Who did more for their Country? Minato or Itachi?
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zombiejesus
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well if naruto ends all war then minato because of his actions nd sealing the nine tails in his sone that would result in peace if naruto fails and dies they were both failures
also itachi messed his brother up bad and everone saskue kills is kind of itachis fault soo....
also itachi messed his brother up bad and everone saskue kills is kind of itachis fault soo....
24 12 11 to troll
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itachi if anything just spied on akatsuki and helped his brother , that is still a massive amoung of help , but i give to minato due to tobi and ninetails attack
MoreMegadeth
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Minato. Firstly all the things he did in the war, obviously amazing things due to him becoming the youngest hokage of these feats. Secondly sacrificed his life, yes like Blaze said, all the hokages did, but only he and Hiruzen sacrificed themselves being locked forever in the hell located inside the stomach of the reaper, Minato technically saved the village twice, when he defeated Tobi and the kyuubi, secondly, because he sealed kurama in Naruto, Naruto was able to beat Pain, don't say "no its because of Sage mode", or because he "turned Nagato good", he would have been captured already if kuramas chakra didn't go skit. Also when this happened because Minato had stored some of his chakra into Naruto he saved the village from kurama escaping. (Don't counter that last point saying the village was destroyed already, because he stopped kurama, everyone ended up surviving, allowing the village to rebuilt, possibly even better, because they could have upgraded a lot of the buildings with the new building techniques etc.)
captain pop
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Minato died a hero
Itachi died a villain
Minato may have done more or whatever you say but I consider Itachi's sacrifice more honorable than anything. He died like a true shinobi and was never glorified by large masses.
Itachi suffered to the very end for his village.
Itachi died a villain
Minato may have done more or whatever you say but I consider Itachi's sacrifice more honorable than anything. He died like a true shinobi and was never glorified by large masses.
Itachi suffered to the very end for his village.
blackbird31468
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itachi devoted his entire life and planned out everything he did for protecting the leaf village. he killed his clan, spied on akatsuki, and suffered until his death for his village and is now back to life doing everything he can to stop tobi and kabuto. while on the other hand minato fought in the war (no doubt he made a big imact on it) and stopped the kyubi at the cost of his own life and pretty much saved the last hope for the ninja world: naruto.
although both did a fantastic job for their village, i believe itachi did more.
although both did a fantastic job for their village, i believe itachi did more.
Minato saved the village + villagers from being completly obliterated
Itachi saved the village from being overthrown (uchihas didnt want to massacre everyone) they just wanted to be leaders
zombiejesus
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what of minatos sacrafice he sacraficed his wife child and himself for the village
and yes itachi sacrificed his clan but they needed to die for plot no jutsu you couldnt have a clan of rinnegan useres now could you? lol
As***** kill ur own mom, dad and kill everyone in the family by own hands is the greatest sacrifice. He got no fame but hatred from his own clan and his own village . Minato was the hokage and was his responsibility to save the village, he got a statue and respect . Itachi got none. If fuc**** anyone says anything more abt itachi "I Will slay him"
-Liquid Cefka-
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Just wanted to say: Anyone who says this is another "Vs" thread between Minato and Itachi, your f*cking stupid.
If this was a Vs" thread, it would've been in the title.
If this was a Vs" thread, it would've been in the title.
i swear to god i think your as bad as uchiha macho every thread with itachi in it you always support him even when you are completely wrong how stupid can you be to think itachi did more when he killed his entire clan he should have thought it out and resolved it diffrently but instead he just did what they told him to do
By saying "Who ever say Itachi has to be high" you don't prove your argument valid in any way,just for starters.And neither helps for a civil debate as you already categorize folks who don't share your subjective opinion.
Now I'll try to breakdown as clearly as possible my point of view on the matter...
1)Sacrifice
Minato was the Hokage,and by that he had to comply with his duty as such,namely protect the village when in danger,readiness to put ones life on the line to save the rest,in other words encompass the "Will of Fire".So what Minato did is not something that hasn't happened before his time or that didn't happen after,as it was his duty to protect the village.And with all those responsibilities,came also benefits such has fame,"acknowledgement" of the efforts,and a giant statue that carved his name in the book of history.With this in mind I deem his sacrifice as something very positive but nevertheless not unique.He sacrificed his son and his wife of his personal belongings and therefore saved the village.
Itachi wasn't Hokage,and wasn't burdened by the responsibilities of been one so he could have simply chose the easy route in life,and do what pleased him the most.But he didn't as we know full well,he with his own hands decided to slaughter his bretherens,lover,mother and father because he had knowledge of events greater than himself,but still with all those burdens bestowed upon him he never showed distress,he always maintained his "Illusion" of been "borderline insane".Itachi was a living Izanagi as he appeared to the rest of the world invincible but ironically knew full well that manipulating his personal state of existence was going to inevitably lead him to his death.As the very words of chapter 400 ring clear in my mind as it if I read it yesterday when someone as amoral as Tobi said he couldn't fathom what thought processes must have been going trough Itachi's mind during the clan massacre.Just think of the fact tha he could have been the strongest Uchia of he was egotistical or that he could have become a well renown shinobi in the world,or simply loved by those around him,but no he swallowed his emotions in blood and tears and decided to do what what rightand not what was easy.
So for the sacrifice I give it definitely to Itachi
2)Plan success/consistency
Minato on that fated night was faced with an evil too great for him to handle it single handedly,so he decided to Hope in the future and entrust his son own son with a power capable of defeating such evil.Now this plan isn't technically speaking much consistent as it was all placed on hope,hope that his son would stay in the right path,and someday learn to harness such great powers.But the key element in the plan was all Hope and some luck,but sure he did take some safety measures in the form of Gerotora(the key frog) and him appearing in the subconscious of Naruto.So the consistency of the plan was,to put it in numbers 4/10.But as we all know his plan will definitely come to success as his son his the main character so definitely when the show ends his plan would have succeeded entirely.
Itachi still wasn't faced with Immediate evil,but sure for this his burden wasn't in the slightest lighter,as the worst case scenario was a full blown shinobi world war.Needless to say like Minato's flaw was entrusting everything on a new born baby,Itachi's flaw was not killing Sasuke,as the latter was his form of Hopeon a brighter future for his beloved clan and more than anything his beloved future.His plan unlike Minato's had more safe measures and was relying not on luck but on certainties,namely the Kotoamatsukami on Naruto was 100% plan success,or the Amaterasu on Tobi,or even the entrusting of his powers to his brothers,so he would become stronger to some day challenge "The invincible Madara".The consistency of his plan to put it in numbers was 8/10 as it relied too on hope which depends on luck to some extents but indeed had more safety measures.As for the success of his plan until this very moment has failed,and his plan unlike Minato's isn't related to the main character so it doesn't have assurances that it will come to fruition.
So the Plan success I give it to Minato,but the plans consistency to Itachi.
Don't jump on my throat for the long wall of text but hey,at times I get carried away,especially when it comes to 2 characters I'm interested in.
Snoopy2006
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These are 2 different questions:
Who actually accomplished more for the village? Minato. A war is dangerous for Konoha, but the Kyuubi unchecked would have definitely destroyed the entire village and everyone in it.
On top of that, both Minato and Itachi left legacies. Minato's legacy (Naruto/Kurama) has saved the village many times. Itachi's legacy/mistake (Sasuke) is constantly threatening the village. Overall Minato actually accomplished more for Konoha.
But who actually sacrificed more? Itachi. Both gave up their own lives, but Minato never had to do anything as emotionally difficult as slaughtering his own family, his own clan. Minato was the Hokage and soaked up the praise and the fame, rightfully so, but it takes a special person to live rejected and hated by the ones you're protecting, as Itachi did.
Itachi sacrificed his family, his friends, his dignity and reputation, and sentenced himself to a miserable, lonely life. Both were ultimate shinobi, in different ways.
Who actually accomplished more for the village? Minato. A war is dangerous for Konoha, but the Kyuubi unchecked would have definitely destroyed the entire village and everyone in it.
On top of that, both Minato and Itachi left legacies. Minato's legacy (Naruto/Kurama) has saved the village many times. Itachi's legacy/mistake (Sasuke) is constantly threatening the village. Overall Minato actually accomplished more for Konoha.
But who actually sacrificed more? Itachi. Both gave up their own lives, but Minato never had to do anything as emotionally difficult as slaughtering his own family, his own clan. Minato was the Hokage and soaked up the praise and the fame, rightfully so, but it takes a special person to live rejected and hated by the ones you're protecting, as Itachi did.
Itachi sacrificed his family, his friends, his dignity and reputation, and sentenced himself to a miserable, lonely life. Both were ultimate shinobi, in different ways.
Snoopy2006
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Blaze Release
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And the highlighted part, you clearly lack common sense.
You should think before you reply to me
enditallsin
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minato because all the shit itachi did wouldn't have even mattered if minato didn't stop tobi when the kurama attack happened so in a way of speaking if it weren't for minato and kushina saving the village from tobi and kurama itachi and sasuke plus the entire would have been wiped out anyway so itachi is somewhat a non-factor in the question of "who did more" because without minatos sacrifice itachi wouldn't have even have gotten a opportunity for his, so itachi should be thanking minato in a matter of speaking..foolish boy....lol
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