Who said Hiruzen was the strongest???

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  • I Agree Hashirama>Hiruzen

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  • I Disagree Hiruzen>Hashirama

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Well played. The fact of the matter is that the power scaling was different in Part I then Part II. No need for quotes from Part I, with Iruka, a man who never saw Hashirama, say Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

You morons did not realise I was saying Hashi had the better title. :sy: You just read the title. who ever thought I meant Hiruzen is a fool.
 
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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Hashirama/Madara: Myths/Mini REAL Gods (as in gods that create things /people could not believe their strength, they thought it was a "Myth")

Hiruzen: God of shinobi (Shinobi's are human)

We can obviously see who has the greater title.

Hashirama Obiously!!!
This thread basically says
hiruzens god of shinobi - was the strongest to shinobis
Hashirama was a myth - Was a legendary god like zeus, sage of six paths and others were myths
+rep, we can see who's title is better. xd
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

What are titles worth when Hiruzen was already called the strongest?
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

What are titles worth when Hiruzen was already called the strongest?
Hiruzen was called the strongest shinobi. when we talk about madara,hashirama......so6p we are entering powers so strong they were considered myths, people thought they were just stories. Kakashi thought the so6p was just a myth and know human could possible be this strong.

So as we can see being considered a myth is better then being considered the strongest shinobi because when you get as strong as hashi and madara people start to believe that these were just stories and there is no way they could be that strong.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

This thread basically says
hiruzens god of shinobi - was the strongest to shinobis
Hashirama was a myth - Was a legendary god like zeus, sage of six paths and others were myths
+rep, we can see who's title is better. xd
Someone who is not an utter idiot and could see that I was saying hashirama was the strongest. Thanks for the +rep.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Hashirama/Madara: Myths/Mini REAL Gods (as in gods that create things /people could not believe their strength, they thought it was a "Myth")

Hiruzen: God of shinobi (Shinobi's are human)

We can obviously see who has the greater title.

Hashirama Obiously!!!
The statement was made by a shinobi who had never seen hashi fight, and hardly ever seen more than a bandit skirmish. Plus most shinobi dont even know the name madara.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Confusing presentation.

That being said, I'm still of the group that believes that Hashirama > Hiruzen

I think Hiruzen knew more abilities and maybe even mastered more, but he did not have the sheer power of Hashirama.
Actually, your right, but it doesn't matter.

Kabuto statement: "The People That Heard About His Strength Consider Him A Fairy Tale Just Like The Rikudou Sennin."

That statement alone shows you that his ability to control Mokuton was unparalleled and consider fairy tale just like the Sage, that is even more feat that considers his strength is beyond Hurizen.

Also, besides, the power back than was on a different scale as stated from Madara so I can't blame Hurizen for being weak in strength, Prime or not. <LOL> Even the Five previous Kage for that matter.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Hiruzen was called the strongest shinobi. when we talk about madara,hashirama......so6p we are entering powers so strong they were considered myths, people thought they were just stories. Kakashi thought the so6p was just a myth and know human could possible be this strong.

So as we can see being considered a myth is better then being considered the strongest shinobi because when you get as strong as hashi and madara people start to believe that these were just stories and there is no way they could be that strong.
Hiruzen was called the strongest hokage. That is a direct comparison with all the hokages before him; Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Hiruzen was called the strongest hokage. That is a direct comparison with all the hokages before him; Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato.
Yh kabuto said this and this was also part 1 maybe kishi decided to change things. Funny it was also kabuto that called hashirama a fairy tail like the so6p. And once again fairy tail which means everyone probably believed that hiruzen was the strongest hokage because they thought hashirama was a fair tail and his powers were just stories.

But let's forget all that, HAVE YOU SEEN MADARA!! this is god like powers and he said only hashirama could beat him. Now I think I know why people thought hashirama's powers was a myth because they could simply not believe a human can have these god like powers.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Who exactly called him the strongest hokage, hmmmm?
Kabuto and then recently he called said Hashirama was known as a fairy tail. The only reason people called Hiruzen the strongest is because they thought Hashirama's powers was just a fairy tail and not real.
 

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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

People called Hiruzen the strongest Hokage/God of Shinobi.
People also called Hashirama the best/strongest Shinobi.
It's hype from these villagers that obviously "praise" their saviour.
Rikudo Sennin was also called God of Shinobi, why? Because he defeated the Juubi (saved the world).

Kabuto and then recently he called said Hashirama was known as a fairy tail. The only reason people called Hiruzen the strongest is because they thought Hashirama's powers was just a fairy tail and not real.
Kabuto said he was the strongest kage not Hokage.
 
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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

People called Hiruzen the strongest Hokage/God of Shinobi.
People also called Hashirama the best/strongest Shinobi.
It's hype from these villagers that obviously "praise" their saviour.
Rikudo Sennin was also called God of Shinobi, why? Because he defeated the Juubi (saved the world).



Kabuto said he was the strongest kage not Hokage.
Yes ur right, ppl also says chuck norris never flushes toilet cos he scares the shit out of them xd

Also since SO6P and hizune has the near same title that means: SO6P=Hizune
 
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Re: Clearing up Hiruzen > Hashirama (Simple Version)

Um,I thought after seeing the overpowered Godlike Susano'o V3 and the fact that Hashirama defeated it, Hashi is clearly the stronger then Hiruzen. Anyone who says otherwise shouldn't post.
 
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