Who mastered their dojutsu more?

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Obito's MS ability is the best but as far as mastering the Sharingan itself, Itachi takes this.

lol how? please explain to me because obito has the best sharingan feats in the manga infact theres already a thread on this.

 

[Sound]

Mastering Sharingan? Obito by feats.

He controlled Kurama at 14, controlled 6 tailed beasts at the same time,
a Perfect Jin for years, performed the Perfect Izanagi.
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[AlphaScythian]

Obito's MS ability is the best but as far as mastering the Sharingan itself, Itachi takes this.

Genjutsu perfect jin with regular sharingan.
Hacking another dimensions.
Able to see nano bombs whilst sasuke could with CM2.
Controlling kurama with 3T.
Using kamui with 3T.

I dont see where itachi mastered his sharingan.

 

[Ashura San]

I named three things itachi has yes I said it very clearly... meanwhile obito has.

sharingan genjutsu, mangekyo sharingan genjutsu, kamui mastery, kamui snipe mastery, perfect susanoo(which itachi can never have ), izanagi, uchiha kenjutsu, rinnegan.. etc

Sharingan/MS genjutsu is a given. He's Uchiha. You can't say Kamui mastery then Kamui snipe mastery. Stop trying to make his list longer. And kenjutsu has nothing to do with Sharingan mastery. Lel

 

[Sasori no Kami]

That's kinda tough, being that Madara mastered Perfect Susanoo and mastered several rinnegan abilities. Itachi did master his Tsukuyomi to incomparable levels, and did take the sharingan to its highest peak. Madara had Izanagi, Itachi had Izanami. Hmm..

 

[Lightbringer]

Ha lol

First off Sasuke mastered it quicker than both since he literally only had his EMS for 2 days. Itachi never obtained PS and needs to charge amaterasu for a while in order to cast it unlike Sasuke.

Sasuke can even manipulate amaterasu to create different shapes with it.

Itachi also gets backlash from his Sharingan techniques.

Neither Madara, Sasuke, nor Obito get backlash and they make techniques on a much larger scale than Itachi has ever achieved.

 

[Ashura San]

Mastering Sharingan? Obito by feats.

He controlled Kurama at 14, controlled 6 tailed beasts at the same time,
a Perfect Jin for years, performed the Perfect Izanagi.
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Using genjutsu on tailed beasts isn't mastering the Sharingan. It's using genjutsu
And do you have a scan of him using Izanagi? I don't recall.

 

[Ashura San]

Genjutsu perfect jin with regular sharingan.
Hacking another dimensions.
Able to see nano bombs whilst sasuke could with CM2.
Controlling kurama with 3T.
Using kamui with 3T.

I dont see where itachi mastered his sharingan.

Itachi was a top tier feared ninja with 3 tomoe. Yes, Obito's MS ability is the best MS ability there is but we're not talking about mastering a specific ability that can only be achieved through MS.
And when was he able to use Kamui w/ 3T?

 

[Sound]

Using genjutsu on tailed beasts isn't mastering the Sharingan. It's using genjutsu
And do you have a scan of him using Izanagi? I don't recall.

First 2 sentences are an epic failure so not going to bother replying to that.
But then that's to be expected from someone who doesn't read the manga.

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[CDT23]

I named three things itachi has yes I said it very clearly... meanwhile obito has.

sharingan genjutsu, mangekyo sharingan genjutsu, kamui mastery, kamui snipe mastery, perfect susanoo(which itachi can never have ), izanagi, uchiha kenjutsu, rinnegan.. etc

He didnt have snipe, no perf susanoo he didnt perform it, cant have kamui mastery if he didnt have both, ms genjutsu and sharingan genjutsu are basically the same thing, lol at the rest of the list. Izanagj is a waste of an eye move. He would have never used it if it was his own eye. Itachi can most likely use it as he did izanami but he never needed to use it. Also making the list longer with bs feats doesnt realy make him better. How does kenijutsu make his sharingan mastery better? Also Itach is shown to be great with the sword, in fact he killed his whole clan with one.

 

[Sasori no Kami]

Isn't tjisxa question between Madara and Itachi? In all fairness, Obito had senju DNA, which was why he was able to master Izanagi and use his Kamui and genjutsu at such a high level. But Obito did play a part in that, how much of has not been revealed.

 

[CDT23]

Ha lol

First off Sasuke mastered it quicker than both since he literally only had his EMS for 2 days. Itachi never obtained PS and needs to charge amaterasu for a while in order to cast it unlike Sasuke.

Sasuke can even manipulate amaterasu to create different shapes with it.

Itachi also gets backlash from his Sharingan techniques.

Neither Madara, Sasuke, nor Obito get backlash and they make techniques on a much larger scale than Itachi has ever achieved.

But guess what they all had in common that Itachi doesnt have? Well first off Hashi cells and handed powers with barely any training. Madara displayed no jutsu with is ms, only after his brothers death did he pull out susano, Sasuke has the most given upgrade in shippuden... Kabuto was litterally pumping upgrades into him, Obitos MS was triggered by Madara and he was handed powers by Madara. They never mastered their eyes, they got help. Guess who gave Sasuke his biggest upgrade? No ems = no Rinnegan or sharinnegan

 

[Ashura San]

First 2 sentences are an epic failure so not going to bother replying to that.
But then that's to be expected from someone who doesn't read the manga.

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Nah dude reply to them. I'm not one of the douches on here who can't admit to being wrong.
I just don't see how using genjutsu on a beast means you've mastered it.

When Kuruma attached the leaf the Uchiha clan was suspected. Not shisui, or Itachi or whoever was the top tier Uchiha then. Obviously anyone with 3T can do it. That's just how I see it. If there's some proof then please prove me wrong.

 

[Sound]

Nah dude reply to them. I'm not one of the douches on here who can't admit to being wrong.
I just don't see how using genjutsu on a beast means you've mastered it.

When Kuruma attached the leaf the Uchiha clan was suspected. Not shisui, or Itachi or whoever was the top tier Uchiha then. Obviously anyone with 3T can do it. That's just how I see it. If there's some proof then please prove me wrong.

It's skill. Furthermore he controlled 6 bijuus at the same time.
Itachi can't control a beast without Mangekyo [

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]stated in the fight against Sasuke U_U​

 

[AlphaScythian]

Itachi was a top tier feared ninja with 3 tomoe. Yes, Obito's MS ability is the best MS ability there is but we're not talking about mastering a specific ability that can only be achieved through MS.
And when was he able to use Kamui w/ 3T?

Like all the time b4 war arc.

 

[Ashura San]

It's skill. Furthermore he controlled 6 bijuus at the same time.
Itachi can't control a beast without Mangekyo [

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]stated in the fight against Sasuke U_U​

He was speaking in general in that scan.
I can't believe you said skill, implying Itachi isn't skilled w/ his Sharingan.

Itachi, so far, is the smartest Uchiha. I believe he's the most skilled with his Sharingan

 

[Bronze]

Madara's mastery over the Sharingan allowed him to achieve control over a Bijuu with 3 tomoe, the ability to see through Kage: Bunshin which even Byakugan can't, and gain a Choku Tomoe which Mangekyou standards don't have. Madara outclasses Itachi both in raw power and skill, even when it comes to their natural ability.​

 

[Ashura San]

Madara's mastery over the Sharingan allowed him to achieve control over a Bijuu with 3 tomoe, the ability to see through Kage: Bunshin which even Byakugan can't, and gain a Choku Tomoe which Mangekyou standards don't have. Madara outclasses Itachi both in raw power and skill, even when it comes to their natural ability.​

Obito did that. Controlling a biju isn't a feat. It's stated all throughout the manga the two ways to control a biju.
Wood style and Sharingan.
He was most likely born with a straight tomoe. Sasuke also has this and isn't as experienced with the Sharingan as him.

As far as seeing the clones, that could be mastery over it but he doesn't outclass Itachi like you stated.

 

[Sound]

He was speaking in general in that scan.
I can't believe you said skill,implying Itachi isn't skilled w/ his Sharingan.

Itachi, so far, is the smartest Uchiha. I believe he's the most skilled with his Sharingan

That's some great A bullshit you made up.

Itachi needs Mangekyo to control Tailed Beasts stated in the scan
I provided while only Obito and Madara can control bijuus with 3 tomoe.

Give it up both Madara & Obito are more skilled .​

 

[Ashura San]

That's some great A bullshit you made up.

Itachi needs Mangekyo to control Tailed Beasts stated in the scan
I provided while only Obito and Madara can control bijuus with 3 tomoe.

Give it up both Madara & Obito are more skilled .​

XD No. The scan said MS is needed to control biju. It didn't say "Itachi as an individula needs MS to control a biju"

And Madara and Obito both possessed MS when they controlled Kuruma.

It's possible that once you've awakened MS you can control a biju, not needing to actually activate MS.