Who saved the shinobi world?

who saved the shinobi world?


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1. What? itachi don't even know what's Sasuke plan. Stop putting words in Naruto's mouth.

2. Lol.....This is rich....Wrong...Naruto is the most powerful jin. No matter how you look at it..People are listening to him for one of the following reason. 1. they like him. 2. they don't want to be killed or be on his bad side. Naruto will not allow a criminal to be executed no matter what the crime is unless it is the only way to stop that criminal. Naruto is about all about enduring. Shit how you not see that! You honestly think he will act like 2,3rd,4, 5 hoakge? He is like the 1st hokage! Do not kill unless there is no other way for sure.

What you're saying is defeating the purpose of Naruto. Naruto wants EVERYBODY to work together. You can see that with Kabuto. He didn't prisoned Kabuto. Kabuto is the finest example of what kind of Hokage Naruto is. So advisors, the fire feudal lord, and the council can't tell him no if Naruto want to do something stupid. Wait, they can tell him no but they can't make him.

If you read the NV history, you will see the first war broke out after the 1st hokage's death. When he was alive, no other nations wanted to wage wars. Because they knew they will ended up dead like Madara. It was only after Hashi's death, the first ninja war took place in a heart beat.

3. Weeks ago, I tried to prove that Naruto did try to kill Kakuza...But nartuo's top lawyers said no! Then after 2 pages of arguments, we agreed that Plot never allowed Naruto to get his hands dirty. Plot made sure that it was always somebody else doing the dirty work to keep naruto's hands clean. You should know that better than anyone else. Kishi never allowed Naruto to get blood on his hands. That is one of the major reason why a lot people don't like the character Naruto. Just can't like a hero, who never had blood on their hands.

Actually try reading what Itachi said to Naruto, he says when a person becomes too powerful they become obsessed with themselves and end up like Madara. Sasuke said he has the power to make people do what he wants which is what Madara tried to do with power too; to control people. Itachi said this to Naruto after he said he'll take up the war all by himself which is not even as high as trying to rule over all 5 nations and control people . Sasuke said Itachi had to live in the darkness with his bitter experiences but Itachi only took the blame so it wouldn't tarnish the Uchiha clan honor . Itachi could have had Hiruzen or Tsunade clear his name while he was alive and built a new Uchiha clan which is what current Sasuke is slowly doing.

Sasuke said Itachi's one mistake was not telling him, Itachi did say he should have told Sasuke but only because he did everything alone which is why he failed; he said this himself and thought maybe Sasuke could have changed their father's mind. Sasuke was talking about doing things himself which is something Itachi does not agree with to the point that he told Naruto not to do it himself and mentions how he doing things himself is one of the reasons he failed at what he tried to do while saying Minato became Hokage because he did not forget Kushina or his comrades while Sasuke said he does not care what others thought about him and how he will delete the past and .

Hashirama was called the God of Shinobi, held as the strongest of his time and had Bijuus 2-9 under his control yet no one listened to him because of his power but because of his heart. In the very first Kage meetings the other Kages didn't just agree with Hashirama who even lowered his head and begged them to agree to peace while also offering them Bijuus. If people agree with Naruto then it would be because they think he's right, if Naruto wanted to do something but someone like Shikamaru, Kakashi, or anyone didn't think it can be exactly as Naruto wants then they would have told him but Hokage Naruto isn't as dumb as he use to be. Why do you think Naruto didn't become Hokage until 12 years after the war? He was growing up and wasn't made Hokage until he was wise enough to handle the responsibilities. Naruto can decide to jail people who are criminals in his own village but he knows he have no power to say so for other villages; he can try convincing the other Kage but I'm sure all Kages made set of new laws that they all use since they have more Kage meetings to discuss things than they use too.

Exactly, if he's deciding everything himself then how is everyone working together? Except that we don't know what happened in those 12 years but seeing how Sasuke was forgiven for helping then Orochimaru was forgiven because he helped with the 4 Edo Hokages and saving the 5 Kages while Kabuto was forgiven because Danzo made him go on the path he did and because he saved Sasuke who helped break IT. Both were only forgiven if the Kages believed they changed which both have just like Sasuke did.

Hashirama gave away Bijuus to ensure peace amongst the 5 villages, after Hashirama died it was Tobirama who was Kage; the other Kages could have changed as well or at least some of them could have. Old man Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages yet Konoha was in wars, cloud tried provoking them 2x, and Suna try attacking with the sound village. Only reason Kakuza survived was because he had multiple hearts and FRS wasn't completed; Naruto was going in for the kill. Yes plot prevented Naruto from killing but that's on Kishi; Naruto did kill some White Zetsus which are living creatures.
 

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Actually try reading what Itachi said to Naruto, he says when a person becomes too powerful they become obsessed with themselves and end up like Madara. Sasuke said he has the power to make people do what he wants which is what Madara tried to do with power too; to control people. Itachi said this to Naruto after he said he'll take up the war all by himself which is not even as high as trying to rule over all 5 nations and control people . Sasuke said Itachi had to live in the darkness with his bitter experiences but Itachi only took the blame so it wouldn't tarnish the Uchiha clan honor . Itachi could have had Hiruzen or Tsunade clear his name while he was alive and built a new Uchiha clan which is what current Sasuke is slowly doing.

Sasuke said Itachi's one mistake was not telling him, Itachi did say he should have told Sasuke but only because he did everything alone which is why he failed; he said this himself and thought maybe Sasuke could have changed their father's mind. Sasuke was talking about doing things himself which is something Itachi does not agree with to the point that he told Naruto not to do it himself and mentions how he doing things himself is one of the reasons he failed at what he tried to do while saying Minato became Hokage because he did not forget Kushina or his comrades while Sasuke said he does not care what others thought about him and how he will delete the past and .

Hashirama was called the God of Shinobi, held as the strongest of his time and had Bijuus 2-9 under his control yet no one listened to him because of his power but because of his heart. In the very first Kage meetings the other Kages didn't just agree with Hashirama who even lowered his head and begged them to agree to peace while also offering them Bijuus. If people agree with Naruto then it would be because they think he's right, if Naruto wanted to do something but someone like Shikamaru, Kakashi, or anyone didn't think it can be exactly as Naruto wants then they would have told him but Hokage Naruto isn't as dumb as he use to be. Why do you think Naruto didn't become Hokage until 12 years after the war? He was growing up and wasn't made Hokage until he was wise enough to handle the responsibilities. Naruto can decide to jail people who are criminals in his own village but he knows he have no power to say so for other villages; he can try convincing the other Kage but I'm sure all Kages made set of new laws that they all use since they have more Kage meetings to discuss things than they use too.

Exactly, if he's deciding everything himself then how is everyone working together? Except that we don't know what happened in those 12 years but seeing how Sasuke was forgiven for helping then Orochimaru was forgiven because he helped with the 4 Edo Hokages and saving the 5 Kages while Kabuto was forgiven because Danzo made him go on the path he did and because he saved Sasuke who helped break IT. Both were only forgiven if the Kages believed they changed which both have just like Sasuke did.

Hashirama gave away Bijuus to ensure peace amongst the 5 villages, after Hashirama died it was Tobirama who was Kage; the other Kages could have changed as well or at least some of them could have. Old man Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages yet Konoha was in wars, cloud tried provoking them 2x, and Suna try attacking with the sound village. Only reason Kakuza survived was because he had multiple hearts and FRS wasn't completed; Naruto was going in for the kill. Yes plot prevented Naruto from killing but that's on Kishi; Naruto did kill some White Zetsus which are living creatures.

Again.....Itachi don't know what's Sasuke plan. I know what you're saying. But you stated that itachi said Sasuke's plan is wrong. You put words in Itachi's mouth. Sasuke's plan was pull a lelouch move but don't die. Become the controllable darkness of the shinobi world. That's all. Get over it.

Again...The kages wasn't forgiving toward Sasuke, orc, kabuto. They all had no choice really. Plus Naruto asked them to. If they had said no, what they gonna do? Orc. and Kabuto can bring Madara back in a heart beat if they wanted to. And Sasuke? lmao..Who gonna stop him? Naruto? ha plzzz. They all had no choice but to STFU and sit down. But Raikage....Can't trust his ass.. We learned in the "Last Movie" he created a freaking chakra cannon weapon. Onoki called him out on it!

Bottom line, Hokage Naruto is acting like 3rd Hokage but got the power to back it up unlike 3rd Hokage.

Naruto did kill some White Zetsus which are living creatures........lmao. I'ma rep+ you for that.
 
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The real hero of this manga is solo rock
 

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Where is our lord Teuchi ?
without ramen our lord Naruto wont survive and we dont have the Hero.
 

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Believe DB tried to retcon that by calling sasuke a child of prophecy. Guess boy with strong eyes was also a child of prophecy..... Zzz

Yea can’t sakura be one as well:|
Fact the Toad Sage said Naruto the child of Prophecy would battle a Young Man with powers in His eyes(Sasuke) So don’t go changing what you do not have legal rights to change by Law. Only Kishi has the legal rights to Naruto and its content.
 

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Again.....Itachi don't know what's Sasuke plan. I know what you're saying. But you stated that itachi said Sasuke's plan is wrong. You put words in Itachi's mouth. Sasuke's plan was pull a lelouch move but don't die. Become the controllable darkness of the shinobi world. That's all. Get over it.

Again...The kages wasn't forgiving toward Sasuke, orc, kabuto. They all had no choice really. Plus Naruto asked them to. If they had said no, what they gonna do? Orc. and Kabuto can bring Madara back in a heart beat if they wanted to. And Sasuke? lmao..Who gonna stop him? Naruto? ha plzzz. They all had no choice but to STFU and sit down. But Raikage....Can't trust his ass.. We learned in the "Last Movie" he created a freaking chakra cannon weapon. Onoki called him out on it!

Bottom line, Hokage Naruto is acting like 3rd Hokage but got the power to back it up unlike 3rd Hokage.

Naruto did kill some White Zetsus which are living creatures........lmao. I'ma rep+ you for that.

I said Itachi doesn't agree with it because much of Sasuke plan goes against what Itachi said to Naruto was something he shouldn't do; therefore Itachi disagree with such things. Itachi was a pacifist who didn't kill unless he needed to, that's one of the reasons why Itachi always used genjutsu to end fights before they start; another reason is because Itachi was sick and would die if he pushed his body too far. Sasuke wants to do everything himself which Itachi did not agree with and told Naruto not to do and he did not like the fact that Naruto getting stronger made him want to do everything himself because power can make one obsessed with oneself which is what Sasuke incorporated in his plan. Using this knowledge, we know Itachi would agree or like Sasuke's plan which is why i said that and is why Naruto thought of what Edo Itacho said to him as Sasuke said what he said.

You say that as if Lelouch did the right thing, had Lelouch told the rebels who he really was after they trusted Zero then his brother wouldn't be able to make them turn on Lelouch as they did. Lelouch only made it right by turning everyone's hate to him then dying but Sasuke way is wrong because he is planning to keep ruling them with power while Lelouch only did it for the results he got with his death; he didn't want to rule over others like that.

Yes they all had a choice, they could have still choose to imprison or kill them if they choose just like A did with Sasuke when Naruto begged him. When K11 asked if Naruto is trying to protect Sasuke after they said they want to kill him Naruto did try talking them out of it, only asked to let him handle it. Naruto will side with the village over Sasuke, if Sasuke goes against the Kages then Naruto will fight on their behave and this time he has full Kurama and Hashirama's cells boosting his power even higher. Anyways Sasuke would accept the punishment as redemption if it was imprisonment which is what Kakashi said it was. They'll bring back Edo Rinnegan Madara who gets sealed by Naruto then Naruto kills Orochimaru and/or Kabuto so no I don't see them even attempting to go against Naruto. Also Orochimaru saved Tsunade by having Karin heal her who in turn healed The other 4 Kages so they would be dead without Orochimaru help. Orochimaru crimes mostly surrounds Konoha and Suna since we see him do most damage to them from what we see so Tsunade and Gaara would have most reasons to disagree.

Except that Hiruzen as an old man was stated by Kabuto to be the strongest of the 5 Kages which consist of Hiruzen, A, Oonoki, Gaara's dad, and either the 4th Mizukage or Mei. Hiruzen clearly had the power, he knows all of Konoha's jutsus (non-KKG), and was well in his high 60's at this time; Naruto is currently in his prime and is the Jinchuurikis of all Bijuus.
 

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I said Itachi doesn't agree with it because much of Sasuke plan goes against what Itachi said to Naruto was something he shouldn't do; therefore Itachi disagree with such things. Itachi was a pacifist who didn't kill unless he needed to, that's one of the reasons why Itachi always used genjutsu to end fights before they start; another reason is because Itachi was sick and would die if he pushed his body too far. Sasuke wants to do everything himself which Itachi did not agree with and told Naruto not to do and he did not like the fact that Naruto getting stronger made him want to do everything himself because power can make one obsessed with oneself which is what Sasuke incorporated in his plan. Using this knowledge, we know Itachi would agree or like Sasuke's plan which is why i said that and is why Naruto thought of what Edo Itacho said to him as Sasuke said what he said.

You say that as if Lelouch did the right thing, had Lelouch told the rebels who he really was after they trusted Zero then his brother wouldn't be able to make them turn on Lelouch as they did. Lelouch only made it right by turning everyone's hate to him then dying but Sasuke way is wrong because he is planning to keep ruling them with power while Lelouch only did it for the results he got with his death; he didn't want to rule over others like that.

Yes they all had a choice, they could have still choose to imprison or kill them if they choose just like A did with Sasuke when Naruto begged him. When K11 asked if Naruto is trying to protect Sasuke after they said they want to kill him Naruto did try talking them out of it, only asked to let him handle it. Naruto will side with the village over Sasuke, if Sasuke goes against the Kages then Naruto will fight on their behave and this time he has full Kurama and Hashirama's cells boosting his power even higher. Anyways Sasuke would accept the punishment as redemption if it was imprisonment which is what Kakashi said it was. They'll bring back Edo Rinnegan Madara who gets sealed by Naruto then Naruto kills Orochimaru and/or Kabuto so no I don't see them even attempting to go against Naruto. Also Orochimaru saved Tsunade by having Karin heal her who in turn healed The other 4 Kages so they would be dead without Orochimaru help. Orochimaru crimes mostly surrounds Konoha and Suna since we see him do most damage to them from what we see so Tsunade and Gaara would have most reasons to disagree.

Except that Hiruzen as an old man was stated by Kabuto to be the strongest of the 5 Kages which consist of Hiruzen, A, Oonoki, Gaara's dad, and either the 4th Mizukage or Mei. Hiruzen clearly had the power, he knows all of Konoha's jutsus (non-KKG), and was well in his high 60's at this time; Naruto is currently in his prime and is the Jinchuurikis of all Bijuus.

DUDE STOP FANFIC-ING! Them villages wouldn't gonna do shit to Sasuke, Orochimaru and Kabuto. Naruto wouldn't side with the village to get rid of Sasuke, Orochimaru or kabuto. he said he is not gonna be the person to kill Sasuke! he is on the forgiving shit period! Again, you're defeating the purpose of Naruto!
 
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