Who is most skilled with Rinnegan?

[Rikudou Tobi]

Those skills are still basic to every Sharingan user. Same as Byakugan having all insight.

Yes an ocular skill, that's not a doujutsu like I was saying before.

How can we not? Ameno is exclusive to Sasuke. Same can be said for Madara but DB didn't say it was exclusive just a Rinnegan ability. But Nagato who had his Rinnegan never had it. Because it's exclusive to main user's only.

Whatever doujutsu sasuke used is his rinnegan ability and whatever jutsus nagato used are his only. Same applies to Madara. You're confusing ocular skills with actual doujutsus.
The rinnegan granting you the skill to master all 5 elements is not a doujutsu or even a ninjutsu for that matter. It's a rinnegan skill.
This is the same logic being applied to the sharingan being able to copy taijutsus, speed, and reading movements.

Madara and Sasuke awakened Rinnegan by having six paths chakra and being a transmigrant. Obito was a Juubi jin he still had sage chakra but he would not have Rinnegan because he wasn't a transmigrant same as Kakashi. Nagato had none of that. Only Rinnegan which contained sage chakra. Nagato himself never had it.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that they have six path power. So I don't get what you're posting here. Six path power does not directly mean Rinnegan, awakening or transplanting the rinnegan is just a part of it.

How is it not credible Kakashi Sharingan got a boost because Obito still had Juubi's chakra still when he gave his chakra to Kakashi.

Being the juubi jinchuuriki is having the power of the sage. So Obito giving six path chakra to kakashi means that he gained six path powers for that short time.

Already said being Juubi jin give you sage chakra.
RSM is sage chakra mixed with Senjutsu/SM. Or become Juubi jin.
Exactly gaining Rinnegan by having Indra's and Ashura's chakra to make Hagoromo's chakra. Or getting chakra from Hagoromo himself.
Already said that.
And none of the above happened to Nagato his Rinnegan is the only thing containing sage chakra. His six paths power was the Rinnegan nothing more.

Which I've been saying this whole time. So Kakashi saying that he gained six path power is not wrong.

 

[Styles]

Yes an ocular skill, that's not a doujutsu like I was saying before.

It's still the base abilities of every Sharingan user just like Rinnegan coming with all six paths of pain.

Whatever doujutsu sasuke used is his rinnegan ability and whatever jutsus nagato used are his only. Same applies to Madara. You're confusing ocular skills with actual doujutsus.
The rinnegan granting you the skill to master all 5 elements is not a doujutsu or even a ninjutsu for that matter. It's a rinnegan skill.

This is the same logic being applied to the sharingan being able to copy taijutsus, speed, and reading movements.

Sasuke used preta, outer and deva how is Sasuke using deva's strongest ability isn't able to use the weaker one's? Those paths come together with deva path. Same as Madara. How does the logic not apply to Rinnegan? If someone use 3 of the six then they have all six. You can't have half assed abilities.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that they have six path power. So I don't get what you're posting here. Six path power does not directly mean Rinnegan, awakening or transplanting the rinnegan is just a part of it.

Like I said Nagato never had six paths chakra only his Rinnegan contained it. So he doesn't have sage chakra.

Being the juubi jinchuuriki is having the power of the sage. So Obito giving six path chakra to kakashi means that he gained six path powers for that short time.



Which I've been saying this whole time. So Kakashi saying that he gained six path power is not wrong.

Exactly so Nagato doesn't have six paths chakra inside him Madara's Rinnegan does. Which is what Itachi meant when he said what he said.

I never said Kakashi didn't have sage chakra. I said the reason he had it was because prior Obito was a Juubi jin. Nagato was and had neither. So only his Rinnegan had sage chakra.

 

[lndra]

How did we get 6 pages of this?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It's still the base abilities of every Sharingan user just like Rinnegan coming with all six paths of pain.

Six path of pain is an actual jutsu while reading people's movements is not. These are completely different things. basic ocular skills and basic doujutsu are two completely different things.
>master 5 elements
>360 vision
>reading movements etc
Are all basic skills that all rinnegan, sharingan, and byukgan users share.

Individual doujutsu abiities like amatersu, tsukuyomi, kamui, enton, sasuke's portal, momoshiki aborbing, momoshiki's deflecting, amenotejakra, limbo, and nagato's six paths' jutsu etc are all unique to one person.

Sasuke used preta, outer and deva how is Sasuke using deva's strongest ability isn't able to use the weaker one's? Those paths come together with deva path. Same as Madara. How does the logic not apply to Rinnegan? If someone use 3 of the six then they have all six. You can't have half assed abilities.

Sasuke never used outer path and preta path. His absorption is different than nagato's and momoshiki.
And chibaku tensei including the outerpath doesn't fall under the six jutsus pain used.
Pain's six path of pains' jutsus only have six special ocular jutsu hence the name six paths. Everything else is what you can do once you gain six path powers.

Like I said Nagato never had six paths chakra only his Rinnegan contained it. So he doesn't have sage chakra.

Having the rinnegan is where nagato gets his source of six path chakra. Doujutsus contain chakra in them.

Exactly so Nagato doesn't have six paths chakra inside him Madara's Rinnegan does. Which is what Itachi meant when he said what he said.

Look above.

I never said Kakashi didn't have sage chakra. I said the reason he had it was because prior Obito was a Juubi jin. Nagato was and had neither. So only his Rinnegan had sage chakra.

You did say that kakashi didn't have sage chakra.

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Nagato having six path chakra in the eyes (rinnegan transplant) and kakashi being given six path chakra in the eyes is the same is called having Six path powers. You're just confusing yourself.

And it's not from the juubi jinchuuriki, the juubi jinchuuriki gave Obito rikudou senjutsu. But in short gaining six path chakra doesn't mean it is an automatic rinnegan, it just means a change in chakra type is now rikudou.