Who is more powerful in base form?

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Hashirama, Naruto's base is boosted by kurama(regen stamina, endurance etc) and as an adult he benefits from sage handout chakra. If we're going by natural base(also allowing Naruto kurama jin boost) then if we ignore the sage's handout Hashirama is superior.
 

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Hashirama. Most of Hashirama's abilities can be accessed without activating Sage Mode opposed to Naruto who has a number of Rasengan variants that can only be achieved in conjunction with Senjutsu or tailed beasts. Naruto would be stuck with no more than Shadow Clones and the basic Rasengan(he uses senjutsu to throw Rasenshuriken).

The only other part worth considering is the question of who's faster and who's stronger & I feel that goes to Naruto, with chakra maybe leaning towards Hashirama. If we're referring to a fight-fight rather than the general question of who's stronger, I feel Naruto should pull off the win simply because Hashirama's amount of techniques stop mattering when they're unable to actually snare Naruto. Naruto could stand toe to toe with Momoshiki in base when Obito was blitzing Hashi(I'm not sure if he was in SM at the time).

Consider the fact that both Madara and Hashirama were beat to hell. The only difference from this Hashirama is that he never summons the Thousand-Handed Senju, so this Hashirama only has more chakra going for him. My view? Base Naruto >>>>>> EMS Madara.
 

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Base hashi. He could probably take up to kcm nardo easily
Base Hashi can't take on fused Momoshiki though.
He gets washed, if he tries Naruto in hand-to-hand combat. He's rather safer keeping a great distance between them and squatting for an infinite wood release. Then again base Naruto was reacting to fused Momoshiki, so trapping him is probably not in Hashi's cards.
 
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Hashirama, Naruto's base is boosted by kurama(regen stamina, endurance etc) and as an adult he benefits from sage handout chakra. If we're going by natural base(also allowing Naruto kurama jin boost) then if we ignore the sage's handout Hashirama is superior.
Why did you jump through so many hoops to find a way to downplay Naruto?

"Who is more powerful in base form?"

Like it or not,Naruto's current 'base' includes everything you want to exclude=D

Current Naruto's base is more powerful:scorps:
 

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Why did you jump through so many hoops to find a way to downplay Naruto?
Downplay?

"Who is more powerful in base form?"

Like it or not,Naruto's current 'base' includes everything you want to exclude=D

Current Naruto's base is more powerful:scorps:
Not really, I was being nice Hashirama still whoops him.

I went over the manga and realised Naruto may have lost RSM/ enhancement he's missing a key feature, that's ignoring the fact that he didn't use it in key moments of need.

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Naruto lacks the 9 tomoe and the eye.
 

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Base Hashi can't take on fused Momoshiki though.
He gets washed, if he tries Naruto in hand-to-hand combat. He's rather safer keeping a great distance between them and squatting for an infinite wood release. Then again base Naruto was reacting to fused Momoshiki, so trapping him is probably not in Hashi's cards.
Kinda irrelevant considering jutsu couldn’t be used for momo. They would be for this
 

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Hashirama compared his own power to Obito JuubiJin with sage mode on - Naruto needed Kyuubi
And Hashirama's evaluation was that he was no match.:coffee: War Arc Naruto's base is not even comparable to Adult Naruto's as the differences between the two are a gift from the Sage and over a decade of years. I don't even believe War Arc Naruto had any base feats opposed to Adult Naruto who's caught Kawaki and fought an Otsutsuki.
 

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And Hashirama's evaluation was that he was no match.:coffee: War Arc Naruto's base is not even comparable to Adult Naruto's as the differences between the two are a gift from the Sage and over a decade of years. I don't even believe War Arc Naruto had any base feats opposed to Adult Naruto who's caught Kawaki and fought an Otsutsuki.
I agree with Kawaki part
 

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troll smh

Naruto is dead... no tomoe let alone ems.

base vs base isn't fair for Naruto... who's "base" is literally enhanced by kurama through 5PS and he still finna get beat up.. and i fucks with bro but Madara got major hands and he has that ash/smoke shit too idk..
 
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Seems some people need to reread the Manga. Remember when JJ Obito speed blitzed a Hashi wood clone?

Meanwhile Base Naruto held his own against Fused Momo. An Otsutsuki.

If Hashi engages in CQC, he's gonna rekt. His best chances would be to keep his distance and rely on his KKG to give him the win.
 
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