why did itachi kill the whole uchiha clan

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nop..I agreed and continue agreing! U on the other hand aren't understanding what is beeing said!
To be a relative is to be part of the same familly..

That doesn't imply that if sasuke's mom and dad weren't relatives they weren't both Uchiha.. it just implies they weren't related (sons of the same parent's..grand sons of the same grand parents, etc)

concluding.. they can be Uchiha (be from the same Clan) and not be relatives (not beeing members of the same familly)


sorry dude I can't explain it better to u! but rest assure that u are misunderstanding what is being said
okay i get it now you didnt explain it that well the first time.
 

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I think I did..well enough for 2 other members of the discussion to understand me..

but ok..I didn't..let's leave it at that! it's starting to get boring..
 
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I'll try to give u my point of view.. it is not like a incest to me.. they may very well not be directly related (be part of the same familly) and still be Uchiha! Like if u are caucasion and mate with another caucasion..same for indian, asian african whatever! catch my drift?!

but historicwise.. when people lived in remote villages most famillies mated within the village.. and did not permit relations between different villages (tribes..whatever) not meaning that it was incest! Conserving the blood of the tribe.. it had most to do it that than anyother thing..

hope u understood[/QUOTE]

ok so your basicly saying they are distantly related rght? if so then that makes much more sense thanks. but there is still a possibility that she is not born into the Uchiha clan since i havnt seen anything in the manga saying so for a fact rght?
 

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I'll try to give u my point of view.. it is not like a incest to me.. they may very well not be directly related (be part of the same familly) and still be Uchiha! Like if u are caucasion and mate with another caucasion..same for indian, asian african whatever! catch my drift?!

but historicwise.. when people lived in remote villages most famillies mated within the village.. and did not permit relations between different villages (tribes..whatever) not meaning that it was incest! Conserving the blood of the tribe.. it had most to do it that than anyother thing..

hope u understood
ok so your basicly saying they are distantly related rght? if so then that makes much more sense thanks. but there is still a possibility that she is not born into the Uchiha clan since i havnt seen anything in the manga saying so for a fact rght?[/QUOTE]

that's like saying that uchiha is a race and not a name... soo i'm not sure that is correct.. cuz all those things you just described are races
 

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ok so your basicly saying they are distantly related rght? if so then that makes much more sense thanks. but there is still a possibility that she is not born into the Uchiha clan since i havnt seen anything in the manga saying so for a fact rght?
that's like saying that uchiha is a race and not a name... soo i'm not sure that is correct.. cuz all those things you just described are races[/QUOTE]

it kinda is like a race but also not ( i know confusing) this because you can marry into the uchiha clan or you can be born into it so the ones who are born can activate sharringan but if you marry you cant ( for example sakura marries sasuke and has a kid the kid can activate sharringan but sakura just changes her name to uchiha) clear as mud i know
 

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that's like saying that uchiha is a race and not a name... soo i'm not sure that is correct.. cuz all those things you just described are races
yes..when genetically speaking they are a race.. Not a different species..but a different race
there is a piece of genetic information that makes their eyes be sharingans (as there is genetic information that makes everyone of us have the features we have..and they are transmited by our parents..)
A different feature (at least in the real world) beggins from a single mutation that occured in a single living being..if that mutation survives future generations only depends on if it is or isn t transmited.. (u have other important factors.. but let's try to leave as simple as can be) and as it was said earlier..in the beggining the descendents that carry out the new feature are closely related..but with time they distance themselves.. (I can make u a scenario the accelerates this progression..imagine I bear a mutation and I mate and have 10 sons In my lifetime.. themselves have each 10 sons as well.. in 3 generation u have the sum total of 1000 bearers of this so called mutation..only 3generations)
For those who didn't get me..I'll try putting it in others words.. Human descend from primates.. at some time we shared the same characteriscs as apes and monkeys..we were a different but all the same species.. each new species suffered a serie of mutations and originated diferent species (inicially as the features weren't accumulated and we had only started to be different..it was still the same species but a different race..as this progress we furthered diferentiated from the original species and finally became our own..it isn't consanguine relation to mate with another human now is it? was it in sometime?! in someway it was..

I think most of u are fixed on the fact that clan's are famillies..that is and isn't so!
And u should all know what u are saying. incest doesn t make the children retard.. the closer the blood relationship the greater the risks are.. the nervous system is indeed afected..but mental illnesses such as bipolarity and schizophrenia are the most common illnesses that happen due to the repetition of genetic information..on the other hand a person being retarded is associated to missing genetic information that happens due to an imperfect meiotic division (the division that happens to the gametas that carry male and female information) (this last can occur in any "blood relation")

well..my english is a bit rusty but I hope u understood everything

best regards
 
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well put neogeo just like my biology class but you probably just went over the head of a few people.
i know m8 :(

but it wasn't me that was sticking to the incest mutation and retards bit..
and I know many members are still kids..but it won't hurt them to be better informed..

ty for the support..now and earlier! i noticed u backing me up! ;)
 
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i know m8 :(

but it wasn't me that was sticking to the incest mutation and retards bit..
and I know many members are still kids..but it won't hurt them to be better informed..

ty for the support..now and earlier! i noticed u backing me up! ;)
no problem just wanted to help people understand
 

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i know m8 :(

but it wasn't me that was sticking to the incest mutation and retards bit..
and I know many members are still kids..but it won't hurt them to be better informed..

ty for the support..now and earlier! i noticed u backing me up! ;)
lol i'm not a kid, i'm acctually 22 years old with a wife and son and i'm in the army... the incest and retard bit was just me joking around... and i like learning and being better informed.. soo i understood what you were saying.. and i agree with you mostly so far you and i haven't really disagreed on alot of things... and yes i'm aware that for my age i'm a shitty speller... i wasn't very good at english/literature or any of that... tho i have really nice hand writing apparently.. lol.. nice to meet you guys!!!.. lol
 

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Itachi mother and father are still alive,that why madara had respect for itachi because he have an idea itachi was holding somthing back

remember i said that
 

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lol i'm not a kid
neither did I say u were my friend.. and for those that I meant they were..I didn't mean it in a bad way..just replying to the part that i would be going over the heads of a few..

and if I'm wrong or don't know something I'm more than happy if anyone will tell me how it is.. if u get me..

anyway..sorry if i ofended u
 

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yes..when genetically speaking they are a race.. Not a different species..but a different race
there is a piece of genetic information that makes their eyes be sharingans (as there is genetic information that makes everyone of us have the features we have..and they are transmited by our parents..)
A different feature (at least in the real world) beggins from a single mutation that occured in a single living being..if that mutation survives future generations only depends on if it is or isn t transmited.. (u have other important factors.. but let's try to leave as simple as can be) and as it was said earlier..in the beggining the descendents that carry out the new feature are closely related..but with time they distance themselves.. (I can make u a scenario the accelerates this progression..imagine I bear a mutation and I mate and have 10 sons In my lifetime.. themselves have each 10 sons as well.. in 3 generation u have the sum total of 1000 bearers of this so called mutation..only 3generations)
For those who didn't get me..I'll try putting it in others words.. Human descend from primates.. at some time we shared the same characteriscs as apes and monkeys..we were a different but all the same species.. each new species suffered a serie of mutations and originated diferent species (inicially as the features weren't accumulated and we had only started to be different..it was still the same species but a different race..as this progress we furthered diferentiated from the original species and finally became our own..it isn't consanguine relation to mate with another human now is it? was it in sometime?! in someway it was..

I think most of u are fixed on the fact that clan's are famillies..that is and isn't so!
And u should all know what u are saying. incest doesn t make the children retard.. the closer the blood relationship the greater the risks are.. the nervous system is indeed afected..but mental illnesses such as bipolarity and schizophrenia are the most common illnesses that happen due to the repetition of genetic information..on the other hand a person being retarded is associated to missing genetic information that happens due to an imperfect meiotic division (the division that happens to the gametas that carry male and female information) (this last can occur in any "blood relation")

well..my english is a bit rusty but I hope u understood everything

best regards
good job but damn thats a lot to read
 

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Itachi mother and father are still alive,that why madara had respect for itachi because he have an idea itachi was holding somthing back

remember i said that
I will m8 although I think of all the theories I've heard so far..that is with no doubt one of those I consider less likely
 

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neither did I say u were my friend.. and for those that I meant they were..I didn't mean it in a bad way..just replying to the part that i would be going over the heads of a few..

and if I'm wrong or don't know something I'm more than happy if anyone will tell me how it is.. if u get me..

anyway..sorry if i ofended u
it's cool... lol
 

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when the fox attack the leaf itachi said they were no where to be found what do you think of that.
I think I remember seeying I don't know how many times along the series in Sasuke's memories when arriving home the night of the massacre both of them lying on the floor in a pool of blood and Sasuke flippin'out!

they were there to be found weren't they?
 

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I think I remember seeying I don't know how many times along the series in Sasuke's memories when arriving home the night of the massacre both of them lying on the floor in a pool of blood and Sasuke flippin'out!

they were there to be found weren't they?
he's talking about in the manga when kushina gave birth to naruto and the fox attacked when he was sitting on the porch with sasuke and his parents where out somewhere else.. two diff nights geo.. lol
 

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Itachi mother and father are still alive,that why madara had respect for itachi because he have an idea itachi was holding somthing back

remember i said that
he's talking about in the manga when kushina gave birth to naruto and the fox attacked when he was sitting on the porch with sasuke and his parents where out somewhere else.. two diff nights geo.. lol
yes I know..but as u see in the above question I'm answering correctly..don't know what he means thou
 

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yes I know..but as u see in the above question I'm answering correctly..don't know what he means thou
lol ok.. i may need ur help with the edo tensei: 4th hokage threaded i don't think they understand what i'm trying to say and i'm sure you would understand.. lol
 
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