Why can't sasuke beat pain???

[ninjamos]

no dude i read excatly what he said he said you need orochimaru's charka to perform kirin i red it myself. kirin has nothing to do with orochimaru.

its created by a power fire jutsu such as amatersu. which makes clouds, clouds make rain, rain normal accompines lighting. sasuke guides the lighting.:sy:

i love how you people pick and choose what people say in post.

i said for that kid to stop compare rasgenshirkun to amatersu, because in his whole post he was basically talking about naruto and sasuke. and he was basically saying that ems could only take sm naruto. now stop cuting and pasting i say" not literally but u get it.

ems has nothing new? how about the abiltiy to spam amatersu unlike ms? ability to spam doujutsu w/o going blind like ms?

sasukes ems gained no new abilites? Blaze Release Magatama. overall you should at least read all of what i said, read up on stuff before you post next time.

ur obviously cranky so let me iliterate for you in a nice way. You may know what he said but only he knows what me meant weather ur right or not. Doesnt matter how mch studying on a move you do, a missunderstaning is still a missunderstanding. And I stick by what I said. Just cause EMS Sasuke has more power and control, doesnt mean that upgrading old moves makes them new. A punch is still a punch even if u get stronger and more acurate. And before you tell someone to read the manga ( wich is probably one of the most offencive things to say to a good fan) make sure u think it through weather or not ur gonna hurt someone. I did nothing 2 you for u to be a jerk to me, so dont.

 

[ninjamos]

mb you might be right about the whole eye thing idk for sure.

all i know is that the manga said WHEN TOBI WAS ABOUT TO >PAPERGIRL
IS THAT HE SAID IVE CAME BACK FOR MY EYES. incenting that he gave them to him, this is why i said that. no of you people who say im wrong have no proof showing it. so till then nagato eyes were givein to him, this is why he cant turn them off.

lol i just think its kinda funny because that guy said nagato never lost a fight, and btw i dont think kisame lost to guy.

kisame still had enough strength to break out of the 1st hokage wood prision thing, perform that shark messenger jutsu, and perform another jutsu to kill himself.

while guy was a sitting duck after his attack. if it wasnt for kisame being around naruto,bee,guy,kakashi, yamato then he had the tools to kill guy.

go read the manga you'll see kisame had enough energy to kill guy if it wasnt for all those others

If u read ull also find out that guy could have killed kisame but held back toget info...

 

[Sasuke1025]

that's the thing. people assume that they used "just the right ammount" of power when they combined their strength. It's a **** way to say Nagato would've killed Itachi if it wasn't fo those two, because otherwise, it was a 1 on 1 fight. Bee and Naruto were more of a nuisance in that fight. Itachi never stated that they just barely destroyed it. Itachi always plays it safe. that's why he asked for help, but honestly, we DON'T KNOW if multiple yasaka magatamas could've broken it alone. Some people assume, and then take those assumptions as facts

Ya but there's no prove that you need that powerfull of an attack to destroy it so idk sasuke might be able to destroy it

 

[ninjamos]

Dude sasuke is smart he's not just just going to shoot a bunch of fire balls up to the sky he's gonna come at him and force him to jump then he can shoot the fire balls but purposely miss and when pain sees the thinder clouds he isn't gonna b like oh sh*t thunder clouds he's gonna use natural lightning no one has ever tamed natural lightning so by the time he raise his chidori it'll b to late

I agree with u til u say pains reaction, again, there both very smart people, hes not just gonn take a kirin to the face as soon as he sees thinder clouds, and again, there not just gonna all stand togeather to all be taken down at once...

 

[sanchy]

can't take this no more..i gat to say something...saying sasuke would own pain is just bananas...saying that is like saying a pit bull would own a lion. Pain was a god, undefeated second or third so6p...J-man was the only one who had a slight chance of defeating pain

 

[Sasuke1025]

I agree with u til u say pains reaction, again, there both very smart people, hes not just gonn take a kirin to the face as soon as he sees thinder clouds, and again, there not just gonna all stand togeather to all be taken down at once...

But he doesn't know about Kirin how do you know that he would think that the thunderclouds would be a jutsu and not just a coincidence because of sasuke fireballs and yes they're always close to each other because they need to protect each other

 

[ninjamos]

Dude what don't you get about Amaterasu not able to be extinguish it'll keep burning 4 7 days and 7 nights if he absorb that I'm pretty sure it'll keep burning inside him like how he died from natural chakra and about susano'O what makes you think tht sasuke is gonna stand there while pain is getting closer to absorb it

1.It can be extinguished. Ofc thats not an ability nagato nesisarily has so it doesnt help in this fight but still. 2 The fire would be turned into chakra.. 3The nature chakra couldnt be changed into chakra cause it already is chakra. Black flame chakra doesnt = nature chakra. There for they wont act the same. Like if there was a move made of pure nature chakra, (lets say a flame) and pain absorbed (wich btw doesnt = get rid of or extinguish) it, he would be effected by the nature chakra inside of it, not the flames.

 

[Sasuke1025]

1.It can be extinguished. Ofc thats not an ability nagato nesisarily has so it doesnt help in this fight but still. 2 The fire would be turned into chakra.. 3The nature chakra couldnt be changed into chakra cause it already is chakra. Black flame chakra doesnt = nature chakra. There for they wont act the same. Like if there was a move made of pure nature chakra, (lets say a flame) and pain absorbed (wich btw doesnt = get rid of or extinguish) it, he would be effected by the nature chakra inside of it, not the flames.

How can it be extinguish and ok get this when Itachi Naruto and bee was fighting Naruto y would he use shinra tensei instead of observing it Naruto knows his 5 seconds delay after he uses tht jutsu so y would he use his best technique instead of just observing it

 

[ninjamos]

But he doesn't know about Kirin how do you know that he would think that the thunderclouds would be a jutsu and not just a coincidence because of sasuke fireballs and yes they're always close to each other because they need to protect each other

The only 1 that needs protecting is the healing 1. And as seen when Naruto fights pain, the only 2 that sticks togeather are the sumoning and healing one's. (and sometimes the deva) the other 3 would attack. And wile he doesnt know about kirin, Sasuke suddenly raising his hand is a good indication that he's about to do smething, I mean yes, Sasuke is smart, maybe even smarter then pain, but that doesnt make pain an idiot. I never said that he couldnt pull off a kirin. But It still stands to say it wont be easy. And even when he does, he has to hit 6 targets + more if there are summons.

 

[UnrealSoul]

Troll thread please remove this nonsense....

Madara,tobi,minato,naruto,pain,and narutobase(Sensible People) > Uchiha Sasuke...don't bother replying back fanboys....No fcks will be given.

 

[Sasuke1025]

The only 1 that needs protecting is the healing 1. And as seen when Naruto fights pain, the only 2 that sticks togeather are the sumoning and healing one's. (and sometimes the deva) the other 3 would attack. And wile he doesnt know about kirin, Sasuke suddenly raising his hand is a good indication that he's about to do smething, I mean yes, Sasuke is smart, maybe even smarter then pain, but that doesnt make pain an idiot. I never said that he couldnt pull off a kirin. But It still stands to say it wont be easy. And even when he does, he has to hit 6 targets + more if there are summons.

Well I never said that pulling off a kirin was easy either and well if he can at least kills naraka path and animal Path it will help

 

[ninjamos]

How can it be extinguish and ok get this when Itachi Naruto and bee was fighting Naruto y would he use shinra tensei instead of observing it Naruto knows his 5 seconds delay after he uses tht jutsu so y would he use his best technique instead of just observing it

Sasuke has extinguished it several times. And wile there is no real explination, by all means he could have just taken off his burning cloths.. Or even just took the fire, his dead body was imortal at the time. Maybe he was just acting on the moment and doing what he knew would work.

Troll thread please remove this nonsense....

Madara,tobi,minato,naruto,pain,and narutobase(Sensible People) > Uchiha Sasuke...don't bother replying back fanboys....No fcks will be given.

Dont be so mean

Well I never said that pulling off a kirin was easy either and well if he can at least kills naraka path and animal Path it will help

Thats the kicker, he'd need to know what pain to targt.

 

[endo]

I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

Reasons:

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

You do have some good points. You are the rare person that actually makes sense . Although there are some things that I have on my mind about this. First is that since the rennigan gives shared view then the 6 pains will know when sasuke is going to use amaterasu (I might be wrong though). Sharingan genjutsu is the same as susanoo genjutsu btw. You are right that tsukoyomi is one of the strongest genjutsu that exists but you cant trap every pain in it. its not true that tsukoyomi can trap all of them in it. IT CANT! there is prof behind this. remember when Jiraiya was fighting pain? he trapped 3 of them in genjutsu but the others were not effected. It's true that pain had a hard time fighting Naruto's clones although that is probably because Nagato used way to much chakra. Think about it! I mean he destroyed konoha, the other pains fought shinobi including kakashi, he had to use the thing that brings the pains back to life(forgot what it was called), and he used the Chibaku tensai! THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH CHAKRA THAT IS! If Sasuke was fighting pain then kirin wouldn't do too much or could be either absorbed or repelled. Dont forget the fact that pain can repel and attract objects meaning that he can use shirina tensai on sasuke before he has a chance to use kirin.

Another thing is that you are forgetting the fact that pain can use summons. How will sasuke deal with that. He can't seal them like itachi can.

 

[Sasuke1025]

Thats the kicker, he'd need to know what pain to targt.

Haha that's true xD so I guess he's not gonna b able to use it from the beginning and sasuke can extinguish it because that's just his ability like how Itachi is better at tsukoyomi sasuke is better at controlling Amaterasu

 

[xjimbox]

Lack of knowledge would make home lose

 

[ninjamos]

Haha that's true xD so I guess he's not gonna b able to use it from the beginning and sasuke can extinguish it because that's just his ability like how Itachi is better at tsukoyomi sasuke is better at controlling Amaterasu

Not saying its impossible for him to use kirin for the win, but it isnt probable. Sasuke isnt gonna run into the fight and imediately kirin, and he's too smart to use it after fighting the pains and figuring out there abilities. He would know he'd need a stratagee requiering all of his stringth.

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

well yeah. Ifan arrow hits you, you die . Susanoo's arrows are really fast but not that strong of a technique. I can provide pages, that show that it's dstructive powers are nowhee near some A and S rank techniques but yeah. A normal person get's hit with it, he/she dies

I doubt it it couldn't even destroy a pillar
Sasuke fanboys overrate arrows OD I mean the only reason why Kakashi warped it cuz he has no defence ppl like gaara orochimaru pain A have defense if not thier body in general they have defense around them
Also sasuke cant beat pain at all.

Ok I hate sasuke with a passion but everybody keeps saying he Dnt have tysukiomi it says in his bio he does and also I thought Thts wha he used against bee???
Now my question is even if he does use it on one of the paths what would it honestly do theryre corpses arnt they?? Tyukiomi attack the mind and hurts it or w.e how u suppose to hurt the mind of somebody who isn't alive
The paths also Dnt feel pain cuz theryre died so like how itachi did tokakashi made him belive he was being stabbed for 3 days how would tht hurt the paths one was toughened by iBeiki or somebody from leaf village they wouldn't budge so yeah my a
Question is would would tht jutsu do against the paths

 

[sage22]

Sasuke can't even beat deva path or animal path. His genjutsu is weak. Amaterasu can be counter so many ways its not funny. N susanno can be counter by deva path or the path with all the missile. Sasuke has no way of defeating 6pop. N if someone truly believe amaterasu won't be absorb then ur an idiot honestly.

 

[ismael]

Just cause he doesn't care about girl and wears black it doesn't mean he is emo and gay

 

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