who is strong Alive Minato or Alive EMS madara?

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They weren't at full power, and they were controlled by Orochimaru who didn't know how to use them properly. But then again, Hiruzen was also not at full power. Still, you can't say that he beats them because of that.
 

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They weren't at full power, and they were controlled by Orochimaru who didn't know how to use them properly. But then again, Hiruzen was also not at full power. Still, you can't say that he beats them because of that.
I think you just answered yourself.
Hiruzen was at 60%
Hashirama 40% or lower
Tobirama 40% or lower
Orochimaru 100%

Hashirama alone at 40% stomp Konoha mid diff. add Tobirama and its gg
 

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Minato blitzes the sh*t out of Madara.
Not really. Susano'o activation is pretty fast, and this is by no means a blitz.

EMS Madara = Tobirama and Minato > Tobirama= EMS Madara . SM minato >>>>> EMS madara.

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What? EMS Madara > Tobirama. EMS Madara > Minato. Tobirama = Minato. EMS Madara >=< SM Minato depending on variables.
 

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yup Madara can't sustain P.S long enough. + Minato can simply use contract seal to remove Kyubi from Madara's control
u do realize madara has a huge amount of chakra 2nd to only hashirama who madara fought 3 whole days with before running out of chakra...minato used like 5 jutsu and was out of chakra...yall talk about shit yall dnt even understand yet yall call yourself posting and debating...
 

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u do realize madara has a huge amount of chakra 2nd to only hashirama who madara fought 3 whole days with before running out of chakra...minato used like 5 jutsu and was out of chakra...yall talk about shit yall dnt even understand yet yall call yourself posting and debating...
can you show me that scan in which both of them fought for straight 3 day ?? Don't spread fallacious rumours
 

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yea he's fast but u neglect the fact he has to throw the ftg kunai towards madara and then tleport, in the motion of throwing madara can easily manifest susano...and then u show scans of of bm minato who instantly got to minato because he alreayd had a ftg seal on him from over 16 years ago...and in your last scan sm minato ftg to juubidara but as u can see he took too damn long to use his rasengan and got smashed, in that time he was cocking back his arm to use rasengan he can easily was countered and madara can easily manifest susano in that time which is as instant as u think it...#Countered
 

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I think you just answered yourself.
Hiruzen was at 60%
Hashirama 40% or lower
Tobirama 40% or lower
Orochimaru 100%

Hashirama alone at 40% stomp Konoha mid diff. add Tobirama and its gg
:( How does Hiruzen deal with Shinsuusenju? How does he deal with Flower pollen? How does he deal with a fully powered Jukai Koutan? How does he deal with Wood Bunshin?

Look, i know Hiruzen is underrated, but saying that he is above BOTH Minato, and EMS Madara combined? Whats that about?
 

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can you show me that scan in which both of them fought for straight 3 day ?? Don't spread fallacious rumours
if u dnt knw its not my job to inform u, go read the chapters where sasuke talks to hashirama, u already posting shit that is ridiculous and that u can barely understand and then dnt knw about the characters u are debating about...and i see u didnt counter what i said about minato's chakra usage...#LLABatU
 

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:( How does Hiruzen deal with Shinsuusenju? How does he deal with Flower pollen? How does he deal with a fully powered Jukai Koutan? How does he deal with Wood Bunshin?

Look, i know Hiruzen is underrated, but saying that he is above BOTH Minato, and EMS Madara combined? Whats that about?
i understand what he said about hashirama at 40% could still stomp konoha but madara's style and approach is way different... it hink hiruzen can counter madara's ninjutsu but cant affect susano unless emma transform into the staff and it has enough force to break susano...but thats something we dnt knw...
 
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