Who is top tier without any borrowed powers.

super michael

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Before I start I like to say credit goes to 万物流転 for getting this idea. I like to know the members opinion who are the strongest without any borrowed powers.

Those who have KKG, KKT, KKM, bloodline limit are considered not borrowed powers. Those who gets powers from stealing like Kabuto are borrowed powers, Kukazu who steals hearts, Jinchuuriki users except Gaara who lost Shukaku so its his own powers.

Sage mode isn't considered borrow powers.

Those who lost their borrowed powers are allowed to be listed here.
 

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if ppl who got power from stealing them shouldn't be listed, then this thread shouldn't have been made. If someone didn't steal power from another person, they most certainly stole it from the Shinju.
 

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Technically all shinobi use borrowed power aka chakra.
 
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kaguya
Might gai
DMS obito
Hashirama
MS madara(Knowing that he and izuna were troublesome to hashirama and tobiroma)
Itachi
Kisame
Tobiroma
Adult SM naruto
Adult MS sasuke
Minato

I guess, I might rearrange the order
 

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Madara actually took his brother's eyes cause it's his after izuna's death. The eyes technically belong to madara. He stole hashirama's power after a death battle. It's not like hashirama just appeared to him and gave him power (like some others). He had to wait decades before the power even manifested. After it manifested he made all his plans to get more power. At the end he fought nine bijuus and defeated them all and took their power.

I think madara never had borrowed power in the real sense. He struggled for every power he got, and took the power by force from his opponent (except izuna who was already dead) and they could do nothing to stop him.
 

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if ppl who got power from stealing them shouldn't be listed, then this thread shouldn't have been made. If someone didn't steal power from another person, they most certainly stole it from the Shinju.

I consider those born with KKG the same some people are more talented in one area than other. I don't think having KKG is borrowed, but I like your opinion

Technically all shinobi use borrowed power aka chakra.

Hmm everyone is born with chakra, the only thing is before Kaguya no one knew how to use chakra to do ninjutsu, Hagoromo taught how to do Ninshuu and Black Zetsu manipulating help people use chakra for Ninjutsu and enhance their own power.
 
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I swear this thread gets made once a day.

Hashirama, might gai, tsunada, ay, 3rd raikage, hidan, people like that
 

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Hashirama is the most powerful over all. 8 Gates Guy has the strongest destructive power for like 5 minutes.

Itachi/Minato are up there, but they're a tier below Hashirama.
 

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Naruto
The Last Showed his base form to be kage level
Taijutsu that could handle puppets strong enough to take out hiashi
One man rasenshuriken with more range
In gaiden he moved faster than a mangekyo sharingan user could react and saved sarada m chocho before shin could finish his attack
Base Naruto easily wiped out a troop of shins
Even in vote 2 naruto was fast enough to strikr sasuke before chidori landed
Having improved for at least3 years made him on another level
Sm Naruto now rapes
 

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lol @ the guy above Lucky. 8G Gai and Hashirama are the answers.
 

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Tobirama , minato, Hashirama, Hiruzen, Gai, Kisame? (Is samehada considered borrowed?), 3/4th Raikage, Tsunade, Izuna, SM Naruto
That's what I can think of right now
 
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