Who can actually counter this?

[Unorthodox]

suanno who cant warp a giant susanoo and the user at the same time

 

[dominicansharingan]

This obviously doesn't include Minato, seeing that he's already done it once with FTG (though it can be questionable on whether he was able to FTG in time because Tobi waited a little).

So yeah. Who can counter this, without Tobi stopping to say a few words?

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"Next time I'll warp you the moment I lay my hands on you." Tobi being overconfident, or is it true that Minato only escaped because Tobi waited a little before beginning to warp him?

another example:

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No one noticed him warp, and no one was fast enough to react or even stop him from warping Torune.

I'm posting this thread because I want to see your opinions on whether Tobi warping someone (without that person being aware of him till he lays his hands on them) can be avoided by anyone without an S/T tech like FTG. Too many people in versus threads think people can easily avoid being warped (i.e. Madara), though Minato only managed it with FTG after Tobi waited a little while and said a few words.

By the way, I'm talking one on one, though Fu and Torune are great examples of Tobi being practically impossible to recognize before the person's already warped.
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tl;dr: If someone doesn't even notice Tobi warp over and begin warping someone (Fu and Torune), and if Tobi doesn't stop and chat (Minato), AND if it can only be barely avoided through an S/T tech, AFTER Tobi says a few words (Minato), who can avoid being warped by Tobi?

NOTE: Through reflex, it'd be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to dodge without an S/T tech and possibly a Shinra Tensei with knowledge on Tobi warping. But through instinct, it can for sure possibly be stopped; but instinct doesn't work everytime.

Shisui and Tobirama. Shisui was called Shisui of the body-flicker so he can escape and Tobirama was not really good with space-time ninjutsu, so those too could too. Maybe Kakashi too, if he uses kamui on himself.

 

[GreenV]

Well Tobi is actually the most OP character in the show. Thanks to plot no jutsu that people can still breath fresh air.

What he needs to do is just teleport to World Leaders (Kage)'s bedrooms when they're asleep and suck them. xd

He didn't need to start a fight. Just teleport sneakly and suck everybody and let them die of starvation.

 

[Unorthodox]

Well Tobi is actually the most OP character in the show. Thanks to plot no jutsu that people can still breath fresh air.

What he needs to do is just teleport to World Leaders (Kage)'s bedrooms when they're asleep and suck them. xd

He didn't need to start a fight. Just teleport sneakly and suck everybody and let them die of starvation.

he needs to no where they sleep tho

 

[Bright Master]

1.) naruto in bjuu mode, i'd say because of his extreme speed, and may even hit tobi before he can attack or counter. (Just a guess, Id really know anything)
2.) Possibly, very low chance but possible Shikamaru. if he can manage a shadow possesion before tobi could use a strike, hopefuly tobi wont be able to use that jutsu anymore, and make tobi kill himself or something. (another guess/assumtion, please don't be angry with me if/when someone replies to this....)

 

[BONTUL]

Naruto, Raikage, Nightcrawler, Scorpion.. and other guys who can/seem to be able to teleport.

 

[killakader1]

I don't think Naruto would see it coming, if Fu and Torune (two elite root shinobi, and Danzo's bodyguards) didn't, until Torune was already practically gone.

Well if he's in sage mode he'll feel it coming

 

[snakekill321]

hmmmm... of course naruto and minato. maybe the 4th raikage. I really want to say someone with a byakugan (could see chakra acting up ) but other than that only people who have opened the gates

 

[BlackBomber]

Whats the point of making this thread if your going to try to negate any answer someone gives you but anyway I think minato naruto itachi tobi himself said if itachi knew everything about him he'd be dead and he has to be solid while he's absorbing if naruto somehow can attack him the jutsu might cancel

 

[AlexRG23]

I don't think Naruto would see it coming, if Fu and Torune (two elite root shinobi, and Danzo's bodyguards) didn't, until Torune was already practically gone.

He wouldn't need to, in km or BM, he senses evil intentions. If I'm not mistaken, warping someone into a void is not a nice thing lol

As soon as Naruto feels the evil intentions of tobi, he is on the other side of the battlefield vía his incredible speed, which btw = FTG speed (instantaneous) xd

 

[fuutonrasenshuriken]

Naruto BM mode, 4th raikage in v2, Kakashi maybe since he uses clones to analyze his opponent first, maybe guy in 8 eights.

 

[rajasasuke2]

naruto and kabuto can escape in sage mode
1)And i rember during fight with pain the toad sage told that sage user can sense the danger around him that what makes sage mode is lethal
2)and naruto can escape with biju mode +sage mode that he can move fastly and sense danger at same time
3) then how can ninja world defeat tobi then how will manja end without defeating tobi and every technique has own weakness in ninja world

 

[iamdsixth]

Shinobis with mid range to long range attacks. An intel on the technique would also be a huge advantage. I am pretty sure that Tobi's technique has a limited range.*
If you think about it,there are more techs in The Naruto Manga that are harder to dodge but good intel about those techniques play a crucial role on the outcome of a battle. For example ,Tsukoyomi which only needs eye contact but do to the intel about tsukoyomi, other shinobis avoid being caught in it. (Asuma,Kurenai intel from Kakashi,Guy avoiding eye contact) Hyuga Clan's Gentle Fist Art which targets the chakra circulation system but also do to the fact that the Hyuga clan is very well known for this, their opponents avoid close combats againt them. These are only to name a few.*
Fu and Torune obviously had no idea what they were up againts.They even tried taijutsu on someone who is a skilled Space Time Ninjutsu shinobi not to mention the Sharingan with great vision and insights. Its litelary going up to Itachi cussing him out and saying "LOOK AT ME IN THE EYES WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU!!" As for Minato, a partial of Tobi's speed&capabilities was witnessed by Minato right before the image you posted which probably Minato calculated that he is capable of escaping it.(intel) Evidense of his confidence on escaping the technique is the Rasengan he landed on Tobi which is a close range attack.*

No disrespect intended but the title of your thread is "WHO CAN ACTUALLY COUNTER THIS?" There was also a part where you wrote "I'm posting this thread because I want to see your opinions on whether Tobi warping someone (without that person being aware of him till he lays his hands on them) can be AVOIDED by anyone without an S/T tech like FTG."
The words COUNTER and AVOID makes your question confusing.
An example of COUNTER to me would be: releasing a water dragon jutsu on an incoming fireball jutsu to counter it.
Avoid which means to dodge. An example of that would be: how the third raikage avoided/dodged the Rasenshuriken.

DEFFENSIVE ACTIONS:*
COUNTER
AVOID/DODGE
ESCAPE
BLOCK/DEFLECT

To hopefully share my opinion to you I'll cover all defensive actions:
***COUNTER:its a space time ninjutsu technique. You need matter which consists mass,weight,&density to COUNTER which the technique does not.*
***AVOID/DODGE: Again,with good intel about the technique, it is possible to avoid/dodge this technique.
***ESCAPE:On the image you provided,Tobi's jutsu was already in action yet Minato was able to ECAPE it. So far,only Minato has ecaped it with FTG.*
***BLOCK/DEFLECT:same as the principles of countering.

To the point; its impossible to counter,it is avoidable,it is possible to escape;Minato was able to achieve this feat taking it out the impossible category,and it is impossible to block

I have to admit that is one hell of a trick from Tobi.Thank you for reading.
Just my opinion. Everyone else is free to make theirs.Have a great day

 

[TobisPawn]

Whats the point of making this thread if your going to try to negate any answer someone gives you but anyway I think minato naruto itachi tobi himself said if itachi knew everything about him he'd be dead and he has to be solid while he's absorbing if naruto somehow can attack him the jutsu might cancel

If you actually read the posts, I haven't been negating every post. I accepted Naruto (possibly), SM Kabuto, A, and Madara as viable people to avoid it.

Shinobis with mid range to long range attacks. An intel on the technique would also be a huge advantage. I am pretty sure that Tobi's technique has a limited range.*
If you think about it,there are more techs in The Naruto Manga that are harder to dodge but good intel about those techniques play a crucial role on the outcome of a battle. For example ,Tsukoyomi which only needs eye contact but do to the intel about tsukoyomi, other shinobis avoid being caught in it. (Asuma,Kurenai intel from Kakashi,Guy avoiding eye contact) Hyuga Clan's Gentle Fist Art which targets the chakra circulation system but also do to the fact that the Hyuga clan is very well known for this, their opponents avoid close combats againt them. These are only to name a few.*
Fu and Torune obviously had no idea what they were up againts.They even tried taijutsu on someone who is a skilled Space Time Ninjutsu shinobi not to mention the Sharingan with great vision and insights. Its litelary going up to Itachi cussing him out and saying "LOOK AT ME IN THE EYES WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU!!" As for Minato, a partial of Tobi's speed&capabilities was witnessed by Minato right before the image you posted which probably Minato calculated that he is capable of escaping it.(intel) Evidense of his confidence on escaping the technique is the Rasengan he landed on Tobi which is a close range attack.*

No disrespect intended but the title of your thread is "WHO CAN ACTUALLY COUNTER THIS?" There was also a part where you wrote "I'm posting this thread because I want to see your opinions on whether Tobi warping someone (without that person being aware of him till he lays his hands on them) can be AVOIDED by anyone without an S/T tech like FTG."
The words COUNTER and AVOID makes your question confusing.
An example of COUNTER to me would be: releasing a water dragon jutsu on an incoming fireball jutsu to counter it.
Avoid which means to dodge. An example of that would be: how the third raikage avoided/dodged the Rasenshuriken.

DEFFENSIVE ACTIONS:*
COUNTER
AVOID/DODGE
ESCAPE
BLOCK/DEFLECT

To hopefully share my opinion to you I'll cover all defensive actions:
***COUNTER:its a space time ninjutsu technique. You need matter which consists mass,weight,&density to COUNTER which the technique does not.*
***AVOID/DODGE: Again,with good intel about the technique, it is possible to avoid/dodge this technique.
***ESCAPE:On the image you provided,Tobi's jutsu was already in action yet Minato was able to ECAPE it. So far,only Minato has ecaped it with FTG.*
***BLOCK/DEFLECT:same as the principles of countering.

To the point; its impossible to counter,it is avoidable,only Minato was able to achieve this feat taking it out the impossible category,and it is impossible to block

I have to admit that is one hell of a trick from Tobi.Thank you for reading.
Just my opinion. Everyone else is free to make theirs.Have a great day

Yeah, my counter and avoid thing probably threw some off, my apologies. THOUGH, a well-time Shinra Tensei can counter it, I believe.

 

[iamdsixth]

If you actually read the posts, I haven't been negating every post. I accepted Naruto (possibly), SM Kabuto, A, and Madara as viable people to avoid it.




Yeah, my counter and avoid thing probably threw some off, my apologies. THOUGH, a well-time Shinra Tensei can counter it, I believe.

Shinra Tensei FOR THE WIN!

 

[rajasasuke2]

shinra tensei can only block mass particle only during fight with foo and tortune tobi didnt attack them instead he turned ghost mode and both of them pass through tobi so shinrai tensei cant work on ghost mode tobi apart from then he can continously use ghost mode for 5min and all of u forget tobi no had one sharigan and rinnegan and now he can use shinra tensei on opponents he can grab opponents so game over the only user have following techniques
1)ftg with speed like minato
2)perfect bijuu mode

 

[Ultimatevirus]

konan... gara...

 

[iamdsixth]

Yeah, my counter and avoid thing probably threw some off, my apologies. THOUGH, a well-time Shinra Tensei can counter it, I believe.[/QUOTE]

Shinra Tensei FOR THE WIN!

shinra tensei can only block mass particle only during fight with foo and tortune tobi didnt attack them instead he turned ghost mode and both of them pass through tobi so shinrai tensei cant work on ghost mode tobi apart from then he can continously use ghost mode for 5min and all of u forget tobi no had one sharigan and rinnegan and now he can use shinra tensei on opponents he can grab opponents so game over the only user have following techniques
1)ftg with speed like minato

2)perfect bijuu mode

Good Point! I guess he'll use it after the 5minute mark.LOL thats why TOBISPAWN stated a well timed Shinra Tensei. Plus if you read the thread carefully, the thread never stated on who can defeat Tobi and his Sharingan and Rinnegan. The thread only talks about one of Tobi's technique,(were he transports you to another dimension),about Minato able to escape it and opinions on other shinobis who might be able to do the same.

 

[darthvader5666]

Nagato and Rinnegan Madara might be able to. Depends on whether they can absorb all of Tobi's chakra with preta path before he finishes warping them. Which is very possible, look how fast Nagato was able to absorb Bee's v2.

 

[Sozaa]

It depends. Anyone using a clone or genjutsu could conceivably escape (Kakashi, Itachi) as well as those with super speed (Naruto, Minato) and anyone with a teleportation jutsu and the speed to activate it (Minato). Also, the OP is wrong: the second time Tobi attacks Minato, he lays a finger on the Fourth Hokage, intending to warp him away immediately but Minato instantaneously teleports behind him and moving faster than Tobi can even comprehend what has transpired delivers a Rasengan into Tobi's side.

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