Which is currently worse at the moment:radical left or radical right?

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Radical right because our political spectrum is screwed up currently. People you would consider 'radical left' aren't even that left. The current 'left' wingers are more moderate. Everyone keeps getting more right, which is what makes the radical right that much worse.
 

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Radical right will always be worst.

What did radical left do? Made a scientist cry and offended some white teens on net? Boo-****ing-hoo.
Radical right is justifying killings of innocent, ignores existing discriminations and participates on these horrendous things. ****ing hell thousands are dead and will be dying because of your soldiers (supported by right wings for the most part) in Middle East in daily basis but who gives a shit somebody left twitter because of sjws right?

(This is accordingly to ~Americanized~ view of left and right, for the rest of the World it is different.
It has a more economic meaning in some places for example)
 
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See, this is dumb. Most democratic politicians aren't even that left. Bernie Sanders is probably the most left politician we have in the US, and I would hardly consider him radical. The right is much more radical in that sense. A lot of them are what you would call "neo-conservative," and they have had a major impact on political events since Ronald Reagan was president.

OP it depends on what you would consider radical left and right. If you're idea of the radical left is some SJW, then that's not shit compared to the radical right. Maybe you would understand my gist if you lived in the Deep South. You might understand since you live in Texas, since Texas just changed its curriculum to where teachers don't have to teach about Jim Crowe laws and segregation. Not only that, the new curriculum heavily downplays the importance of slavery in the Civil War. In this case, you have clear whitewashing of history being enforced through the Texas state government. It might not seem that "radical" on the surface, but it will have a much more disastrous effect then some SJW on the internet.

I wasn't on so I just saw it now.

No, it's not dumb.
I wasn't talking about America only, just look at the current situation in Sweden.
This country is so f*cked up because of radical lefties.

Uhm, I don't live in Texas. I'm not from America. Where did you get that from?
I can be unbaised because I'm not from these countries, I don't support radical rights either. They're just stupid but so are radical lefts.
 

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It is sad when your only examples of bigotry are of SJWs hating on whites. Actual bigotry has been engrained in where I live, often in more subtle ways, and it has been constantly perpetuated by the radical right who often make up our state governments. The radical right pretty much banks on evangelicalism and "traditionalism" to perpetuate a culture of ignorance that has continually harmed my state for a long time. Its no coincidence that states from the south that have high poverty levels and low education standards are also very conservative.

This conservatism and traditionalism spawns all the way back even before the civil war era and continues on to today, and the "radical right" has had a big part in it.

@sasukesworld I was referring to the OP in that second part, and he has a very American-centric view of what's left and right
 
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It is sad when your only examples of bigotry are of SJWs hating on whites. Actual bigotry has been engrained in where I live, often in more subtle ways, and it has been constantly perpetuated by the radical right who often make up our state governments. The radical right pretty much banks on evangelicalism and "traditionalism" to perpetuate a culture of ignorance that has continually harmed my state for a long time. Its no coincidence that states from the south that have high poverty levels and low education standards are also very conservative.

This conservatism and traditionalism spawns all the way back even before the civil war era and continues on to today, and the "radical right" has had a big part in it.

@sasukesworld I was referring to the OP in that second part, and he has a very American-centric view of what's left and right

Oh well, ok.
I oversaw "OP", sorry.
 

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See, this is dumb. Most democratic politicians aren't even that left. Bernie Sanders is probably the most left politician we have in the US, and I would hardly consider him radical. The right is much more radical in that sense. A lot of them are what you would call "neo-conservative," and they have had a major impact on political events since Ronald Reagan was president.

OP it depends on what you would consider radical left and right. If you're idea of the radical left is some SJW, then that's not shit compared to the radical right. Maybe you would understand my gist if you lived in the Deep South. You might understand since you live in Texas, since Texas just changed its curriculum to where teachers don't have to teach about Jim Crowe laws and segregation. Not only that, the new curriculum heavily downplays the importance of slavery in the Civil War. In this case, you have clear whitewashing of history being enforced through the Texas state government. It might not seem that "radical" on the surface, but it will have a much more disastrous effect then some SJW on the internet.
My idea of the radical left is of those that try to lynch people for having different opinions or saying things they don't like(or take out of context and lie about).

They're the people who try to infringe on the free speech of others by targeting their jobs or other places of employment.Or tell people what to think and feel.

And while the radical right white washes slavery,they're not the ones currently on a campaign to pretend the civil war didn't happen by trying to remove the Confederate flag.
 

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It is sad when your only examples of bigotry are of SJWs hating on whites. Actual bigotry has been engrained in where I live, often in more subtle ways, and it has been constantly perpetuated by the radical right who often make up our state governments. The radical right pretty much banks on evangelicalism and "traditionalism" to perpetuate a culture of ignorance that has continually harmed my state for a long time. Its no coincidence that states from the south that have high poverty levels and low education standards are also very conservative.

This conservatism and traditionalism spawns all the way back even before the civil war era and continues on to today, and the "radical right" has had a big part in it.

@sasukesworld I was referring to the OP in that second part, and he has a very American-centric view of what's left and right
Oh please,it's not just SJWs(who don't even identify as being leftists) that condone bigotry as long as it's white people.

The entire extreme left believes in the concept of White Guilt and the idea that minorities can't speak for themselves so they need someone(AKA the extreme left) to do it for them.That all of the world's ills can be blamed on white men and so they deserve everything bad that happens to them.
 

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Radical right will always be worst.

What did radical left do? Made a scientist cry and offended some white teens on net? Boo-****ing-hoo.
Radical right is justifying killings of innocent, ignores existing discriminations and participates on these horrendous things. ****ing hell thousands are dead and will be dying because of your soldiers (supported by right wings for the most part) in Middle East in daily basis but who gives a shit somebody left twitter because of sjws right?

(This is accordingly to ~Americanized~ view of left and right, for the rest of the World it is different.
It has a more economic meaning in some places for example)
Terrorized a family because *gasp* they had a different opinion?Check
Sympathized with the terrorists that killed the cartoonists in France?Check
Affected the livelihoods of many people for not sharing the same opinion?Check
Constantly tries to impede on everyone's right to free speech and freedon of expression by attempting to censor/ban things they don't like?Check
Treat minorities like they're nothing more than tokens to be used in a game?Check
Willing to ignore hundreds of children being raped in the U.K because the perps were Muslims?Check
Radicalizing and poisoning the minds of the next generation?Check

I could go on but I made my point,btw...that scientist did more than any of the dipshits that attacked him ever will.
 

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Oh please,it's not just SJWs(who don't even identify as being leftists) that condone bigotry as long as it's white people.

The entire extreme left believes in the concept of White Guilt and the idea that minorities can't speak for themselves so they need someone(AKA the extreme left) to do it for them.That all of the world's ills can be blamed on white men and so they deserve everything bad that happens to them.

You're so right. You can see "White Guilt" everywhere. Dumbest sh!t ever.

For example every race have been enslaved during time, but I only see one race whining. Yes, it isn't so long ago but do you guys remember that Blacks enslaved them and selled them to Whites?
 

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@sasukesworld I was referring to the OP in that second part, and he has a very American-centric view of what's left and right

Yeah this...
Some Americans are really unaware of rest of the World. Op is one of them (just noticed his location is "Texas" lol no offense but no surprises for this)

Terrorized a family because *gasp* they had a different opinion?Check
Sympathized with the terrorists that killed the cartoonists in France?Check
Affected the livelihoods of many people for not sharing the same opinion?Check
Constantly tries to impede on everyone's right to free speech and freedon of expression by attempting to censor/ban things they don't like?Check
Treat minorities like they're nothing more than tokens to be used in a game?Check
Willing to ignore hundreds of children being raped in the U.K because the perps were Muslims?Check
Radicalizing and poisoning the minds of the next generation?Check

I could go on but I made my point,btw...that scientist did more than any of the dipshits that attacked him ever will.
Yeah right wings have never did anything at all.
(No they did much more actually, one simple example would be war in Iraq. Just one example and it is much more than anything you posted combined, i hate the comparasion for a thing like this but the OP was a petty piss contest to begin with)
 
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Yeah this...
Some Americans are really unaware of rest of the World. Op is one of them (just noticed his location is "Texas" lol no offense but no surprises for this)
I keep up to date on global events,how else would I know about the things I just described?

Nice to see generalizations based on where I live though.*sarcasm*
 

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My idea of the radical left is of those that try to lynch people for having different opinions or saying things they don't like(or take out of context and lie about).

They're the people who try to infringe on the free speech of others by targeting their jobs or other places of employment.Or tell people what to think and feel.

And while the radical right white washes slavery,they're not the ones currently on a campaign to pretend the civil war didn't happen by trying to remove the Confederate flag.

That doesn't infringe on free speech. Freedom of speech=/=say whatever you want with no consequences. Yeah, that might be going too far, but it in no way infringes on your right of freedom of speech.
 

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That doesn't infringe on free speech. Freedom of speech=/=say whatever you want with no consequences. Yeah, that might be going too far, but it in no way infringes on your right of freedom of speech.

I'd say forming a social lynch mob for things somebody said and then trying to get them fired or censored is infringing on free speech.

How would you feel if somebody took anything you said on this site and then tried to ruin your livelihood?Because that is disturbingly becoming more frequent as time goes on.
 

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Yeah this...
Some Americans are really unaware of rest of the World. Op is one of them (just noticed his location is "Texas" lol no offense but no surprises for this)


Yeah right wings have never did anything at all.
(No they did much more actually, one simple example would be war in Iraq. Just one example and it is much more than anything you posted combined, i hate the comparasion for a thing like this but the OP was a petty piss contest to begin with)

Funny,because I never implied the radical right isn't shitty.

But.right now the public is seeing first hand how shitty the radical left is.Several figures like Obama,Chris Rock,Jerry Seinfield,William Shatner and more have spoken about how toxic the radical leftists have become in any place they go to.

And those things aren't me trying to start a pissing contest,but a attempt to show just how out of control these people are.
 

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I'd say forming a social lynch mob for things somebody said and then trying to get them fired or censored is infringing on free speech.

How would you feel if somebody took anything you said on this site and then tried to ruin your livelihood?Because that is disturbingly becoming more frequent as time goes on.

Here's the thing. Freedom of speech means you are free to walk up to Linda and make fun of her saggy tits. It doesn't mean you are free to tell Linda not to be upset, or to tell the people that found out not to judge you, or the school you and Linda are attending not to suspend you. Your words have weight. They come with reactions and consequences. Lynching? Yeah, that's too far. But when it comes to losing your job, you pick which one you value more: your income, or your hateful comments. If it's not worthy of being fired over, you won't be. If it is, make the aforementioned choice. There are things that are okay to say, and things that aren't okay.
 
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They both have their own means. As mentioned above, The radical right has excluded in their textbooks Jim Crow and the KKK. They also have ALEC. The radical left has the Title IX (good law gone wrong), a confusing university's "List of Microaggressions", a Nobel Prize winner whose accuser has a questionable history/CV, and most currently the Boston art museum cancelling 'Kimono Wednesdays' after protests in social media. In which the kimonos were actually made by Japanese people, introducing Japanese culture using Kimonos with the Japanese's "Cool Japan" project.
 
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Terrorized a family because *gasp* they had a different opinion?Check
Sympathized with the terrorists that killed the cartoonists in France?Check
Affected the livelihoods of many people for not sharing the same opinion?Check
Constantly tries to impede on everyone's right to free speech and freedon of expression by attempting to censor/ban things they don't like?Check
Treat minorities like they're nothing more than tokens to be used in a game?Check
Willing to ignore hundreds of children being raped in the U.K because the perps were Muslims?Check
Radicalizing and poisoning the minds of the next generation?Check

I could go on but I made my point,btw...that scientist did more than any of the dipshits that attacked him ever will.
You're comparing Internet warriors, who have no political power, to the radical right, which has a monopoly over a good portion of the US, and had perpetuated real problems for a long time. You're whole argument is based on a group's misguided opinion and anecdotal actions. The difference is the radical right has implemented policies and systems that have harmed multiple states and people.

"Radicalizing and poisoning the minds of the next generation" Wow, that's very ironic. I can't properly describe of the culture here, but I described it well enough in my earlier post.
Oh please,it's not just SJWs(who don't even identify as being leftists) that condone bigotry as long as it's white people.

The entire extreme left believes in the concept of White Guilt and the idea that minorities can't speak for themselves so they need someone(AKA the extreme left) to do it for them.That all of the world's ills can be blamed on white men and so they deserve everything bad that happens to them.
You've been complaining about SJW (I hate this word btw) this whole thread and now you're saying they don't identify as leftist. So what's the deal with radical leftists, then?
My idea of the radical left is of those that try to lynch people for having different opinions or saying things they don't like(or take out of context and lie about).

They're the people who try to infringe on the free speech of others by targeting their jobs or other places of employment.Or tell people what to think and feel.

And while the radical right white washes slavery,they're not the ones currently on a campaign to pretend the civil war didn't happen by trying to remove the Confederate flag.
Riker explained it best

Also you're complaining about isolated cases.

Oh man. This last part. See, this is another thing that you don't understand. Wanting the confederate flags to come down from state capital grounds does not equal wanting to pretend the civil war never happened. That's a dumb notion. The confederate battle flag (note not the CSA flag) was only popularized way after the civil war during the 50s and 60s, and it was popularized by radical right politicians no less. For example, the South Carolina governor only built that monument as a spit in the face of the civil rights movement. Many southern black people are offended by the confederate flag because it's like a spit in the face to them. Not only does it represent opposition to the civil rights movement, it represents an illegitimate country whose whole economy was based on the forced labor of black people. If you can't empathize a little with the people who were subjugated for so long, it shows where your priorities lie.

I've noticed a huge problem with people, especially conservatives, practicing revisionist history when it comes to the civil war, and this is perpetuated by radical right news outlets who validate their dumbass opinions by spreading misinformation like saying the war was fought over tariffs or states rights. This is only reinforced by the Texas politicians wanting to revise school curriculum.
 

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Here's the thing. Freedom of speech means you are free to walk up to Linda and make fun of her saggy tits. It doesn't mean you are free to tell Linda not to be upset, or to tell the people that found out not to judge you, or the school you and Linda are attending not to suspend you. Your words have weight. They come with reactions and consequences. Lynching? Yeah, that's too far. But when it comes to losing your job, you pick which one you value more: your income, or your hateful comments. If it's not worthy of being fired over, you won't be. If it is, make the aforementioned choice. There are things that are okay to say, and things that aren't okay.
If somebody says something that harms the company or whatever,then I have no problem if they get reprimanded or canned.

However if they say something and it gets taken out of context and or even outright fabricated?That I do have a problem with.

The latter is becoming more common than the former,as with what happened to Tim Hunt.
 

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If somebody says something that harms the company or whatever,then I have no problem if they get reprimanded or canned.

However if they say something and it gets taken out of context and or even outright fabricated?That I do have a problem with.

The latter is becoming more common than the former,as with what happened to Tim Hunt.
A company is fully justified for firing an employee who said hateful comments, whether it be homophobic, racist, sexist, etc. That is because while working as an employee there, what you post on social media reflects your character and the company's because they choose to associate with you.
 
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I keep up to date on global events,how else would I know about the things I just described?

Nice to see generalizations based on where I live though.*sarcasm*

GLOBAL EVENTS i would laugh my ass off but i live with 3 other people is that your globe?
ALL examples from OP are from USA. Same with your second post (only 2 of them from out of USA but your points were based on what lefties in USA reacted) are you joking or not?
 
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