Who is stronger ems sasuke or bujji naruto?

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PS EMS Sasuke=> BM Naruto

BSM Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS EMS Sasuke
 

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It wasn't stated but it was implied. This was way before EMS :)

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Sinister=/=more powerful.

Sinister:giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen. In sasuke's case his chakra felt evil.

Nothing in the scan proves his chakra was more powerful than kurama's so unless you have a different scan.....
 

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It's not an excuse when the proof is right there.. It took Sasuke several months to develop his 3 tomoe sharingan, and weeks along with several epic battles with MS.. So logically speaking he would need more that mere hours to get a feel of his EMS powers..
 

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That was not a Full Kurama though. Not to mention it is debatable because that was just Kurama's chakra in the first place, not really him. Though IDK if that matters.

I've never been a proponent of the "50% Kurama" debate.

Yes, Kurama was split in two, but Bijuu regenerate over time, as the Juubi nearly became complete with just a tentacle and 1% of Kurama's chakra in like 45 minutes.

Both Kurama's are also the same size as the rest of the Bijuu, so unless you believe that Kurama was 2x bigger than every other bijuu, he likely regenerated, which is logical as all of the bijuu were created the same size, and they all grew into the same size.

Long story short, in my eyes, there are now two 100% Kuramas, one with 95% Yin and 5% Yang, and one with 95% Yang and 5% Yin. That's the only logical solution to me.

It wasn't stated but it was implied. This was way before EMS :)

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Sinister=/=more powerful.

Sinister:giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen. In sasuke's case his chakra felt evil.

Nothing in the scan proves his chakra was more powerful than kurama's so unless you have a different scan.....[/QUOTE]

I'm just giving you the scan he was referring to. I'm not making any judgements on it.
 
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That's a lie, he never said stronger, he said his chakra is more sinister than my own, if you think that means stronger I suggest you get a dictionary.

He also mentioned 'power'. And Susanoo is said to rival bijuu and it's made of the user's chakra.
 

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It's not an excuse when the profs is right there.. It took Sasuke several months to develop his 3 tomoe sharingan, and weeks along with several epic battles with MS.. So logically speaking he would need more that mere hours to get a feel of his EMS powers..
That's true. Though that has nothing to do with the actual problem here, with PS EMS he stalemates with a regular BM Naruto. The same BM Naruto who with the help of one other Bijuu, took down the other 7. PS was said to be strong enough to rival a single tailed beast. Not my words, the manga.

So that's why I stated BSM would be an overkill. If that's what you meant you were confused about d:

I've never been a proponent of the "50% Kurama% debate.
Yes, Kurama was split in two, but Bijuu regenerate over time, as the Juubi nearly became complete with just a tentacle and 1% of Kurama's chakra.
Both Kurama's are also the same size as the rest of the Bijuu, so unless you believe that Kurama was 2x bigger than every other bijuu, he likely regenerated, which is logical as all of the bijuu were created the same size, and they all grew into the same size.
Long story short, in my eyes, there are now two 100% Kuramas, one with 95% Yin and 5% Yang, and one with 95% Yang and 5% Yin. That's the only logical solution to me.
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From what I believe, when Kurama was split his body shrunk. You saw that comparison with the paw prints. I'll go find the thread about it.

That would not really make sense considering the Yin Kurama Minato had, was completely composed of Yin (Dark Kurama) while the Yang was the complete opposite.
 
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I've never been a proponent of the "50% Kurama% debate.

Yes, Kurama was split in two, but Bijuu regenerate over time, as the Juubi nearly became complete with just a tentacle and 1% of Kurama's chakra.

Both Kurama's are also the same size as the rest of the Bijuu, so unless you believe that Kurama was 2x bigger than every other bijuu, he likely regenerated, which is logical as all of the bijuu were created the same size, and they all grew into the same size.

Long story short, in my eyes, there are now two 100% Kuramas, one with 95% Yin and 5% Yang, and one with 95% Yang and 5% Yin. That's the only logical solution to me.




Sinister=/=more powerful.

Sinister:giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen. In sasuke's case his chakra felt evil.

Nothing in the scan proves his chakra was more powerful than kurama's so unless you have a different scan.....

I'm just giving you the scan he was referring to. I'm not making any judgements on it.[/QUOTE]

Oh my bad.

He also mentioned 'power'. And Susanoo is said to rival bijuu and it's made of the user's chakra.

He said eyes with such power he acknowledged sasuke's ocular power, nothing in kurama's statement suggests that sasuke has more powerful chakra than him.
 
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Do not wank KM Naruto's avatar feats. Do i need to remind you guys what happened when they faced at VOTE2? Rikudou PS stalemated the Rikudou BSM, you do know what that means right?

Rikudou PS = Sasuke's own chakra (Sasuke's + Hagoromo's Yin)
Rikudou BSM = Naruto's own chakra (Naruto's + Hagoromo's Yang) + Kurama's + Sage Mode

Remove Hagz's chakra and this means that Sasuke's EMS PS can perfectly stalemate with the BSM avatar in CQC. Take in count that the SM boost isn't that small, so PS doesn't have much problems with the BM avatar. Bijuudamas are the main threat, but Sasuke isn't a retard and knows how to prevent Naruto from firing those black balls of death. Staying in CQC range is something even my senile grandma would think of doing againts an enemy that has a missile launcher.
 

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From what I believe, when Kurama was split his body shrunk. You saw that comparison with the paw prints. I'll go find the thread about it.

That would not really make sense considering the Yin Kurama Minato had, was completely composed of Yin (Dark Kurama) while the Yang was the complete opposite.

I don't know why Kishimoto even showed that as all of them are even sized in the Sage's memories.

Do not wank KM Naruto's avatar feats. Do i need to remind you guys what happened when they faced at VOTE2? Rikudou PS stalemated the Rikudou BSM, you do know what that means right?

Rikudou PS = Sasuke's own chakra (Sasuke's + Hagoromo's Yin)
Rikudou BSM = Naruto's own chakra (Naruto's + Hagoromo's Yang) + Kurama's + Sage Mode

Remove Hagz's chakra and this means that Sasuke's EMS PS can perfectly stalemate with the BSM avatar in CQC. Take in count that the SM boost isn't that small, so PS doesn't have much problems with the BM avatar. Bijuudamas are the main threat, but Sasuke isn't a retard and knows how to prevent Naruto from firing those black balls of death. Staying in CQC range is something even my senile grandma would think of doing againts an enemy that has a missile launcher.

This. It's arbitrary logic, really. His PS slashes will prevent Naruto from even kneading one. And we all know what happens when that volatile chakra is not kneaded properly ... it explodes. Also, Senjutsu enhancing Bijuu chakra is still fiction. Naruto produced nothing noticeable with it.
 
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It's not an excuse when the proof is right there.. It took Sasuke several months to develop his 3 tomoe sharingan, and weeks along with several epic battles with MS.. So logically speaking he would need more that mere hours to get a feel of his EMS powers..

Same can be said for bm Naruto who unlocked bm during his fight with Obito. Plus Sasuke has no real way of hurting him since Naruto can tank or avoid most of his arsenal, although the same can be said for Sasuke his reserves will definitely run out before Naruto, which gives him the edge in this fight.
 

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That's true. Though that has nothing to do with the actual problem here, with PS EMS he stalemates with a regular BM Naruto. The same BM Naruto who with the help of one other Bijuu, took down the other 7. PS was said to be strong enough to rival a single tailed beast. Not my words, the manga.

So that's why I stated BSM would be an overkill. If that's what you meant you were confused about d:


From what I believe, when Kurama was split his body shrunk. You saw that comparison with the paw prints. I'll go find the thread about it.

That would not really make sense considering the Yin Kurama Minato had, was completely composed of Yin (Dark Kurama) while the Yang was the complete opposite.

When did I say I was confused?
 

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That's true. Though that has nothing to do with the actual problem here, with PS EMS he stalemates with a regular BM Naruto. The same BM Naruto who with the help of one other Bijuu, took down the other 7. PS was said to be strong enough to rival a single tailed beast. Not my words, the manga.

So that's why I stated BSM would be an overkill. If that's what you meant you were confused about d:


From what I believe, when Kurama was split his body shrunk. You saw that comparison with the paw prints. I'll go find the thread about it.

That would not really make sense considering the Yin Kurama Minato had, was completely composed of Yin (Dark Kurama) while the Yang was the complete opposite.

Well I'm just going on the fact that jutsus are not possible without Yin and Yang, so I figured 95/5 was decent. But regardless, I believe the two Kyuubi halves regenerated into full 100% Kyuubis. Meaning that 100% Kurama is almost as powerful as the other bijuu, but not quite, which makes perfect sense considering everything we know.

50% Kurama being better than 7 other bijuu at once is bullshit to me.
 

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Same can be said for bm Naruto who unlocked bm during his fight with Obito. Plus Sasuke has no real way of hurting him since Naruto can tank or avoid most of his arsenal, although the same can be said for Sasuke his reserves will definitely run out before Naruto, which gives him the edge in this fight.

Same can't be said lol. First, Naruto trained with bee. Second his powers are almost the same.. More chakra, and more speed.
 

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nice fanfic

EMS med diff, arrows cancel out his tbbs

and PS chidori negs naruto

1- Naruto enters KCM, to surround Sasuke (this was even before he became friends with Kurama). The clones form and the real one or a clone above him. For safe measures he can just send in a clone with a mini BD for the lolz. Show me a scan of firing 4-5 arrows in all direction at once...please.

2- Sasuke never showed PS in EMS, only legged Susano and what he did to cover Kurama. If he did Indra's have it and could initially do it on his own he would have shown that instead of just legged Susano. Even if he did have it PS Chidori isn't hitting little KCM Naruto dashing around.
 

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Same can't be said lol. First, Naruto trained with bee. Second his powers are almost the same.. More chakra, and more speed.

The same can be said for sasuke EMS is just a better MS nothing new there.
 

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He also mentioned 'power'. And Susanoo is said to rival bijuu and it's made of the user's chakra.

He says bijuu, not the strongest bijuu, and sinister does NOT correlate to strength. A criminal can be more sinister than the police force but I'm no way does that mean he is stronger.
 

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I've never been a proponent of the "50% Kurama% debate.

Yes, Kurama was split in two, but Bijuu regenerate over time, as the Juubi nearly became complete with just a tentacle and 1% of Kurama's chakra.

Both Kurama's are also the same size as the rest of the Bijuu, so unless you believe that Kurama was 2x bigger than every other bijuu, he likely regenerated, which is logical as all of the bijuu were created the same size, and they all grew into the same size.

Long story short, in my eyes, there are now two 100% Kuramas, one with 95% Yin and 5% Yang, and one with 95% Yang and 5% Yin. That's the only logical solution to me.




Sinister=/=more powerful.

Sinister:giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen. In sasuke's case his chakra felt evil.

Nothing in the scan proves his chakra was more powerful than kurama's so unless you have a different scan.....

I agree, but the thing is you can't control a beast unless your chakra is as strong if not stronger than it. Susanoo is a construct specifically made to overpower the bijuu and it's made of the user's chakra, therefore Sasuke's chakra is stronger than Kurama's considering he surpassed Madara.
 
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1- Naruto enters KCM, to surround Sasuke (this was even before he became friends with Kurama). The clones form and the real one or a clone above him. For safe measures he can just send in a clone with a mini BD for the lolz. Show me a scan of firing 4-5 arrows in all direction at once...please.

2- Sasuke never showed PS in EMS, only legged Susano and what he did to cover Kurama. If he did Indra's have it and could initially do it on his own he would have shown that instead of just legged Susano. Even if he did have it PS Chidori isn't hitting little KCM Naruto dashing around.

This is all moot, as Naruto had ample access to his own and Kurama's chakra at this point. If naruto could create a Gamabunta sized FRS before becoming friends with Kurama, he would have.
 

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He says bijuu, not the strongest bijuu, and sinister does NOT correlate to strength. A criminal can be more sinister than the police force but I'm no way does that mean he is stronger.

What you said is true, but Madara tamed Kurama with genjutsu. Sasuke surpassed Madara. Logically Sasuke's chakra > Kurama's.
 
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