Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNaruto

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Oh damn, I remember you, you made some threads that kinda went on for pages and pages :wut: Welcome back.
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Sarcasm is funny after the first or second time. This guy is just sucking the fun out of it. Well, OP have fun soloing these naysayers.
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

The point is logically he should have.




I didn't say that he should have had mastery of it. I was just pointing out that unlike Naruto, he didn't recieve instant mastery of his abilities. Clearly this effected both of their performances.

All you're doing is using outside reasonings. I'm using in story reasonings.
Yes! It is unfair that he did not receive instant mastery like his long time rival. This effected their performance a gratuitous amount.

In story reasonings indeed! It is not as if an in story prohicy indicated that Naruto would win against the curse!

Your logic and reasoning skills are fullproof.

Sarcasm is funny after the first or second time. This guy is just sucking the fun out of it. Well, OP have fun soloing these naysayers.
There is no fun in logic. I ask that you continue using the sound logic you've used in this thread. You are in one word, a genius.

I enjoyed the, if i may quote, "genjutsu kurama inside Naruto's mind"

And "coreless Ct"

Such vivid and detailed explanation from you. Inherited from your parents or the floor you were dropped on no doubt.
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

I simply cannot wait for the next compelling logic from our very own, Naruto X Hunter!
 

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

In story reasonings indeed! It is not as if an in story prohicy indicated that Naruto would win against the curse!

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Prophecy was wrong as the village is currently destroyed based on what people say
 

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Prophecy was wrong as the village is currently destroyed based on what people say
Yes! You are right! The entire village is permanently destroyed! The curse is alive! Damn that prohecy about the curse was a farce.

Edit: i cant keep up this sarcasm and enthusiasm. I have to save it for the OP. So just assume im saying you're wrong and stawman me to death.
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Prophecy was wrong as the village is currently destroyed based on what people say
Prophecy couldnt see any further bcus manga writer changes hand.

What I mean Kishi reign as NV God end and now Ikemoto takes control :sdo:

The altering of NV history(past, present and future) done in instance
 

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Prophecy couldnt see any further bcus manga writer changes hand.

What I mean Kishi reign as NV God end and now Ikemoto takes control :sdo:

The altering of NV history done in instance
I agree.Wont be surprised if we see RSM Bolt in some chapters.:) .This manga contradicts a lot of what the original stood for but then again I consider it a joke overall so doesnt matter much.Just scan the pages for the hilarity of it all
 

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Oh damn, I remember you, you made some threads that kinda went on for pages and pages :wut: Welcome back.

More like i commented in threads that went on for that long due to people continuously trying and failing to defeat me.

Sarcasm is funny after the first or second time. This guy is just sucking the fun out of it. Well, OP have fun soloing these naysayers.

I spontaneously came back with the thought of doing so.

Both Naruto and Kaguya.

Great answer. They were ofcourse both lucky but i was curious to see who people thought were more lucky.

Yes! It is unfair that he did not receive instant mastery like his long time rival. This effected their performance a gratuitous amount.

In story reasonings indeed! It is not as if an in story prohicy indicated that Naruto would win against the curse!

Your logic and reasoning skills are fullproof.



There is no fun in logic. I ask that you continue using the sound logic you've used in this thread. You are in one word, a genius.

I enjoyed the, if i may quote, "genjutsu kurama inside Naruto's mind"

And "coreless Ct"

Such vivid and detailed explanation from you. Inherited from your parents or the floor you were dropped on no doubt.

So basically you know Sasuke is the superior fighter, logically should have won, but didn't due to what you think is a supposedly unchangeable prophecy, and not because Naruto is actually the better fighter.
 

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

More like i commented in threads that went on for that long due to people continuously trying and failing to defeat me.




I spontaneously came back with the thought of doing so.




Great answer. They were ofcourse both lucky but i was curious to see who people thought were more lucky.




So basically you know Sasuke is the superior fighter, logically should have won, but didn't due to what you think is a supposedly unchangeable prophecy, and not because Naruto is actually the better fighter.
Oh my stars and garters! You are absolutely correct. I see you have also inherited the logic that comes with being dropped on the floor.

Even better! I think Sasuke did not win because of his eye and him not havimg his sword like you said in that excellent first post.

Constructive arguments and reasoning such as that gives me hope that more people will drop their children on the floor. And not by accident!
 

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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Oh my stars and garters! You are absolutely correct. I see you have also inherited the logic that comes with being dropped on the floor.

Even better! I think Sasuke did not win because of his eye and him not havimg his sword like you said in that excellent first post.

Constructive arguments and reasoning such as that gives me hope that more people will drop their children on the floor. And not by accident!

Drop the nonsense and actually counter my points battle wise. No non battle reasonings such as plot, and prophecy. Only speak of their abilities and skills against one another.

NextGenNinja made a great point. I added on to it. Although you may have missed it since i've been replying slowly whilst you were continuing the conversation.



There's nothing that states Sasuke can't enter Naruto's mind again. It was never addressed in any way. So you have no counter for it. Admit it.

Matter of fact, they actually chatted in that white space during the battle. What was keeping Sasuke from going to where the Kyuubi was? He easily could have.

Your counter is the non-existent page which states Sasuke for some reason can't enter his mind with the 6 Tomoe Rinnegan even though he did so with the 3 Tomoe Sharingan.
 
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Drop the nonsense and actually counter my points battle wise. No non battle reasonings such as plot, and prophecy.

NextGenNinja made a great point. I added on to it. Although you may have missed it since i'm replying slowly whilst you were continuing the conversation.



There's nothing that states Sasuke can't enter Naruto's mind again. It was never addressed in any way. So you have no counter for it. Admit it.

Matter of fact, they actually chatted in that white space during the battle. What was keeping Sasuke from going to where the Kyuubi was?
Sir i cannot counter the logic of a man who was prematurely introduced with the floor and the laws of gravity.

I can only hope to see your point of view and I whole heartily agree with the arguments , "no sword", the "genjutsu", and "white spaces."

The link you provided was a good read. I will read it again.

Kaguya is lucky Sasuke didn't try any of that mind genjutsu. She has three eyes and 360 degree vision. That with his sword! She would have been solod big time!
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Let's not forget that Sasuke could'very slammed Naruto with all 9 of his perfectly functional CT instead of letting collect NE and charge up his attacks.

Sword and mastery aside, the battle it self is effy ad both parties had techniques that would've changed a lot most of the battle, especially Sasuke who had infinite ammo bracelets in the tajutsu fight and not using any long ranged chidori variations when he had chackra.

Shit was rushed.
 

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Let's not forget that Sasuke could'very slammed Naruto with all 9 of his perfectly functional CT instead of letting collect NE and charge up his attacks.

Sword and mastery aside, the battle it self is effy ad both parties had techniques that would've changed a lot most of the battle, especially Sasuke who had infinite ammo bracelets in the tajutsu fight and not using any long ranged chidori variations when he had chackra.

Shit was rushed.
Chidori Nagashi
 

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Let's not forget that Sasuke could'very slammed Naruto with all 9 of his perfectly functional CT instead of letting collect NE and charge up his attacks.

Sword and mastery aside, the battle it self is effy ad both parties had techniques that would've changed a lot most of the battle, especially Sasuke who had infinite ammo bracelets in the tajutsu fight and not using any long ranged chidori variations when he had chackra.

Shit was rushed.
Indeed! Sasuke should have simply thrown those useless chakra vessels at that blond jinchuriki and smashed him.

And the infinite ammo bracelets would have came in handy he could infinitely shoot naruto to death in close range. And bury Naruto with the bracelts to infinitely solo him.
 
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Re: Who's more lucky that Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan & lost his Sword?Kaguya orNa

Sir i cannot counter the logic of a man who was prematurely introduced with the floor and the laws of gravity.

I can only hope to see your point of view and I whole heartily agree wispaces, "no sword", the "genjutsu", and "white spaces."

The link you provided was a good read. I will read it again.

Kaguya is lucky Sasuke didn't try any of that mind genjutsu. She has three eyes and 360 degree vision. That with his sword! She would have been solod big time!

You reply to quick. Missed my edit, "He easily could have.

Your counter is the non-existent page which states Sasuke for some reason can't enter his mind with the 6 Tomoe Rinnegan even though he did so with the 3 Tomoe Sharingan."

The location they were in was never given a name. So i referred to it by it's setting - a blank white space. Nothing more. When i say white space you know exactly what i mean. But i see you're just joking on purpose.

I never said Sasuke would use Genjutsu on Kaguya. I literally never even thought about that til now considering how ridiculous it is.

Let's not forget that Sasuke could'very slammed Naruto with all 9 of his perfectly functional CT instead of letting collect NE and charge up his attacks.

He didnt notice that Naruto was gathering NE til he was almost finished. Even if he did then he likely would have let him. After all, he was trying to push Naruto to fight seriously. Sasuke wanted a good battle, not a one sided slaughter. That is the only in story reason we could make as to why he didn't just enter Naruto's mind, and own the Kyuubi as soon as the battle started.


Sword and mastery aside, the battle it self is effy ad both parties had techniques that would've changed a lot most of the battle, especially Sasuke who had infinite ammo bracelets in the tajutsu fight and not using any long ranged chidori variations when he had chackra.

Shit was rushed.
The only other stuff Naruto had was using a massive amount of Shadow Clones, and using the other Bijuus powers to create different RasenShuriken. But instead of doing the latter, he went above by using the Bijuus strongest technique, the Bijuubomb several times. And the more clones he makes, the more he divides his power. So that's not effective either.

@bold

Damn, you and NextGenNinja are bringing up good points. This was some of the stuff i've already had in mind when i said Sasuke was restricted from ultilizing his abilities to his full advantage. I'll go ahead and go into detail since you brought it up.


Against Itachi Sasuke summoned and threw a massive amount of Shuriken within seconds.

This and the next few pages.





Against Naruto he only summoned and threw 3 Shuriken literally as he was falling to the ground, which each took out an entire clone. Then he got up, activated Chidori and charged at what he thought was the real Naruto. The clone stopped his arm and he was punched by the real Naruto.

This/the next page



Instead of charging at him with Chidori, he could have easily summoned more shuriken and safely threw them from a distance. That's efficient. He would conserve chakra and physical energy, and wouldn't have to worry about being hit himself.


Aside from not using Genjutsu, Chibaku Tensei, and Bansho Tenin on Naruto, even though he easily did so against all the Bijuu. There's several other abilities that he didn't use even though they would have been very effective.

During the Final Rasengan and Chidori clash, instead of using Enton Chidori, he could have extended his Chidori as he and Naruto were charging towards each other, then slash him.



In his battle against Bee, from a distance and with little reaction time, he easily extended Chidori and it sliced through the Hachibi's tentacle like butter.

This/the next page.



Or he could have used Chidori Spear or Senbon to hit Naruto from a distance.



There was no need to get in close range with Enton Chidori.

But Kishimoto likes his Rasengan and Chidori clashes. Can't end without it.

If he's going to attack from close up then Chidori Stream is best suited for that. It's both an attack and defense.



Chidori Nagashi

Correct.

You people still think that sasuke is weak without sword smh
See the above? Sasuke could have killed Naruto with or without mastery of his Rinnegan and or his Sword.
 
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Indeed! Sasuke should have simply thrown those useless chakra vessels at that blond jinchuriki and smashed him.

And the infinite ammo bracelets would have came in handy he could infinitely shoot naruto to death in close range. And bury Naruto with the bracelts to infinitely solo him.
This guy gets it.

You reply to quick. Missed my edit, "He easily could have.

Your counter is the non-existent page which states Sasuke for some reason can't enter his mind with the 6 Tomoe Rinnegan even though he did so with the 3 Tomoe Sharingan."

The location they were in was never given a name. So i referred to it by it's setting - a blank white space. Nothing more. When i say white space you know exactly what i mean. But i see you're just joking on purpose.

I never said Sasuke would use Genjutsu on Kaguya. I literally never even thought about that til now considering how ridiculous it is.




He didnt notice that Naruto was gathering NE til he was almost finished. Even if he did then he likely would have let him. After all, he was trying to push Naruto to fight seriously. Sasuke wanted a good fight, not a one sided slaughter. That is the only in story reason we could make as to why he didn't just enter Naruto's mind, and own the Kyuubi as soon as the battle started.




The only other stuff Naruto had was using creating a massive amount of Shadow Clones, and using the other Bijuus powers to create different RasenShuriken. But instead of doing that, he went above by using the Bijuus strongest technique, the Bijuubomb several times. And the more clones he makes, the more he divides his power. So that's not effective either.

@bold

Damn, you and NextGenNinja are bringing up good points. This was some of the stuff i've already had in mind when i said Sasuke was restricted from ultilizing his abilities to his full advantage. I'll go ahead and go into detail since you brought it up.


Against Itachi Sasuke summoned and threw a massive amount of Shuriken within seconds.

This and the next few pages.





Against Naruto he only summoned and threw 3 Shuriken literally as he was falling to the ground, which each took out an entire clone. Then he got up activated Chidori and charged at what he thought was the real Naruto. Upon being hit the clone disappeared and he was punched by the real Naruto.

This/the next page



Instead of charging at him with Chidori, he could have easily summoned more Shurikens and safely threw them from a distance. That's efficient. He would conserve chakra and physical energy, and wouldn't have to worry about being hit himself.


Aside from not using Genjutsu, Chibaku Tensei, and Bansho Tenin on Naruto, even though he easily did so against all the Bijuu. There's several other abilities that he didn't use even though they would have been verh effective.

During the Final Rasengan and Chidori clash, instead of using Enton Chidori, Sasuke could have extended his Chidori as he and Naruto were charging towards each other, then slash him.



In his battle against Bee, from a distance and with little reaction time, he easily extended Chidori and it sliced through the Hachibi's tentacle like butter.

This/the next page.



Or he could have used Chidori Spear or Senbon to hit Naruto from a distance.



There was no need to get in close range with Enton Chidori.

If he's going to attack from close up then Chidori Stream is best suited for that. It's both an attack and defense.

We can go in detail and point out many ways that last battle would've ended, hell thunder storms were present after their clash and had Sasuke used even a mini Kirin that time, Naruto would have been Narutoast.

Black chidori had shown better paralysis powers than normal chidori and it's able to stop JJ madara movement and Core CT pretty much impossible to escape and not to mention he can teleport and use jutsu up with his PS. (Just imagine PS Chidori spear rinne blitz)

KishI pretty much drove himself into a corner with Sasuke and his broken combined techniques.
 
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