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Sakura. Sasuke even admitted that hero academic knowledge was the best in their class.
 

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I don't recall Tobi ever saying that qq please provide a scan?

I tried to find it but it's in a very obsure chapter. The quote sticks out in my mind but there's no debut characters, places, or Jutsus. But I'm pretty sure it's after Sasuke fails at capturing Killer B and Taka goes off to attack Konoha. They're in the forest but Tobi finds and confronts them, saying his work with Akatsuki isn't over. Sasuke tries to kill him but he just phases through him. Then he says the quote. After that he directs Taka to the Kage Summit.
 

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OP: Poll?

OT: Sakura.
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Sasuke did claim that Sakura ( ) has greater analytic ability than him. Naruto also claimed that Sakura could make a better strategy than Sasuke ( ). Also the three databooks consistently rank Sakura higher in intelligence than Sasuke. Then there is the fact that Sakura managed to answer every single question on the test in the CE while Sasuke couldn't get any questions right.
 

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Because it was specifically mentioned in the manga.

At least read the manga before you try to form opinions next time.

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Lol that was my logic in every test I had in school... Though I ended up failing them most of the time... Where did they say that she actually passed that portion?
 

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I tried to find it but it's in a very obsure chapter. The quote sticks out in my mind but there's no debut characters, places, or Jutsus. But I'm pretty sure it's after Sasuke fails at capturing Killer B and Taka goes off to attack Konoha. They're in the forest but Tobi finds and confronts them, saying his work with Akatsuki isn't over. Sasuke tries to kill him but he just phases through him. Then he says the quote. After that he directs Taka to the Kage Summit.

Ohh then I wouldn't have known lol thank you, I can't remember most of the stuff from that arc for the life of me
 

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Sasuke did claim that Sakura ( ) has greater analytic ability than him. Naruto also claimed that Sakura could make a better strategy than Sasuke ( ). Also the three databooks consistently rank Sakura higher in intelligence than Sasuke. Then there is the fact that Sakura managed to answer every single question on the test in the CE while Sasuke couldn't get any questions right.

1. He said most improved not better than me...

2. how would Naruto know? That was the first time he had ever seen Sasuke seriously fight since the time skip, and he has never seen Sakura form ANY kind of strategy in the middle of battle, nor has she formed any kind of strategy in battle...
 

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In my opinion, Kakashi faced it like 10+ times and was able to deduce that but honestly the person who analyzed it best and only encountered it once was Shino.

Wut? Kakashi only encountered kamui 3 times in total while sakura encountered it twice. Kakashi fully analyzed it on the 3rd encounter. Sakura did nothing that kakashi couldn't do, likewise shino did nothing fuu and torune didn't do.

I know. The point was that, while Sasuke is probably smarter, the gap isn't as wide as one might think.

The thing is people here value battle smarts to the book smarts, sasuke has come up with better tactics and strategies than sakura, this is why the gap is considered wide.
 

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I tried to find it but it's in a very obsure chapter. The quote sticks out in my mind but there's no debut characters, places, or Jutsus. But I'm pretty sure it's after Sasuke fails at capturing Killer B and Taka goes off to attack Konoha. They're in the forest but Tobi finds and confronts them, saying his work with Akatsuki isn't over. Sasuke tries to kill him but he just phases through him. Then he says the quote. After that he directs Taka to the Kage Summit.

I remember that. That was the first time Sasuke experience Kamui since the Deidara fight, but back then he didn't give it any thought. He was completely bewildered when his Chidori phased through Tobi and was wondering what was going on.

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1. He said most improved not better than me...

2. how would Naruto know? That was the first time he had ever seen Sasuke seriously fight since the time skip, and he has never seen Sakura form ANY kind of strategy in the middle of battle, nor has she formed any kind of strategy in battle...
1. Sasuke said it's the most improved from our team which includes himself.

2. He's seen Sasuke fight ever since chapter 630. How many times has Sakura actually fought? Absence of strategical feats isn't the same as evidence for absence of being able to strategize.
 

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The scan HiddenSound is referring to:

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And what Sakura said is what Obito exactly does. :)
 

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Wut? Kakashi only encountered kamui 3 times in total while sakura encountered it twice. Kakashi fully analyzed it on the 3rd encounter. Sakura did nothing that kakashi couldn't do, likewise shino did nothing fuu and torune didn't do.



The thing is people here value battle smarts to the book smarts, sasuke has come up with better tactics and strategies than sakura, this is why the gap is considered wide.
Intelligence is a subjective thing in any case. Orochimaru could be considered the smartest character due to creating a whole new dimension. Or Itachi for his philosophies. Or Shikamaru for his strategies. Some may consider the gap between Sasuke and Sakura to be wide, but it is in only one aspect of intelligence.
I remember that. That was the first time Sasuke experience Kamui since the Deidara fight, but back then he didn't give it any thought. He was completely bewildered when his Chidori phased through Tobi and was wondering what was going on.

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Hmm. I remember him saying something different than that :/ Maybe I'm remembering the Viz translation or the anime.
But thanks for going through the trouble to find that lol
 

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Sasuke did claim that Sakura ( ) has greater analytic ability than him. Naruto also claimed that Sakura could make a better strategy than Sasuke ( ). Also the three databooks consistently rank Sakura higher in intelligence than Sasuke. Then there is the fact that Sakura managed to answer every single question on the test in the CE while Sasuke couldn't get any questions right.

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The scan HiddenSound is referring to:

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And what Sakura said is what Obito exactly does. :)

Yeah and read my links above. Kamui had Sasuke bewildered.
 

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For those who are doubting Naruto's words... please realize there is something called "off-screen" development. I'm sure Team 7 didn't just do 2/3 missions that were shown..

Furthermore, Naruto's words plus with the feats from Sakura hold far more value than the readers who do not know the "off-panel" stuff.
 

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Intelligence is a subjective thing in any case. Orochimaru could be considered the smartest character due to creating a whole new dimension. Or Itachi for his philosophies. Or Shikamaru for his strategies. Some may consider the gap between Sasuke and Sakura to be wide, but it is in only one aspect of intelligence.

Agreed, intelligence is subjective. I am just telling you what category some people will use to compare the two characters.

For those who are doubting Naruto's words... please realize there is something called "off-screen" development. I'm sure Team 7 didn't just do 2/3 missions that were shown..

Furthermore, Naruto's words plus with the feats from Sakura hold far more value than the readers who do not know the "off-panel" stuff.

I can agree with feats but not naruto's words. Naruto is a known sakura fanboy and a fanboy of team 7 in general. He makes statements without thinking or gathering any accurate data, an example of this is his claim that kakashi has a better nose than kiba. Clearly he likes to hype up his teammates and those he is close to or likes in some way.
 
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Sasuke is smarter overall, definitely has the battle-smarts, although Sakura has book smarts.

One thing is for sure, Sarada is smart as hell. Lol
 

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The thing is people here value battle smarts to the book smarts, sasuke has come up with better tactics and strategies than sakura, this is why the gap is considered wide.
People holding battle smarts with more value than book smarts is just a baseless opinion. I could easily say part one Temari is smarter than Orochimaru because Oro's shown no battle smarts compared to what Temari showed in her fight with Shikamaru but that would be fallacious because:

1. Battle strategy is only one aspect of intelligence.
2. Oro didn't get many strategical feats but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of making complex strategies in combat.
 
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People holding battle smarts with more value than book smarts is just a baseless opinion. I could easily say part one Temari is smarter than Orochimaru because Oro's shown no battle smarts compared to what Temari showed in her fight with Shikamaru but that would be fallacious.

As baseless as it is that is what some people will use. I am not saying that that's the proper way, I was just reminding him of what others are probably using.
 
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