When you compare Naruto to Sasuke, Kurama SHOULD be excluded.

[kickassjutsu]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

some one has seen to forgotten about that gay ass curse mark, who helped him beat deadra, orochimaru, naruto, and helped him keep up with a sick and dying brother.

 

[jdilla]

I feel it's fair to add kurama in now since he's been tamed no easy feat for anyone without the blessed eyes.

 

[Sunagura]

yeah, if it vs it will be like sasuke vs kurama and naruto....but it fair i think or not

 

[Anorien16]

yeah, if it vs it will be like sasuke vs kurama and naruto....but it fair i think or not

I think it will be fair when:

Sasuke + Itachi's Powers added to his own MS = EMS sasuke

.............................................. VS................................................

Naruto + Kurama's Chakra = Naruto, the jinkchuriki of the Kyubi

 

[akimofnevis]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

you fail , sasuke have defeated naruto twice and once depending on the curse mark

 

[Maunten]

Naruto has been with karuma all his life, he has more of a right to use karuma in battle than sasuke has to use EMS, he has been using EMS for under a year....

 

[Lightning Release]

Naruto was probably barely an hour old before Kurama was placed inside him.. In my opinion he was born with the kyuubi. End of thread.

 

[joshu34]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

don't play stupid!

he's a jinchiruki my friend.:shrug:

the tailed beast is an external source of power indeed,but when a tailed beast is sealed inside a jinchiruki host,it becomes one with the host.:shrug:

in short the tailed beast and the host are one.saying "kurama is with naruto is unfair" is totally stupid on everybody's part.:sy:

besides sasuke has sharingan which allows him to predict his opponent's moves,and see every little detail.

naruto has no such thing.he just has large amount of chakra.so any way you look at it naruto having kurama is totally fair!xd

and besides sasuke was also given ms and ems. :shrug:

and i want to let you know,that sasuke fanboys are the ones who keep saying these things,because they are irritated of the fact that naruto will beat sasuke.and they probably want to find a reason to justify his loss when it finally happens.

just get this!a jinchiruki host using his tailed beast in any battle is completely fair,beacuse the tailed beast is a part of him,and it will be a part of him until he dies!

 

[sasukeEMSrules]

but sasuke got his ms and ems from other people..

good sire he was never given the MS. he awakened it after learning the truth plus you have to kill the person closest to you in order to awake mangekyo, i mean itachi died in the end hence enabling sasuke to awake MS.

 

[sasukeEMSrules]

Naruto was probably barely an hour old before Kurama was placed inside him.. In my opinion he was born with the kyuubi. End of thread.

:sy:
he wasn't born with the kyuubi.

 

[Pikachu]

Actually, if you exclude Kurama from Naruto, you'll have to exclude Sasukes MS and EMS.
Sasuke was only suppose to awaken the regular Sharangan. He got the MS and EMS from outside help(Itachi and Tobi) just like Naruto got the Kyuubi from his fathers seal. Also, the Uchiha clan's abilities are superior to those of the Uzamaki clan. So technically, with only the powers from their clans, Sasuke was suppose to be stronger then Naruto.

 

[Lightning Release]

:sy:
he wasn't born with the kyuubi.

Good job captain obvious. Would you like a cookie?

 

[admireableman]

Ems = bijju

 

[jtolliver87]

Sorry to burst you bubbles but holding bijuus is not an uzumaki blood line. look at gaara and or bee. all other bijuu wielders were not uzumaki. Also I'm not a sasuke fan boy or naruto fan boy because those two are washes out idiots in the manga who cannot do anything by themselves and always have to rely on something to help them. I am only stating what is logical.

Thats fine SM Naruto>MS sasugay

 

[saw2097]

I would like to remind everyone that this is a manga. It is not real. It doesn't matter how much we argue. Naruto will defeat Sasuke in the end. I would like to remind everyone that Sasuke was created for the sole purpose of being Naruto's rival. He is his opposite, the ultimate obsticale Naruto has to overcome. So in the end it doesn't really matter which character you like or what you think of Naruto and Sasuke. This is all fiction.

 

[The Necromancer]

good sire he was never given the MS. he awakened it after learning the truth plus you have to kill the person closest to you in order to awake mangekyo, i mean itachi died in the end hence enabling sasuke to awake MS.

Itachi let him with their battle which in the end was the catalyst for his gaining MS. Tobi told him the truth which made itachi become sasuke's best friend, which made his death meaningful. So in the end both itachi and tobi gave sasuke the Mangeckyou Sharingan because sasuke had no best friend to kill, and even if itachi was his best friend he stood no chance in a real fight.

And for the people who think itachi LITERALLY implanted MS within sasuke's eyes, he did not. He implanted one Amaterasu trap for when sasuke saw tobi's sharingan and that's it. After tobi told him the truth, he realized itachi was the big brother he always knew he was, and that made his death by sasuke's hand enough of an emotional tragedy to awaken the Mangeckyou Sharingan.

 

[Beheaded]

when u compare them u have to remember that sasuke has susano so if sasuke has susano it would be fair if kurama was included!!

 

[saw2097]

YOU ALL DO REALIZE THAT SASUKE IS A LUNATIC. He is evil and a bad guy. So people who say Sasuke is better than Naruto are basically saying they want the bad guys to win. You all want an entire village to be slautered along with the children.

THAT IS COLD!

Because guess what he is a very evil lunatic and a criminal. So of course Naruto is going to beat him he is the good guy.

It doesn't matter there not supposed to be fighting fair they are fighting for their lives. I mean if you were up against someone who was very powerful and was going to destroy your home. Are you going to fight fair and risk losing or use every advantage you have. Thats all the 9 tail is a major advantage for Naruto that he is utilizing to protect people he cares about.

 

[DesertAnbu45]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

No, my dude...
Sasuke's EMS wouldn't b possible without Itachi's eyes.... That's not his natural ability and therefore is an outside source, comparable to Kurama...
Plus, they're both rarely compatible for each of their own 'outside sources'... And it said n tha last manga that tha perfect s'susanno (however u correctly spell) can only b challenged by a bijuu form thing...
I suspect somehow both sasuke and naruto will perfect each of their respective crafts, and polish up these monster abilities, by tha time they square off......
They are both fairly matched...... Fin.
And i can't f***king wait to see them throw down prob sometime n early July.. It's gonna b,.. F-ing,... Fireworks.

I'm sure someone has posted a similar corrective reply, b4 this one, by now...

 

[saw2097]

No, my dude...
Sasuke's EMS wouldn't b possible without Itachi's eyes.... That's not his natural ability and therefore is an outside source, comparable to Kurama...
Plus, they're both rarely compatible for each of their own 'outside sources'... And it said n tha last manga that tha perfect s'susanno (however u correctly spell) can only b challenged by a bijuu form thing...
I suspect somehow both sasuke and naruto will perfect each of their respective crafts, and polish up these monster abilities, by tha time they square off......
They are both fairly matched...... Fin.
And i can't f***king wait to see them throw down prob sometime n early July.. It's gonna b,.. F-ing,... Fireworks.

I'm sure someone has posted a similar corrective reply, b4 this one, by now...

I wish but there is still to much story to tell. I doubt we will see them have it out untill some time next year.