who is the strongest Sannin and why?
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Uchiha Paulsama
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everyone knows the answer its j man
he is the most versatile ninja in naruto imo
he has multiple frog summons
he has jutsu that even made itachi evade
and sage mode just tops it all off
he is the most versatile ninja in naruto imo
he has multiple frog summons
he has jutsu that even made itachi evade
and sage mode just tops it all off
MinatoFLASH
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Yes but the first sentence is incorrect. Some think Orochimaru wud win and some even think Tsunade wud win.
My vote would go to Orochimaru as being the strongest...not by a whole lot, rather it would be rather close between him and Jiraiya; but Oro winning out in the end
MMy reason why...it was Oro's life ambition to learn every single jutsu in the world, and even create some new ones of his own; which is one of the reasons he coveted the Uchihas. Given that he was such a great genius with more experience than most to boot, that he had accumulated and already learnt more jutsu than any or most shinobi by Part II; including both his Sannin counterparts.
Second, we do know that he & Jiraiya clashed one-on-one when Oro had defected from Konoha. Now this occured not too long after Hiruzen named Minato the 4th Hokage. Minato being just under 30 at the time, so either 28 or 29...it then stands to reason that both Oro &Jiraiya were atleast 14 yrs older than Minato given that Jiraiya was Minato's senei & the 12-16 yr age gap between pupil and master seems to be about standard in Naruto; So that would have put Jiraiya & Oro in their early 40s at the time they fought. Though sadly we didn't get to see the battle we do know J-man was beat. I made a point in establishing their ages cause in no way can we claim they weren't as powerful or strong back then. Someone in their 40s is well well past their prime. They were grown behind, powerful and experienced adults going at it. Not to say Jiraiay didn't learn a few tricks since; but just saying Oro already has a win
Then I look at their summons. Of all three Sannin boss summons, Oro's Manda was the most powerful. Even tho the Sannin themselves each may have had a handicap when all three last clashed there, their summons weren't yet still Manda not only was able to take on both Gamabunta and Katsuyu; but at seperate points in the fight was about to take them both out until one ran interference to save the other. So in the battle of the summons when not ganged up on Manda wins.
Then there was the battle against Naruto in Part II when Naruto unleashed his 4 tails mode. It was revealed by J-man that while facing this mode it was only the 2nd time he was faced with death. So while he was overwhelmed by Naruto in that form; Oro mmatched up not only equally but found the entire battle amusing; barely taking it seriously while in a weakening body His only regret was that the 2 yr time limit he has to stay in a body ran out at about the time. But as Kabuto described both Oro & Naruto as monsters.
So for me while the gap between Oro & Tsunade may be big; it's not that big between him and Jiraiya; but a small gap nonetheless
MMy reason why...it was Oro's life ambition to learn every single jutsu in the world, and even create some new ones of his own; which is one of the reasons he coveted the Uchihas. Given that he was such a great genius with more experience than most to boot, that he had accumulated and already learnt more jutsu than any or most shinobi by Part II; including both his Sannin counterparts.
Second, we do know that he & Jiraiya clashed one-on-one when Oro had defected from Konoha. Now this occured not too long after Hiruzen named Minato the 4th Hokage. Minato being just under 30 at the time, so either 28 or 29...it then stands to reason that both Oro &Jiraiya were atleast 14 yrs older than Minato given that Jiraiya was Minato's senei & the 12-16 yr age gap between pupil and master seems to be about standard in Naruto; So that would have put Jiraiya & Oro in their early 40s at the time they fought. Though sadly we didn't get to see the battle we do know J-man was beat. I made a point in establishing their ages cause in no way can we claim they weren't as powerful or strong back then. Someone in their 40s is well well past their prime. They were grown behind, powerful and experienced adults going at it. Not to say Jiraiay didn't learn a few tricks since; but just saying Oro already has a win
Then I look at their summons. Of all three Sannin boss summons, Oro's Manda was the most powerful. Even tho the Sannin themselves each may have had a handicap when all three last clashed there, their summons weren't yet still Manda not only was able to take on both Gamabunta and Katsuyu; but at seperate points in the fight was about to take them both out until one ran interference to save the other. So in the battle of the summons when not ganged up on Manda wins.
Then there was the battle against Naruto in Part II when Naruto unleashed his 4 tails mode. It was revealed by J-man that while facing this mode it was only the 2nd time he was faced with death. So while he was overwhelmed by Naruto in that form; Oro mmatched up not only equally but found the entire battle amusing; barely taking it seriously while in a weakening body His only regret was that the 2 yr time limit he has to stay in a body ran out at about the time. But as Kabuto described both Oro & Naruto as monsters.
So for me while the gap between Oro & Tsunade may be big; it's not that big between him and Jiraiya; but a small gap nonetheless
CronosDraconis
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I say J-man.... bc he can go into sage mode.... plus learned sealing jutsu's from the 4th.... oro is good but like I tell my friends if you have alot of techs.... its hard to fight bc of having to think of what jutsu to use against ur opp.... look at naruto and sasuke they took one jutsu and made it better!!
Naruto FanBASE
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having alot of jutsu dont make you powerful
and secondly like naruto he didnt want to fight orc but had to so he wont take it serious as he should
third he would never want to hurt naruto even if he is in his tailed beast form he was only trying to suppress it not fight him and Gamabunta is not jiraya's strongest summoning
firstly ur right. having alot of jutsus in-and-of-itself doesn't make you powerful. For example if you have two ninjas; ninja A & B. A mastered over40 jutsu but not a single one is more than C-rank at best. Ninja B only mastered 17 jutsus; half that of ninja A but 2 of B's jutsus are S-rank, 3 A-rank and 7 B-rank and the rest whatever...then clearly ninja B is the most powerful even tho he has half the # of jutsu. But you can rest a sure that a ninja like Orochimaru who's obsessed with power is only going to stockpile the most powerful and deadly of jutsus and seals B-rank and higher. The ninja with more A & B jutsus at his disposal is most certainly the more powerful
Secondly not wanting to fight and not taking a fight seriously are two completely different things. For example just like with Naruto & Sasuke's fight at the vOtE Naruto as much as admitted that wasn't the kind of fight he wanted to have but it didn't stop him from giving it all he had to keep his best friend from leaving. Naruto not only still gave the fight 110% he took himself to a level of power and effort he never had reached before; not even when he fought Neji and Gaara. J-man, giving how important Oro was to him, more than likely gave his fight everything he had to keep him from going anywhere.
Thirdly, J-man never wanted to kill Naruto. That's a far cry from not wanting to hurt. In fact if you're really training with the expectation of getting stronger and better like they were, someone's gonna to get seriously hurt. That's why for example, the legend Bruce Lee made it a rule when he trained his students that when they sparred there were going to be no pulled punches, no sparing gloves and no body protection: it was full contact fighting. Another example of training with the intention of bringing severe pain was Piccolo's training of Gohan, he'd beat him to a pulp. Back to Naruto; take almost every battle situation we've seen Itachi in. We've later learned that Itachi was a pacifist and pacifist hate fighting. Yet Itachi was so good an actor you'd think he was one of the greatest killers and beat mostly everyone he went against either to a pulp or very soundly. As Kakashi admitted, Itachi could have easily killed him when they first fought but didn't but didn't stop him from beating Kakashi down. When looking at Itachi's fight with Sasuke, he went all out; broke out Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi & Susanoo...3 of the most powerful and deadly techniques in all of the ninja world yet with still no intentions of killing Sasuke. In other words, just because Jiraiya didn't want to kill Naruto doesn't equate to holding back and not being able to beat down the person you're fighting.