Who corrupt Sasuke more?
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TotallyAlex
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I dont think sasuke was corrupted at all by Orochimaru, his time spent their never changed his goals, but madara was able to force his own goals into sasukes head by telling him the truth itachi never wanted him to know.
C Namikaze14
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The question should be who corrupted him more, Itachi or Madara. Oro really had nothing to do with Sasuke's corruption. Itachi started it all and Oro was simply a median for Sasuke to gain the required power to defeat Itachi. Sasuke never had a need to kill people other than Itachi but he did want to live his own path in life. After seeing Naruto near the start of Shippuden he decided that his unique path would include killing him at a whim. He simply saw an opportunity to perhaps get stronger and took it. I think he only intended to kill Naruto in the group, no one else. As for Sasuke's ruthlessness toward innocents in more recent chapters, Sasuke simply let Madara get the better of him. We have yet to see him kill an innocent without being provoked, but he is doing it more freely than ever before. So clearly Madara had the most influence overall, but Itachi surely had the biggest initial impact, not Oro.
Shivamcoder3013
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Neither. Orrochimaru corrupted him, he got over by killing itachi. Madara did not corrupt him. He just told him the truth. So indirectly, it was itachi who corrupted him, causing him to want to destroy the leaf.
Animeisalive
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ppl are forgetting that the curse mark is what started all of this....orochimaru mentioned that it was gonna make him crave power, by giving him a taste of the power the curse mark allowed him to access, oro changed his whole perspective of gaining power, so sasuke thought....since this curse mark actually works...i might as well use it, and so he did
Ya you got a point, but I want to clarify that the curse mark itself did not make him crave power, rather his realization that his current progression would not be sufficient to kill Itachi is what spawned that need for power.
I'm pretty sure that after seeing the power of Naruto's rasengan, how it demolished the water tower in their fight in Konoha, that that is the moment he realized he wasn't getting any stronger. Then he was encountered and convinced by the sound 4 to go to Oro. I don't think he actually had an intention to join Oro before those 4 came for him...did he? If someone can show me manga chapters (I'm going to bed so I'm not gonna check) that prove he had the intention before meeting them, that would be nice. But I don't think he had any intention, via cursemark or whatever, to seek out Oro until he was basically forced to go by the sound 4.
Then after they convinced him to go and after he felt the power of the level 2 curse-mark (spawned on him after breaking free from the incantation cylinder or whatever we call it) he decided to seek out Oro to get even more powerful. Does that make sense? Again, I truly think it was Itachi that was the initial person to corrupt him, Madara the final person, and Oro was simply a median for Sasuke to grow stronger through. Of course Itachi built in multiple paths of redemption for Sasuke to come back from, while Madara has no such intent.
Animeisalive
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well, ppl keep saying that it was himself but if thats the case then it was itachi, the one who turned him from cheerful motivated sasuke to avenger, i still say it was oro, sasuke had a pretty good attitude until he had a thirst for power, oro planted the seed to make that happen
Itz Me Orochimaru
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just like madara said, he was ment to be a avenger..to hate like that...orochimaru and itachi's secret just sped up the process..his hatred is turning him into a decent villian 
iamkawaii08
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i think he cant get anymore currupted at least.
Madara twisting the turth obviously is worst contender.
ANd sasuke at the moment is making alot bad choice by himself anyway.
He says he wants to revive the uchoha clan by talking out konoha. this is the most sillyest think I have ever heard.
How is killing more ppl reviving anything lol.
Madara twisting the turth obviously is worst contender.
ANd sasuke at the moment is making alot bad choice by himself anyway.
He says he wants to revive the uchoha clan by talking out konoha. this is the most sillyest think I have ever heard.
How is killing more ppl reviving anything lol.
Shivamcoder3013
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JiraiyaSensei
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Sasuke's lack of control over his rational thiniking ability and his selfishness and letting himself be manipulated by Madara easily enough- so Sasuke himself.
I understand Nagato getting manipulated since he was always the reluctant leader- he was happy to let Yahiko lead and when Madara told him a plan even a false one he didn't think over it too much till Naruto countered his arguments. But, Sasuke wasn't supposed to be that simple and gullible.. He never trusted Oro.
I understand Nagato getting manipulated since he was always the reluctant leader- he was happy to let Yahiko lead and when Madara told him a plan even a false one he didn't think over it too much till Naruto countered his arguments. But, Sasuke wasn't supposed to be that simple and gullible.. He never trusted Oro.