When you compare Naruto to Sasuke, Kurama SHOULD be excluded.

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Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?
 

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Then Kakashi's sharingan should be excluded too when hes compared to someone. And Sasuke got his MS/EMS from Itachi he didnt train for that while Naruto trained to learn SM and control Kyuubi.
So sorry but youre a hater or ......you know
 

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but sasuke got his ms and ems from other people..
 

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Its really silly thing to say they all are shinobis sasuke use his weapen kusanagi shurikens etc right in the same way kurama is narutos ultimate weapen now he has control over it so why excluding
 

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Naruto has kurama, so you have to take it into consideration.
whether it's fair or not that he has it doesnt matter. he has it, end of story.
 

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its a part of naruto so no you shouldnt and if you do then exclude itaachis eyes from saskue smh you shouldnt give nor take when comparing any character its dumb thats like saying lets compare madara with ino but madara has no sharingan or wood style and ino has 10 tails and rinnegan stupid thread is stupid
 

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Then Kakashi's sharingan should be excluded too when hes compared to someone. And Sasuke got his MS/EMS from Itachi he didnt train for that while Naruto trained to learn SM and control Kyuubi.
So sorry but youre a hater or ......you know

MS ems is a uchiha blood line ability buddy. I thought I said that?

kurama is not an uzamaki ability. Didn't I say that? And sasuke awekened his MS after he learned the truth . It was never given to him.
 

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NO!! You compare people as they are. Is it fair? No. But that is how the story is written so deal with it and don't be a fanboy!!
 

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its a part of naruto so no you shouldnt and if you do then exclude itaachis eyes from saskue smh you shouldnt give nor take when comparing any character its dumb thats like saying lets compare madara with ino but madara has no sharingan or wood style and ino has 10 tails and rinnegan stupid thread is stupid

You guys don't get what I mean, madaras abilities are all his own abilities from his own blood and own techniques and his own chakra. And so is hashiramas! Naruto though relies too much on kurama, for example look at hashirama! that's what a true uzumaki should be like! relying on his own blood line huge ass chakra reserves!
 

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MS ems is a uchiha blood line ability buddy. I thought I said that?

kurama is not an uzamaki ability. Didn't I say that? And sasuke awekened his MS after he learned the truth . It was never given to him.

Sorry you really said that I just say Sasuke didnt have to train as much as Naruto and Sasuke's MS was awakened when Itachi died and poked his head (Sasuke cast amaterasu on Tobi before he could tell the truth!)
 

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MS ems is a uchiha blood line ability buddy. I thought I said that?

kurama is not an uzamaki ability. Didn't I say that? And sasuke awekened his MS after he learned the truth . It was never given to him.

well the ability to be a host is in narutos bloodline thats why all the people to host kurama were uzumaki your a fanboy and that ok but the manga is what it is and naruto is the hero saskue is well not he will lose and there not equal and you know this thats why you are crying its not fair lol but its ok saskue will get a boost and they will be almost equal :p but naruto will win because he has the most hax jutsu ever known to any shinobi PLOT NO JUTSU lol xd
 

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Sorry you really said that I just say Sasuke didnt have to train as much as Naruto and Sasuke's MS was awakened when Itachi died and poked his head (Sasuke cast amaterasu on Tobi before he could tell the truth!)

He tapped his head to implant only amatirasu. That's why it showed just like itachis the first time. But he fully awekend it when he learned the truth.
 

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dumb thread. kimmimaro wouldnt be anything without his clans abilities, neither would sasuke
 

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You failed because the Uchiha clan and Uzumaki clan, as of now, are not equal clans. The Uchiha are equal to the Senju, those are the two main clans. So Sasuke inherited greater power than Naruto from his clan.
 
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EMS should be taken from Sasuke Also.

Sasuke took Itachi's Eye powers to Gain EMS, Just like naruto has taken 9tails power to gain Km/Bm.
 

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You guys don't get what I mean, madaras abilities are all his own abilities from his own blood and own techniques and his own chakra. And so is hashiramas! Naruto though relies too much on kurama, for example look at hashirama! that's what a true uzumaki should be like! relying on his own blood line huge ass chakra reserves!

lol what madara used hashis dna to power up because he was to weak do you even read the manga
 

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Someon close this thread before the fire spills onto the gas.
 

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He tapped his head to implant only amatirasu. That's why it showed just like itachis the first time. But he fully awekend it when he learned the truth.

Yes but he couldnt have fully awaken it if Itachi hadnt awaken it :)
 

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well the ability to be a host is in narutos bloodline thats why all the people to host kurama were uzumaki your a fanboy and that ok but the manga is what it is and naruto is the hero saskue is well not he will lose and there not equal and you know this thats why you are crying its not fair lol but its ok saskue will get a boost and they will be almost equal :p but naruto will win because he has the most hax jutsu ever known to any shinobi PLOT NO JUTSU lol xd

Sorry to burst you bubbles but holding bijuus is not an uzumaki blood line. look at gaara and or bee. all other bijuu wielders were not uzumaki. Also I'm not a sasuke fan boy or naruto fan boy because those two are washes out idiots in the manga who cannot do anything by themselves and always have to rely on something to help them. I am only stating what is logical.
 
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