Who is worse: Tobirama or Madara?

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Tobirama explains it all.
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Look at how easy Obito got roped into to murder and starting a world war. All for a girl that never told him she even liked him.
Crazy is in the Uchiha gene.

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^Note Itachi isn't crazy or have the curse of hatred and even he can pull off the crazy face.
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Idk i feel both of there hatred is valid. They both come from a different era and they both hated one another.

I dont feel like Tobirama was a bad guy. He only hated the Uchiha because of that era he lived in. (Not everyone is forgiving)

Madara is by far worse because he targeted everyone.
 
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" -created Edo tensei "

He has created Edo Tensei to use Gojo Kibaku Fuda , it's not his sin if Orochimaru or Kabuto use this jutsu to reanimate powerful shinobi for their interest.

Ortherwise Kakashi would be guilty to have created Raikiri and Chidori because this jutsu can potentially to be used by bad shinobi.
 
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" Killed Izuna "

It's the war , Tobirama make his job .

What happenned if Madara would have killed Tobirama ? Hashirama would become a devil ? No i don't think .

Kakashi has lost Obito and Rin , Kakashi is he become a bad shinobi ? NO !

Naruto has lost his parents and his master , is he become a bad shinobi ? NO !

Shika - Ino - Cho have lost Asuma and their parents , are they become bad shinobi ? NO !

Iruka has lost his parents during Kyuubi Attack , is he become full of hate against Naruto ? NO !

Hiruzen has lost his wife during Tobi attack , is he become full of hate ? NO !

Madara has lost Izuna and his other brother , is he become a bad shinobi ? YES !

Obito has lost Rin , is he become a bad shinobi ? YES

Sasuke has lost his family , is he become a bad shinobi ? YES

Sasuke case is comprehensible i admit , but not Madara and Obito case.



When you are soldier. You know that you can die ou that your comrad can die.

Those Konoha shinobi want peace , not Uchiha who want only the war , the confrontation , the hate .

Tobirama has totally reason , totally.

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If I am being idealistic like Hashirama you are like Sasuke when he just discovered the truth about Itachi, refusing to acknowledge the village twisted system and how its leaders failed.
Want to see an insult directed at an Uchiha? It's here (there are worse versions, but here you go) You can't say that's a pragmatic vision.

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And yes, the Police force was a way of prejudice against the Uchiha, and it has been stated by: Orochimaru and Obito. Hashirama even scolded Tobirama when he discovered that. Tobirama is being apologetic in the scan you posted.

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Right after that, our so realistic Tobirama didn't waist time and called Uchiha a clan possessed by evil.
There was discrimination. Otherwise story wouldn't have followed.
If not, please, answer me:why they were eliminated? Pure greed, I don't think so....
there is no way in hell you can justify tobirama being WORSE than madara uchiha
 

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I say mads, on the surface tobirama seems prejudice but in reality he never really said anything that untrue and completely bash the uchiha, he simply had an understanding of how their power worked and had legit concerns about the village based on the way they where. He even thought putting them as the police force was a GOOD idea
 

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Madara easily, he caused far much destruction for his selfish goals. Tobirama just made the already present rift between uchiha and senju bigger by treating the uchiha like they were guilty of something, despite future events.
 

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there is no way in hell you can justify tobirama being WORSE than madara uchiha
Actually this rant up there was something to explain how Tobirama had prejudice towards the Uchiha. I didn't intend to justify Madara's actions. But even if I tried to, Tobirama doesn't stop being the prejudiced person he is, just as Izuna were.
 
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