They weren't at full power, and they were controlled by Orochimaru who didn't know how to use them properly. But then again, Hiruzen was also not at full power. Still, you can't say that he beats them because of that.Hiruzen 1 shot senju brothers.
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Without Hiruzen SA would have been dead by now
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Hiruzen did know about it before Minato, and Hiruzen did use it against Orochimaru, are you high?not that hype . Just because hiruzen knew it, do you want to say hiruzen will use it.
EMS Madara = Tobirama and Minato > Tobirama= EMS Madara . SM minato >>>>> EMS madara.Wait, if this is EMS Madara with the kyuubi, Minato or Tobirama gets raped. Without the Kyuubi, high diff fight for Madara, maybe SM Minato could win.
I think you just answered yourself.They weren't at full power, and they were controlled by Orochimaru who didn't know how to use them properly. But then again, Hiruzen was also not at full power. Still, you can't say that he beats them because of that.
Not really. Susano'o activation is pretty fast, and this is by no means a blitz.Minato blitzes the sh*t out of Madara.
What? EMS Madara > Tobirama. EMS Madara > Minato. Tobirama = Minato. EMS Madara >=< SM Minato depending on variables.EMS Madara = Tobirama and Minato > Tobirama= EMS Madara . SM minato >>>>> EMS madara.
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u do realize madara has a huge amount of chakra 2nd to only hashirama who madara fought 3 whole days with before running out of chakra...minato used like 5 jutsu and was out of chakra...yall talk about shit yall dnt even understand yet yall call yourself posting and debating...yup Madara can't sustain P.S long enough. + Minato can simply use contract seal to remove Kyubi from Madara's control
True. Mardara can't even anicipate two FTG SM clones and original blitzing the shit outta him.Minato blitzes the sh*t out of Madara.
EMS Madara = Tobirama and Minato > Tobirama= EMS Madara . SM minato >>>>> EMS madara.
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can you show me that scan in which both of them fought for straight 3 day ?? Don't spread fallacious rumoursu do realize madara has a huge amount of chakra 2nd to only hashirama who madara fought 3 whole days with before running out of chakra...minato used like 5 jutsu and was out of chakra...yall talk about shit yall dnt even understand yet yall call yourself posting and debating...
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yea he's fast but u neglect the fact he has to throw the ftg kunai towards madara and then tleport, in the motion of throwing madara can easily manifest susano...and then u show scans of of bm minato who instantly got to minato because he alreayd had a ftg seal on him from over 16 years ago...and in your last scan sm minato ftg to juubidara but as u can see he took too damn long to use his rasengan and got smashed, in that time he was cocking back his arm to use rasengan he can easily was countered and madara can easily manifest susano in that time which is as instant as u think it...#CounteredTalking about Instant
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I think you just answered yourself.
Hiruzen was at 60%
Hashirama 40% or lower
Tobirama 40% or lower
Orochimaru 100%
Hashirama alone at 40% stomp Konoha mid diff. add Tobirama and its gg
if u dnt knw its not my job to inform u, go read the chapters where sasuke talks to hashirama, u already posting shit that is ridiculous and that u can barely understand and then dnt knw about the characters u are debating about...and i see u didnt counter what i said about minato's chakra usage...#LLABatUcan you show me that scan in which both of them fought for straight 3 day ?? Don't spread fallacious rumours
i understand what he said about hashirama at 40% could still stomp konoha but madara's style and approach is way different... it hink hiruzen can counter madara's ninjutsu but cant affect susano unless emma transform into the staff and it has enough force to break susano...but thats something we dnt knw...How does Hiruzen deal with Shinsuusenju? How does he deal with Flower pollen? How does he deal with a fully powered Jukai Koutan? How does he deal with Wood Bunshin?
Look, i know Hiruzen is underrated, but saying that he is above BOTH Minato, and EMS Madara combined? Whats that about?
EMS Madara has no feats that suggest he can keep up with Minato's SM speed.Not really. Susano'o activation is pretty fast, and this is by no means a blitz.
What? EMS Madara > Tobirama. EMS Madara > Minato. Tobirama = Minato. EMS Madara >=< SM Minato depending on variables.