Why are people saying Indra didn't have the Rinnegan ?

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Indra inhereted Hagoromo's visual prowess

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Here is a pic of him prior to Hagoromo appearance in the manga,looks like a spiral dojutsu never shown in the manga before by others.


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He had two mutated Rinnegans just like Sasuke has one now


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He had the sharingan, not rinnegan. And where did you get that pic of Ashura?
 

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sasuke looks so badass !!!
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OT: You need both indra and ashura's chakra to get rinnegan.
 

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The eyes are in quotes because Indra just gained his visual prowess from the Sage. The only people to ever unlock the Rinnegan was the Sage and Madara, only by having Indra's and Ashura's chakra infused. Indra only had his own chakra, BZ said that Madara was the first he was able to influence to get the Rinnegan.
He had the sharingan, not rinnegan. And where did you get that pic of Ashura?

It's back when Tobi talked to Naruto about Sasuke wanting to take revenge on Konoha.
 

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Because he did not :|
 

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He had the sharingan, not rinnegan. And where did you get that pic of Ashura?

He inherited Hagoromo's rinnegan. You mean the second one ? It's a coloured version of the first pic. I got it from Narutopedia
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Kishi showed later in the chapter where the sage appears that he has just a sharingan.
 

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The eyes are in quotes because Indra just gained his visual prowess from the Sage. The only people to ever unlock the Rinnegan was the Sage and Madara, only by having Indra's and Ashura's chakra infused. Indra only had his own chakra, BZ said that Madara was the first he was able to influence to get the Rinnegan.


It's back when Tobi talked to Naruto about Sasuke wanting to take revenge on Konoha.

The first pic is from that part. So that means that Madara was better than Indra since he awakened the Rinnegan ?
If you look closely that's a spiral eye pattern .And if you remember Hagoromo never said he had the Sharingan but he did mention Kaguya had it
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its a sharingan, not rinnegan. the shape might look like rinnegan but its not. its perfect sharingan (probably already ems)
 

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The Sharingan is the sage's eyes, just a watered down form, so him having Sharingan does not make that statement wrong. He had Sharingan, and was never shown with any form of Rinnegan.
 

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sage clearly said that indra+ashura=sage chakra(rinnegan)
 

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Indra inhereted Hagoromo's visual prowess

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Here is a pic of him prior to Hagoromo appearance in the manga,looks like a spiral dojutsu never shown in the manga.


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He had two mutated Rinnegans just like Sasuke has one now


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Lmao! He had the Sharingan not the Rinnegan. Zzz
 

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its a sharingan, not rinnegan. the shape might look like rinnegan but its not. its perfect sharingan (probably already ems)

The Sharingan is the sage's eyes, just a watered down form, so him having Sharingan does not make that statement wrong. He had Sharingan, and was never shown with any form of Rinnegan.

sage clearly said that indra+ashura=sage chakra(rinnegan)

But those eyes are spiral. That's what has me
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The first pic is from that part. So that means that Madara was better than Indra since he awakened the Rinnegan ?
If you look closely that's a spiral eye pattern.And if you remember Hagoromo never said he had the Sharingan but he did mention Kaguya had it
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Pretty much, Madara ended up gaining a strength greater than Indra's but Indra was so powerful mainly because he was born directly from the Sage himself, he was born with the Sharingan rather than having to unlock it like his descendants. Also, that spiral was way before Kishi started giving us details about Indra and Ashura. Kishi could have very well decided to change things slightly. People used to think that Indra had his own special doujutsu b/c of that panel you mention. Seems to me that Kishi didn't have his ideas set in stone at this time. It's possible that could be a MS design or a Sharingan that Kishi just didn't elaborate on. It resembles a Rinnegan but it definitely doesn't look the exact same. To assume he had the Rinnegan cause of this scan is a little presumptuous.
 
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He inherited Hagoromo's rinnegan. You mean the second one ? It's a coloured version of the first pic. I got it from Narutopedia
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But I think that is not the Rinnegan. It maybe the unique pattern of his Mangekyou Sharingan.
 

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Pretty much, Madara ended up gaining a strength greater than Indra's but Indra was so powerful mainly because he was born directly from the Sage himself, he was born with the Sharingan rather than having to unlock it like his descendants. Also, that spiral was way before Kishi started giving us details about Indra and Ashura. Kishi could have very well decided to change things slightly. People used to think that Indra had his own special doujutsu b/c of that panel you mention. Seems to me that Kishi didn't have his ideas set in stone at this time. It's possible that could be a MS design or a Sharingan that Kishi just didn't elaborate on. It resembles a Rinnegan but it definitely doesn't look the exact same. To assume he had the Rinnegan cause of this scan is a little presumptuous.

That's what is keeping me from thinking that. And the fact that Hagoromo never said he had the Sharingan but did say Kaguya had it.

So you think that official scan was an unfinished sketch of true Indra's eyes ? Plausible
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