ur obviously cranky so let me iliterate for you in a nice way. You may know what he said but only he knows what me meant weather ur right or not. Doesnt matter how mch studying on a move you do, a missunderstaning is still a missunderstanding. And I stick by what I said. Just cause EMS Sasuke has more power and control, doesnt mean that upgrading old moves makes them new. A punch is still a punch even if u get stronger and more acurate. And before you tell someone to read the manga ( wich is probably one of the most offencive things to say to a good fan) make sure u think it through weather or not ur gonna hurt someone. I did nothing 2 you for u to be a jerk to me, so dont.
Why can't sasuke beat pain???
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Sasuke1025
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Ya but there's no prove that you need that powerfull of an attack to destroy it so idk sasuke might be able to destroy itthat's the thing. people assume that they used "just the right ammount" of power when they combined their strength. It's a **** way to say Nagato would've killed Itachi if it wasn't fo those two, because otherwise, it was a 1 on 1 fight. Bee and Naruto were more of a nuisance in that fight. Itachi never stated that they just barely destroyed it. Itachi always plays it safe. that's why he asked for help, but honestly, we DON'T KNOW if multiple yasaka magatamas could've broken it alone. Some people assume, and then take those assumptions as facts
I agree with u til u say pains reaction, again, there both very smart people, hes not just gonn take a kirin to the face as soon as he sees thinder clouds, and again, there not just gonna all stand togeather to all be taken down at once...
can't take this no more..i gat to say something...saying sasuke would own pain is just bananas...saying that is like saying a pit bull would own a lion. Pain was a god, undefeated second or third so6p...J-man was the only one who had a slight chance of defeating pain
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But he doesn't know about Kirin how do you know that he would think that the thunderclouds would be a jutsu and not just a coincidence because of sasuke fireballs and yes they're always close to each other because they need to protect each other
1.It can be extinguished. Ofc thats not an ability nagato nesisarily has so it doesnt help in this fight but still. 2 The fire would be turned into chakra.. 3The nature chakra couldnt be changed into chakra cause it already is chakra. Black flame chakra doesnt = nature chakra. There for they wont act the same. Like if there was a move made of pure nature chakra, (lets say a flame) and pain absorbed (wich btw doesnt = get rid of or extinguish) it, he would be effected by the nature chakra inside of it, not the flames.
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How can it be extinguish and ok get this when Itachi Naruto and bee was fighting Naruto y would he use shinra tensei instead of observing it Naruto knows his 5 seconds delay after he uses tht jutsu so y would he use his best technique instead of just observing it
The only 1 that needs protecting is the healing 1. And as seen when Naruto fights pain, the only 2 that sticks togeather are the sumoning and healing one's. (and sometimes the deva) the other 3 would attack. And wile he doesnt know about kirin, Sasuke suddenly raising his hand is a good indication that he's about to do smething, I mean yes, Sasuke is smart, maybe even smarter then pain, but that doesnt make pain an idiot. I never said that he couldnt pull off a kirin. But It still stands to say it wont be easy. And even when he does, he has to hit 6 targets + more if there are summons.
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Troll thread please remove this nonsense....
Madara,tobi,minato,naruto,pain,and narutobase(Sensible People) > Uchiha Sasuke...don't bother replying back fanboys....No fcks will be given.
Madara,tobi,minato,naruto,pain,and narutobase(Sensible People) > Uchiha Sasuke...don't bother replying back fanboys....No fcks will be given.
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Well I never said that pulling off a kirin was easy either and well if he can at least kills naraka path and animal Path it will help
Sasuke has extinguished it several times. And wile there is no real explination, by all means he could have just taken off his burning cloths.. Or even just took the fire, his dead body was imortal at the time. Maybe he was just acting on the moment and doing what he knew would work.
Dont be so mean
Thats the kicker, he'd need to know what pain to targt.
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You do have some good points. You are the rare person that actually makes senseI mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain
Reasons:
1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy
2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!
3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand
4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds
So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose
. Although there are some things that I have on my mind about this. First is that since the rennigan gives shared view then the 6 pains will know when sasuke is going to use amaterasu (I might be wrong though). Sharingan genjutsu is the same as susanoo genjutsu btw. You are right that tsukoyomi is one of the strongest genjutsu that exists but you cant trap every pain in it. its not true that tsukoyomi can trap all of them in it. IT CANT! there is prof behind this. remember when Jiraiya was fighting pain? he trapped 3 of them in genjutsu but the others were not effected. It's true that pain had a hard time fighting Naruto's clones although that is probably because Nagato used way to much chakra. Think about it! I mean he destroyed konoha, the other pains fought shinobi including kakashi, he had to use the thing that brings the pains back to life(forgot what it was called), and he used the Chibaku tensai! THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH CHAKRA THAT IS! If Sasuke was fighting pain then kirin wouldn't do too much or could be either absorbed or repelled. Dont forget the fact that pain can repel and attract objects meaning that he can use shirina tensai on sasuke before he has a chance to use kirin.Another thing is that you are forgetting the fact that pain can use summons. How will sasuke deal with that. He can't seal them like itachi can.
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Haha that's true xD so I guess he's not gonna b able to use it from the beginning and sasuke can extinguish it because that's just his ability like how Itachi is better at tsukoyomi sasuke is better at controlling Amaterasu
Not saying its impossible for him to use kirin for the win, but it isnt probable. Sasuke isnt gonna run into the fight and imediately kirin, and he's too smart to use it after fighting the pains and figuring out there abilities. He would know he'd need a stratagee requiering all of his stringth.
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I doubt it it couldn't even destroy a pillarwell yeah. Ifan arrow hits you, you die
Sasuke fanboys overrate arrows OD I mean the only reason why Kakashi warped it cuz he has no defence ppl like gaara orochimaru pain A have defense if not thier body in general they have defense around them
Also sasuke cant beat pain at all.
Ok I hate sasuke with a passion but everybody keeps saying he Dnt have tysukiomi it says in his bio he does and also I thought Thts wha he used against bee???
Now my question is even if he does use it on one of the paths what would it honestly do theryre corpses arnt they?? Tyukiomi attack the mind and hurts it or w.e how u suppose to hurt the mind of somebody who isn't alive
The paths also Dnt feel pain cuz theryre died so like how itachi did tokakashi made him belive he was being stabbed for 3 days how would tht hurt the paths one was toughened by iBeiki or somebody from leaf village they wouldn't budge so yeah my a
Question is would would tht jutsu do against the paths
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Sasuke can't even beat deva path or animal path. His genjutsu is weak. Amaterasu can be counter so many ways its not funny. N susanno can be counter by deva path or the path with all the missile. Sasuke has no way of defeating 6pop. N if someone truly believe amaterasu won't be absorb then ur an idiot honestly.
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