Who is stronger ems sasuke or bujji naruto?

[Gerkak]

You have no proof of that.. Databook said PS is a MS jutsu..

Lel the same data book that said that only madara has PS? By using that book then EMS sasuke has no PS and therefore your attempt at supporting EMS sasuke in this discussion is meaningless due to him not having PS.

Don't bring that ridiculous book that claims temari can blow away the universe into this.

 

[Zee U]

Even if it doesn't get beheaded, the shock-wave would be more than enough to give Naruto a taste of his own medicine. The BD would explode there and then.

Doubt Naruto would even suffer the explosion before the sword cuts the chakra like butter along him.

I know, which is why I made that assertion. Naruto's chakra is like a tiny trickle before Kurama's chakra. How much mixing would even be there to warrant it enhancing the entirety of Chakra Kurama is putting out for BM? The whole thing makes zero sense to me.

Evidently it vastly influences the strenght of the avatar. Heck, KCM was more impressive than any Bijuu cloaks we had seen before from him, and it was only his chakra + Kurama's, taken forcefully. Them cooperating increases exponentially the strenght of the combined chakra in my opinion (and SM is a huge boost to Naruto's chakra. The stronger he gets in base, his strenght is even more). Anyway doubt Kishimoto even cares about these things, bet he just thought "hey, let's combine BM with SM, that's so cool!".

 

[Netflix and Chill]

You have no proof of that.. Databook said PS is a MS jutsu..

Amaterasu as well but Madara never showed it. The guy uses katons left and right but not once did he used Amaterasu.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

You mean Enton eating FRS? You mean Sasuke being more than capable to handle KCM Naruto on foot, because obviously Madara and Obito had such difficulty. Oh wait, they could even do so for BM Naruto. There goes his entire skill repertoire. FRS is not even a fast technique, given that Deva - who is not even a speedster - dodged it with ease and stabbed clones at the same time.

KCM Naruto couldn't even hit Raikage with it without manipulating it manually. And Raikage is considerably slower than 4th. The clones are dealt with by taking to air or bringing out V4 with Enton Jewel. Sasuke coats his Susano'o with Enton and FRS that hits it gets consumed. There you go.

I guess it was too much to ask you for scans...shoulda known.

 

[Zlatán]

BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke are more or less equal however Sasukes tactics and over skill destorys Naruto

EMS Sasuke can take Naruto high diff

 

[Gerkak]

Sasuke's base speed > Itachi's

What is this!?

 

[Shruikan]

Lel that was his second time using Amaterasu, his control surpassed Itachi's as we saw in the JJ Obito fight.

He can add it to pretty much all his attacks. TBH he does not even need PS to beat KCM. Itachi managed to match KCM Naruto in taijutsu. Sasuke's base speed > Itachi's

Clone's get negged by enton or PS, nothing KCM has can damage Sasuke's susano'o.

3rd Raikage tanked KCM's attacks you think PS can't?

Not to mention MS Sasuke alone was doing great against Third Raikage who Naruto matched with KCM.Ay was resorting to maneuvers like sacrificing his arm and was about to enter a Amaterasu pit till Gaara stopped him

 

[Gerkak]

I'm sorry but I have to admit it

Nearly dead itachi matched and in some cases out paced sasuke in speed. Edo itachi did the same during the kabuto fight how can sasuke have greater speed than him?

 

[Izanamı.]

BM Naruto mid diffs him

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Lel that was his second time using Amaterasu, his control surpassed Itachi's as we saw in the JJ Obito fight.

He can add it to pretty much all his attacks. TBH he does not even need PS to beat KCM. Itachi managed to match KCM Naruto in taijutsu. Sasuke's base speed > Itachi's

Clone's get negged by enton or PS, nothing KCM has can damage Sasuke's susano'o.

3rd Raikage tanked KCM's attacks you think PS can't?

Show me a scan of Sasuke's Amaterasu getting faster than the one he used on A.

Listen, not to be rude or anything but can you provide scans or at the very least proof...hard undeniable proof to back up your claims. That's the quickest way to shut me up. Believe it!

Btw I'm out and about and I'm using my iphone to reply so pardon my late responses.

 

[DHOH]

Amaterasu as well but Madara never showed it. The guy uses katons left and right but not once did he used Amaterasu.

Data book doesn't have madara as a user of Amaterasu.

 

[Retsu]

Haha damn. But that's because Kurama can use more amounts of chakra than Sasuke. In terms of potency Sasuke is stronger, but yes in terms of chakra as a whole Kurama is superior

Not true because it wasn't volume but the potency of jutsus it increased, Kakashi said that the first time it increased the potency 3 fold and when Naruto modified it, it supposedly increased by more.

 

[DHOH]

Lel the same data book that said that only madara has PS? By using that book then EMS sasuke has no PS and therefore your attempt at supporting EMS sasuke in this discussion is meaningless due to him not having PS.

Don't bring that ridiculous book that claims temari can blow away the universe into this.

Didn't the databook come out before Sasuke and Kakashi was ever shown using there's?

 

[Omar19992010]

BSM Naruto>BM Naruto>EMS Sasuke

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Data book doesn't madara as a user..

See...that's a slippery slope. Doesn't the DB state Amaterasu as a MS jutsu?

 

[shelke]

Doubt Naruto would even suffer the explosion before the sword cuts the chakra like butter along him.

Evidently it vastly influences the strenght of the avatar. Heck, KCM was more impressive than any Bijuu cloaks we had seen before from him, and it was only his chakra + Kurama's, taken forcefully. Them cooperating increases exponentially the strenght of the combined chakra in my opinion (and SM is a huge boost to Naruto's chakra. The stronger he gets in base, his strenght is even more). Anyway doubt Kishimoto even cares about these things, bet he just thought "hey, let's combine BM with SM, that's so cool!".

Good point. I give the fans here a benefit of the doubt anyway. I don't see the fruit surviving a direct hit from PS on his head.

Naruto never had any Base chakra to begin with. If you remember the seals scans, both Jiraiya and the Frog confirm that Kurama's chakra always trickled into his system. Even then, it didn't enhance him beyond what his own chakra didn't permit. What I mean to say is that BSM was blocked again and again by Obito. Had the power boost been exponential as most claim here, we would have seen a difference. Heck, some difference. But we didn't.

I agree. Kishimoto wasn't exactly thinking straight by that point.

I guess it was too much to ask you for scans...shoulda known.

I need to give you scans for Enton eating through FRS and Sasuke coating his Susano'o with it? Yeah, okay pal.

 

[Xlad]

BM Naruto >= EMS Sasuke

 

[Gerkak]

Didn't the databook come out before Sasuke and Kakashi was ever shown using there's?

Nope, the databook only excluded naruto vs sasuke. Everything else was included or at least it was supposed to be, given the data book was said to contain everything up to chapter 691

 

[ComplexCity]

BSM > PS
BM is more or less equal to PS we've never seen a PS tank a BD so we don't know how well it can defend against it


My two cents tho

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Good point. I give the fans here a benefit of the doubt anyway. I don't see the fruit surviving a direct hit from PS on his head.

Naruto never had any Base chakra to begin with. If you remember the seals scans, both Jiraiya and the Frog confirm that Kurama's chakra always trickled into his system. Even then, it didn't enhance him beyond what his own chakra didn't permit. What I mean to say is that BSM was blocked again and again by Obito. Had the power boost been exponential as most claim here, we would have seen a difference. Heck, some difference. But we didn't.

I agree. Kishimoto wasn't exactly thinking straight by that point.



I need to give you scans for Enton eating through FRS and Sasuke coating his Susano'o with it? Yeah, okay pal.

I'm asking you to back up all your baseless claims with hard manga facts and scans. Until then I'm just gunna keep brushing your hot air posts and ask for proof, I shouldn't have to request this seeing as that's how a sensible debate goes but your not a very sensible guy so I'll tend to your special needs.

If I can provide scans and or hard proof of my clams you can do the same, I'm here to debate not speculate or discuss your shitty opinions. Remember that.