Who do you think is most to blame for the Uchiha clan Massacre?

[madarasasuke5]

Uchiha themselves.

 

[Meee]

Please read my post on the First page that explains why Madara is the root for all of this. U_U

Just did after posting that I agree with you Madara was teh root but honestly there is so many people involved with it I don't even know who to fully blame, Madara was the Root, Tobirama, Obito and the Uchihas made it worse and Danzo was the one who had them killed off. meh its to late I voted for the Senju already lol

 

[Styles]

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^The Uchihas earning the Villages trust.

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^Thanks to the Uchihas being a trustworthy, the rest of the nations becoming as one Villages after another.

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^The Uchiha Clan supporting Hashirama to become the next the Hokage and turning their backs on Madara(who wanted to start a war against Konoha).

Now This proves the Uchihas were loyal from the started to the Village....the fact is the Senjus started this whole thing.


Let me ask you this to the people who say Tobirama did the right by keeping the Uchihas in check? why would any of the Uchiha become like Madara when they in fact betrayed Madara for Hashirama and the Village?

i agree I even said this on page 1 but in way less depth the whole thing started because of the 2nd hokage taking the uchiha out of half of power which was rightfully theirs to begin with

 

[Brooks]

And that is exactly why Madara Uchiha was the root to all of this. Had he not challenged the Shodai and the Leaf for his own paranoid powerlust ideals then Tobirama wouldn't have to keep the Uchihas in check in fear of a future revolt. There was no evidence what so ever that even suggested that the

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were intent on wiping the Uchihas.

You're truly naive to understand this....Tobirama blamed the problem of a one man(who in fact the Uchihas betrayed)into the Uchihas as a Clan.....answer me this? why would any of the Uchihas become a rough ninja like Madara when in fact they betrayed him for Hashirama and the Village?

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Just did after posting that I agree with you Madara was teh root but honestly there is so many people involved with it I don't even know who to fully blame, Madara was the Root, Tobirama, Obito and the Uchihas made it worse and Danzo was the one who had them killed off. meh its to late I voted for the Senju already lol

No doubt there were many involved but it doesn't change the fact that it all stemmed from Madara. People like Danzo and Obito just took advantage while the Uchihas made it worse for themselves.

You're truly naive to understand this....Tobirama blamed the problem of a one man(who in fact the Uchihas betrayed)into the Uchihas as a Clan.....answer me this? why would any of the Uchihas become a rough ninja like Madara when in fact they betrayed him for Hashirama and the Village?

Its funny you're asking me that question when in fact its already been answered to you by the actions of the Uchihas and just proves it was the right decision by Tobirama. Sure the isolation only may angered them but they made it worse for themselves by not consulting to Hirzen, who was more than willing to help, about it. Instead they choose to lie discreet and scheme for years. Furthermore, their absence during the 9-Tails attack also did not exactly help their case.

 

[mikeeozua]

No doubt there were many involved but it doesn't change the fact that it all stemmed from Madara. People like Danzo and Obito just took advantage while the Uchihas made it worse for themselves.

But you cant judge a clan by the acts of one person

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

But you cant judge a clan by the acts of one person

That one person happens to be their greatest leader. Besides, there were other people invovled too who simply took advantage. And like I already said the Uchihas themselves were making it worse : chose to plan a coup and their absence from the attack of the Fox didnt also exactly helped and ease the tension amongst villagers.

 

[Brooks]

No doubt there were many involved but it doesn't change the fact that it all stemmed from Madara. People like Danzo and Obito just took advantage while the Uchihas made it worse for themselves.



Its funny you're asking me that question when in fact its already been answered to you by the actions of the Uchihas and just proves it was the right decision by Tobirama. Sure the isolation only may angered them but they made it worse for themselves by not consulting to Hirzen, who was more than willing to help, about it. Instead they choose to lie discreet and scheme for years. Furthermore, their absence during the 9-Tails attack also did not exactly help their case.

Wrong, the Uchihas didn't do any action when Tobirama ordered the ANBU black ops to keep a check with the Uchihas.

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Chapter 399 page 11.... ^Tobirama acted like a good person by giving the Uchihas special roles in the Village as a sight of good faith, but when in fact his really goal was to keep anyone else from following Madara's footsteps.

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Chapter 399 page 12...^Then Tobirama ordered ANBU black ops to watch over the Uchihas and keep a close eye on them, but a number of Uchihas noticed what was going on and that they were being watched like dogs without a leash.

Every fact points out to Tobirama and Senjus being the problem as why the Uchihas are this way, but you choose to ignore all facts and prove.

 

[startup97]

Tobirama and Danzo

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Wrong, the Uchihas didn't do any action when Tobirama ordered the ANBU black ops to keep a check with the Uchihas.

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Chapter 399 page 11.... ^Tobirama acted like a good person by giving the Uchihas special roles in the Village as a sight of good faith, but when in fact his really goal was to keep anyone else from following Madara's footsteps.

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^Chapter 399 page 12...^Then Tobirama ordered ANBU black ops to watch over the Uchihas and keep a close eye on them, but a number of Uchihas noticed what was going on and that they were being watched like dogs without a leash.

Every fact points out to Tobirama and Senjus being the problem why the Uchihas are this way, but you choose to ignore all facts and prove.

By Uchiha's action I meant their action of scheming of a coup. Rather than have their say about the matter they instead chose to remain discreet and scheme a coup for years to come. They could've gone to Hiruzen at any point but didn't.

My whole basis of argument lies on the sole fact that Madara started all of this, yet you are blinded or choose to deliberately ignore it cause you are bent on solely blaming the Senjus. I have not ignored any facts, I have already stated that multiple people were invovled who took advantage of the situation but it all started off from Madara.

Furthermore, what did you expect Tobirama to do? He just saw the leader of Uchiha clan revolt against the Hokage and the Leaf. Clearly tensions between the Uchiha and the Senju was not in ease so they were needed to be kept in check just in case. The Uchihas themselves did not make it any easier for themselves.

You can blame the Senjus all day but I have taken a step further by pointing out the very root that started all this. U_U

 

[mikeeozua]

By Uchiha's action I meant their action of scheming of a coup. Rather than have their say about the matter they instead chose to remain discreet and scheme a coup for years to come. They could've gone to Hiruzen at any point but didn't.

My whole basis of argument lies on the sole fact that Madara started all of this, yet you are blinded or choose to deliberately ignore it cause you are bent on solely blaming the Senjus. I have not ignored any facts, I have already stated that multiple people were invovled who took advantage of the situation but it all started off from Madara.

Furthermore, what did you expect Tobirama to do? He just saw the leader of Uchiha clan revolt against the Hokage and the Leaf. Clearly tensions between the Uchiha and the Senju was not in ease so they were needed to be kept in check just in case. The Uchihas themselves did not make it any easier for themselves.

You can blame the Senjus all day but I have taken a step further by pointing out the very root that started all this. U_U

The root isnt always neccesarily the cause, because the senju had a choice for the uchiha and they made the wrong one

 

[binderr]

Who do you think is ultimately responsible for the massacre?

lol Danzo was responsible. you have not even included him.

 

[Direcorpse]

Madara! Because he was jealous Mito Uzumaki stole his boy toy! :C

 

[Raiin]

IMO, the Uchiha Clan themselves but I think the Kohona Elders went about it the wrong way.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

It was Obito and Madara

 

[mikeeozua]

lol Danzo was responsible. you have not even included him.

He sort of counts as the konoha elders

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Konoha elders, including Sarutobi Hiruzen himself too.