Who is stronger ems sasuke or bujji naruto?

[Netflix and Chill]

Scans? To my knowledge this was never stated

Don't hold your breath...you probably chased him off the thread by just asking for scans lol

 

[DHOH]

The same can be said for sasuke EMS is just a better MS nothing new there.

No.. Sasuke had no one to train him..

 

[Zee U]

This. It's arbitrary logic, really. His PS slashes will prevent Naruto from even kneading one. And we all know what happens when that volatile chakra is not kneaded properly ... it explodes. Also, Senjutsu enhancing Bijuu chakra is still fiction. Naruto produced nothing noticeable with it.

Doubt the avatar can take a direct slash to the face without it getting beheaded. Maybe a shockwave, but even then i doubt Sasuke would stay distant enough for his sword to not collide. Senjutsu doesn't enhance Kurama's chakra, it enhances Naruto's. It influences the avatar because it's created by the combination of Naruto and Kurama's chakras. If Naruto's chakra quality is altered the avatar will be altered too.

 

[Retsu]

Same can't be said lol. First, Naruto trained with bee. Second his powers are almost the same.. More chakra, and more speed.

Yes it can because kurama stated that there link could only last a limited amount of time due to it being their first time doing it, obviously a new mode requires practice, it's a double standard to assume Sasuke is handicapped because he just unlocked ems yet in the same breath claim Naruto isn't.

 

[lndra]

Well I'm just going on the fact that jutsus are not possible without Yin and Yang, so I figured 95/5 was decent. But regardless, I believe the two Kyuubi halves regenerated into full 100% Kyuubis. Meaning that 100% Kurama is almost as powerful as the other bijuu, but not quite, which makes perfect sense considering everything we know.

50% Kurama being better than 7 other bijuu at once is bullshit to me.

I do not think that their actual abilities whether or not being split via Minato and his sealing jutsu had an affect on what jutsu(s) they could perform or not. Seeing how none of them are actual elemental, but merely just chakra (Bijuudama). From what I understand Kurama/Hachibi combined are strong enough to tackle the other Seven by themselves, that was clear. I do not think they regenerated enough chakra because of their actual feats when they combined during the War arc with the fist bump. Funny how Shukkaku said that tails don't determine strength when Kishimoto proved the exact opposite. Seeing how his body was split into two beings, whether chakra refilled or not, it would just mean he would become even more stronger combined.

I'll go re-read them and send you what I find though.

 

[Gerkak]

No.. Sasuke had no one to train him..

Naruto only trained with killer bee for a 2 days max, sasuke had MS for more than a week and mastered it when he fought danzo, why would he need training to use EMS, when it is simply a more powerful version of his previous dojutsu?

What you said is true, but Madara tamed Kurama with genjutsu. Sasuke surpassed Madara. Logically Sasuke's chakra > Kurama's.

So by your logic kabuto had more powerful chakra than all the edo he summoned and controlled?

Or that madara and obito had stronger chakra than the juubi because they controlled it? Lol please

 

[Retsu]

What you said is true, but Madara tamed Kurama with genjutsu. Sasuke surpassed Madara. Logically Sasuke's chakra > Kurama's.

Not true, kuramas chakra allowed the alliance to fight on par with the juubi, Sasuke's chakra can't match that type of power.

 

[DHOH]

Naruto only trained with killer bee for a 2 days max, sasuke had MS for more than a week and mastered it when he fought danzo, why would he need training to use EMS, when it is simply a more powerful version of his previous dojutsu?

If Sasuke would've mastered MS he would've been using perfect Susanoo..

 

[The Necromancer]

I do not think that their actual abilities whether or not being split via Minato and his sealing jutsu had an affect on what jutsu(s) they could perform or not. Seeing how none of them are actual elemental, but merely just chakra (Bijuudama). From what I understand Kurama/Hachibi combined are strong enough to tackle the other Seven by themselves, that was clear. I do not think they regenerated enough chakra because of their actual feats when they combined during the War arc with the fist bump. Funny how Shukkaku said that tails don't determine strength when Kishimoto proved the exact opposite. Seeing how his body was split into two beings, whether chakra refilled or not, it would just mean he would become even more stronger combined.

I'll go re-read them and send you what I find though.

Well yes, but the Kyuubi and the Hachibi are the two strongest Bijuu. The bijuu have scaled exponentially as far as we have seen, meaning Bee could almost take the previous 7 by himself, but not quite, and Kurama could almost take the previous 8 but not quite.

It doesn't make sense for 100% Kurama to so totally and absolutely shit on the previous 8 Bijuu that it's laughable. Hachibi+Kyuubi defeating the previous 7 Bijuu med diff makes perfect sense if you assume both the Hachibi and Kyuubi are at 100%.

There's just no consistency if Kurama >>>>> every other bijuu combined while the Hachibi can't even take the other 7 alone. Plus it makes no sense that they would all be born the same size, and then Kurama would grow to be twice as large as all the others.

You don't need to find the thread, I'm sure i've read it and I already know all the points they will try to make.

 

[shelke]

1- Naruto enters KCM,

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to surround Sasuke (this was even before he became friends with Kurama). The clones form

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and the real one or a clone

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above him. For safe measures he can just send in a clone with a mini BD for the lolz. Show me a scan of firing 4-5 arrows in all direction at once...please.

2- Sasuke never showed PS in EMS, only legged Susano and what he did to cover Kurama. If he did Indra's have it and could initially do it on his own he would have shown that instead of just legged Susano. Even if he did have it PS Chidori isn't hitting little KCM Naruto dashing around.

You are none too bright. Just another run-of-the-mill Naruto wanker. I am not even surprised.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

This is all moot, as Naruto had ample access to his own and Kurama's chakra at this point. If naruto could create a Gamabunta sized FRS before becoming friends with Kurama, he would have.

What you just wasted your time typing just now is irrelevant. I said KCM Naruto beats EMS Sasuke. The thread said BM Naruto but I took it a step further and said KCM. Never said KCM before becoming friends with Kurama. The scan I provided was to show how much he can make without Kurama friendship let alone after they became friends and Naruto didn't have to worry about dying from using too much kuubi chakra.

 

[shelke]

Well yes, but the Kyuubi and the Hachibi are the two strongest Bijuu. The bijuu have scaled exponentially as far as we have seen, meaning Bee could almost take the previous 7 by himself, but not quite, and Kurama could almost take the previous 8 but not quite.

It doesn't make sense for 100% Kurama to so totally and absolutely shit on the previous 8 Bijuu that it's laughable. Hachibi+Kyuubi defeating the previous 7 Bijuu med diff makes perfect sense if you assume both the Hachibi and Kyuubi are at 100%.

There's just no consistency if Kurama >>>>> every other bijuu combined while the Hachibi can't even take the other 7 alone. Plus it makes no sense that they would all be born the same size, and then Kurama would grow to be twice as large as all the others.

You don't need to find the thread, I'm sure i've read it and I already know all the points they will try to make.

But did Kurama shit on all Bijuus? Naruto couldn't even handle one properly. Hachibi had to step in to aid him. I agree with the rest though.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

You are none too bright. Just another run-of-the-mill Naruto wanker. I am not even surprised.

I'm still waiting for you to even formulate a coherent argument...I guess it'll be too much to ask for a scan to back up your assertion as well right?

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Not true, kuramas chakra allowed the alliance to fight on par with the juubi, Sasuke's chakra can't match that type of power.

Kurama fought on par with the Juubi because of the amount of chakra he can use, in terms of potency Sasuke's chakra is still stronger. Susanoo's defense is comparable to BM which is a combination of both Naruto's and Kurama's chakra.

 

[Gerkak]

If Sasuke would've mastered MS he would've been using perfect Susanoo..

Only Indra's MS had the power to manifest PS. Other sharingan users require the EMS, DMS kakashi was only able to do it because he had rikudo senjutsu

 

[shelke]

Doubt the avatar can take a direct slash to the face without it getting beheaded. Maybe a shockwave, but even then i doubt Sasuke would stay distant enough for his sword to not collide. Senjutsu doesn't enhance Kurama's chakra, it enhances Naruto's. It influences the avatar because it's created by the combination of Naruto and Kurama's chakras. If Naruto's chakra quality is altered the avatar will be altered too.

Even if it doesn't get beheaded, the shock-wave would be more than enough to give Naruto a taste of his own medicine. The BD would explode there and then.

I know, which is why I made that assertion. Naruto's chakra is like a tiny trickle before Kurama's chakra. How much mixing would even be there to warrant it enhancing the entirety of Chakra Kurama is putting out for BM? The whole thing makes zero sense to me.

 

[Trúth]

BSM Naruto > EMS Sasuke >> BM Naruto.

 

[DHOH]

Only Indra's MS had the power to manifest PS. Other sharingan users require the EMS, DMS kakashi was only able to do it because he had rikudo senjutsu

You have no proof of that.. Databook said PS is a MS jutsu..

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Enton negs his clones, nothing KCM Naruto has can damage Sasuke's susano'o. Naruto is not avoiding his arrows for long nor is he tanking anything

You believe the clones can't dodge Enton when the same clones can dodge raikage who dodged Amaterasu which is faster than Enton? Bold statement. Or do you believe Sasuke has 369 degree vision and can see all the clones perform their attacks at the same time then fire his arrow at the front, back, both sides and above him at once? C'mon I know he's your boy n all but let's be honest here will we?

 

[shelke]

I'm still waiting for you to even formulate a coherent argument...I guess it'll be too much to ask for a scan to back up your assertion as well right?

You mean Enton eating FRS? You mean Sasuke being more than capable to handle KCM Naruto on foot, because obviously Madara and Obito had such difficulty. Oh wait, they could even do so for BM Naruto. There goes his entire skill repertoire. FRS is not even a fast technique, given that Deva - who is not even a speedster - dodged it with ease and stabbed clones at the same time.

KCM Naruto couldn't even hit Raikage with it without manipulating it manually. And Raikage is considerably slower than 4th. The clones are dealt with by taking to air or bringing out V4 with Enton Jewel. Sasuke coats his Susano'o with Enton and FRS that hits it gets consumed. There you go.