want Jiraiya to die, but he did. I wanted Kakashi to have children, but he didn't. Get over it!

Naruto isn't a scumbag. The worst thing that could be said about him at this point is that he's a bad father, but that's just because he can't find a good work-life balance (which isn't his fault since Hokage isn't exactly a 9-5 job).
 

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Please dont compare Sakura and Hinata. All what he did in entire series is screams Sasuke-kuun without any actual help.

Same with Hinata though. Knows no other word aside from "Naruto-kun". BTW, Sakura was actually useful on multiple occasions unlike Hinata.
 

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Fixed. :p

But in all honestly, sure, NaruHina could have done with a little more development. All of the character pairings could have. All of them. Naruto's not a love story, so I'm not surprised those elements went largely ignored.

But Hinata's not that plain. Her admiration for Naruto wasn't superficial. She internalized those feelings and used them to better herself. Above that, she was fully prepared to die to save him, and was eventually able to put herself in his place and encourage him in his time of need right after Neji's death.

I'm sure that my opinions and feelings are wrong in some way or another, but it's fine. Wish I could say more or stay to chat/reply further, but I've got somewhere to be. >.<

Admiration =/= love. Her admiration makes sense but how does that translate into love? Who blushes in front of someone they admire? Who stalks someone they admire? Or do you admit Hinata's love was baseless? Or that her admiration was only an excuse for loving Naruto? Because if you say it's because of admiration, I've got no reason to believe you. She didn't even stay with Naruto so long and worked with him or had a family relationship with Naruto like Sakura did with Sasuke for her love to make sense. Admit it, NH is just as bland and crappy as every other pairing.

@bold I agree completely.

B-but unlike Sakura she really helped Naruto emotionaly when he needed such type of help.

And unlike Hinata, Sakura never let go of Sasuke even when he tried to kill and always tried to save him from darkness even when he sank so low as to intend to kill her. She always believed that he would get rid of hatred and always tried for it.
 

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You dont understand which type of help i mean.

I know what kind of help you mean. It's the emotional one, isn't it? In relevance to her circumstances, Sakura did all that was possible to help Sasuke. She kept chasing after him, believing that he would get rid of hatred and return and always tried to bring him back. She never hated Sasuke in return for all the hate he gave her. Even when Sasuke tried to kill her, she never in return tried to kill him and always wished for his betterment.
 

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Did Naruto even defeated any path using Kurama chakra ? Nope.

I'm speaking as on how hinata evoked naruto's rage and Kurama gave him strength like how Naruto and Sakura made Sasuke snap out of his coward phase.

Anyway you said Sakura never gave emotional support which is false because she helped Sasuke twice in that regard in the forest of death.
 
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I know what kind of help you mean. It's the emotional one, isn't it? In relevance to her circumstances, Sakura did all that was possible to help Sasuke. She kept chasing after him, believing that he would get rid of hatred and return and always tried to bring him back. She never hated Sasuke in return for all the hate he gave her. Even when Sasuke tried to kill her, she never in return tried to kill him and always wished for his betterment.

Youre just showed that Sakura doesnt have self respect. All her "help" had zero effect on Sasuke and his decisions.
 

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Youre just showed that Sakura doesnt have self respect. All her "help" had zero effect on Sasuke and his decisions.

So not leaving someone you love under any circumstances = no self respect. Okay, then we're done. No point arguing further with you who doesn't have the faintest idea what true love means. You can have your own rules of relationships...

@bold Doesn't matter. Efforts are important, not the results. But your principles of relationship are just very unique. You only care about someone if they provide result, efforts are the least important in your sight.
 

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because naruto told sakura he hated people who lie to themselves when she said she loved him and didn't mean it, but admitted he only 'liked/loved' sakura to try and get her attention and 1 up sasuke. so he was lying to himself about his feelings for sakura the whole time

which kinda makes him a hypocrite lol
 

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because naruto told sakura he hated people who lie to themselves when she said she loved him and didn't mean it, but admitted he only 'liked/loved' sakura to try and get her attention and 1 up sasuke. so he was lying to himself about his feelings for sakura the whole time

which kinda makes him a hypocrite lol

If you reread Chapter 3, you see that what Naruto wants is Sakura to acknowledge him the same way she acknowledges Sasuke. He never says he wants intimacy from her. Back in Part 1, everyone liked Sasuke because of his looks and because he was good a ninjutsu. 2 things that Naruto was lacking in comparison to his classmates. But Naruto told Sasuke on the rooftop, that he never saw himself as being beneath anyone. He just wanted people to validate him and his efforts. It's why he wanted to become Hokage.
 

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If you reread Chapter 3, you see that what Naruto wants is Sakura to acknowledge him the same way she acknowledges Sasuke. He never says he wants intimacy from her. Back in Part 1, everyone liked Sasuke because of his looks and because he was good a ninjutsu. 2 things that Naruto was lacking in comparison to his classmates. But Naruto told Sasuke on the rooftop, that he never saw himself as being beneath anyone. He just wanted people to validate him and his efforts. It's why he wanted to become Hokage.
naruto liked sakura for a long ass time lol and anyone who denies that is dumb
he obvs wanted her intimately, wanting kisses and all that and calling her his girlfriend
 

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Admiration =/= love. Her admiration makes sense but how does that translate into love? Who blushes in front of someone they admire? Who stalks someone they admire? Or do you admit Hinata's love was baseless? Or that her admiration was only an excuse for loving Naruto? Because if you say it's because of admiration, I've got no reason to believe you. She didn't even stay with Naruto so long and worked with him or had a family relationship with Naruto like Sakura did with Sasuke for her love to make sense. Admit it, NH is just as bland and crappy as every other pairing.

I feel like saying Hinata's a stalker is a bit much. She watched him train, on occasion. She's never been presented in circumstances that would be considered creepy, or that Naruto would take offense to, if he happened to catch her watching him. She's never really been shown following him around when he's doing other stuff, or harassing him, and she doesn't show him obscene amounts of attention. Hinata doesn't show many stalkerish tendencies, at least not from what I remember of the manga.

And I'd say her admiration naturally blossomed into love. It certainly wasn't baseless. She had an important personal experience with him when he, a failure who was hated by pretty much everyone else, fearlessly came to her defense stood up to bullies who were clearly more than a match for him. That changed her life and her perspective. And despite her anxious demeanor, she was close to him, able to see him, hear him, and watch him overcome the odds and get stronger. I can certainly see that blossoming into love, even if it was neglected in the series at large.

Tell me what you mean when you say that she didn't "stay with Naruto so long" or "had a family relationship with Naruto". Help me understand how you see things and tell me what you would've changed in the dynamic of Naruto and Hinata's relationship that would have made her love for Naruto make sense like Sakura's love for Sasuke makes sense to you.

Is NaruHina a good pairing? I believe it is. Was it presented properly in the manga? Hell no. But like I said before, none of the pairings were. I don't think that means they're bad, senseless pairings.
 

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naruto liked sakura for a long ass time lol and anyone who denies that is dumb
he obvs wanted her intimately, wanting kisses and all that and calling her his girlfriend

And yet Naruto passed the buck on making any sort of move on Sakura, and rejected her when she was literally throwing herself at him. He never even tells her he likes or loves her. Nothing Naruto ever did in the series was to gain Sakura's affections. Naruto calling Sakura his GF was just Naruto being an idiot. A way to interject some tsundere violence into the manga.
 

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naruto liked sakura for a long ass time lol and anyone who denies that is dumb
he obvs wanted her intimately, wanting kisses and all that and calling her his girlfriend

lol the dude never really loved Sakura

all the times he tries and shows his affection it is run down like a joke.... screaming date and acting childish

did you ever see Naruto open up to Sakura? the dude opened up to a bunch of people but never her

heck he told Hinata the truth about himself during the Chunin exams yet he was with Sakura for months.... he later has a heart and heart with Gaara yet still not once does he overly ask for help and/or relates himself to Sakura

not once.... the only time she sees a tiny glimpse of the real Naruto is when he is concerned about someone else and not her
 
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Those other paths are really not that hard to take out.Jiraya took out 3 and Konohamaru and Kakashi also took out 2.Its the Deva Path which matters
Unlike people that you mentioned Naruto defeated 4 paths on his own.

And you completely forget about Kurama in that scene
Kurama has nothing to do with Narutos words about fake Sasuke.
 
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Honestly, I wonder what manga did antis think they were reading, when they write posts like this.


Review of the Boruto movie.
"I thought that The Last was really the last disastrous blow to Naruto's downfall, yet this is even worse.
The villain was with the ultimate eye power of the rinnegan, yet he couldn't sustain the tiny rasengan Bolt threw at him because he wasn't aware of it? Rinnegan was supposed to absorb ninjutsu AUTOMATICALLY, man! And from when did Bolt have the time-space ninjutsu, as he could transfer the rasengan to another space and make it appear again? From what I remember in the manga, only Kamui (Obito's sharingan power) could have done that, and Bolt didn't even have the sharingan, lol.

The father-and-son tension was terrible too, Bolt was angry because his father was busy protecting the village? Most children have working parents who couldn't be home till evening too, not to mention Naruto seemed to send his clones home often, so that kind of tension is too forced and ridiculous. On the other hand, Naruto, who always craved for family and love and dreamed of become Hokage, behaved like he's bored the hell out of it with both his family and his job, feels like just being sold by Kishimoto to milk the series a bit longer.

In short, if The Last destroyed all bonds Naruto treasured to forcefully insert an useless-but-with-boobs Hinata into his life, Boruto the movie successfully poops on the rest of the logic on ninjutsu and techniques that's been left on the series."



Also, whats up with antis bringing up Hinata's boobs? They talk about them more than pro-NH and pro-enders.
 
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