When you compare Naruto to Sasuke, Kurama SHOULD be excluded.

[Takure]

Hey bro, I quit on this thread because of this post here... shows how much idiots like you really fail at common sense and logic.

It is a blood line. He is born with the ability to acquire them naturally.

That's all I'm going to say, mods please close this thread....

Well, Narutos' body was made to sustain the chakra of a tailed-beast. Your point is?

 

[Helikido]

Well, Narutos' body was made to sustain the chakra of a tailed-beast. Your point is?

Really? Umm, look at the other 8 jinchurikis. Tell me which ones are also uzumaki? ohh only one of all nine is huh? okay, I guess you see my point...

 

[Takure]

Really? Umm, look at the other 8 jinchurikis. Tell me which ones are also uzumaki? ohh only one of all nine is huh? okay, I guess you see my point...

Why are you talking about the other Jinjuriki? This is about Naruto and Sasuke. Also, if you noticed, all previous Kuubi Jinjurikis' have been descendants of the Younger Son. Most likely, all previous Jinjurikis that have tamed their beasts' are in some way, related to the younger son. We all know that most people can't sustain a tailed beasts chakra. But, only few people can actually tame them.

Which means that Naruto's body was made to sustain the force of a tailed beasts chakra.

 

[EvilShadowMLT]

I don't care what anyone says, I'm with this guy. The OP makes a brilliant point and explanation. +rep

 

[Gooner4life]

What the hell is this!

1. Kurama hasn't always helped him and has also hindered him. Naruto doesn't rely on Kurama, Kurama sees when he is weak and uses it as an opportunity to take over.
2. The Senju clan is the clan equal to the Uchiha not the Uzumaki. The Uzumaki are born with chakra and the lifeforce to hold a tailed beast. Have you ever heard of an OP Uzumaki. (Nagato doesn't count, he was given the rinnegan)
3. Sage mode is a jutsu, it doesn't matter if an external source of chakra is used. Also Naruto is definitely a match for Sasuke MS.
4. Kurama is something he has had since birth and has since trained to control his power. In fact in Kyuubi mode, he is not using Kurama, he is using its chakra and it takes great skill to control it in his own way.
In conclusion, Naruto was not gifted like Sasuke, and Kurama is involved to make them equal. Naruto could have been gifted like Sasuke but Kurama has made this impossible. Kurama belongs to him, it is own power. Take away Kurama and there is no way EMS should be considered. It is a bloodline but there is no way of achieving it without the aid of someone elses power just like KM and BM. I'm probably just repeating what others are saying and although I understand what the OP is saying, there are flaws which make his argument useless

 

[Anorien16]

Oh my god damn god, if he had as much chakra as a bijuu, then why is he getting his ass kicked by to I right now? huh? the kurama is now his friend and he is still getting his ass kicked without kurama. he cant do crap with his base chakra... and dude please I am not a sasuke fan boy. Naruto and sasuke both I despise because they cannot do shit on their own without having some power handed to them.

And let's say naruto doesn't have kurama, he would get his ass whooped by just normal MS sasuke. Don't ask why, you will look like a retard. He has no counter for any MS technique.

BTW: I suggest you fix your reasoning and get some proper logic and common sense.

CONGRADULATIONS U HAVE PROVEN SASUKE FANBOYISM CAUSES PARTIAL BLINDNESS AND MEMORY LOSS.

well lets see what little things Naruto had to do before he started fighting Tobi:

1. Had to travel all the way from the turtle island to the battle field keeping KM active.
2. Had to fight A for a while.
3. Had to make a few KM clones (they eat more chakra) and help each division out sorting to impostor white zetsus and help them with the stronger EDos like 3rd raikage (He can solo tank hachi).
4. Had to fight Madara untill other Kages arrived. (Got one clone nearly exhausted, so nearly 1/5 of chakra gone)
5. Had to fight Nagato and Itachi. (Nagato absorbed a lot of Chakra)
6. Had to fight the 6 jinks: Nearly made 400 clones inside Goku's belly to force him to vomit even when he was nearly at the end of his strength and then had to face a 5 VS 1 Bijudama clash.


So Naruto is only a vey tiny bit exhausted when he started fighting Tobi. He is lucky to be alive with no mode on and fighting the Gedo. So ur right i guess.

Also note that as of current Sasuke, he is blind with his MS and can not aim at all.

And yes i m not onesided whiner like u:
Yes a non-blind MS sasuke will surely beat a non-kurama Naruto, but wld that be fair? Uzumaki heiritage is not for battle purpose, it is forcontaining biju's only.They have 'strong' chakra not 'more' chakra due to their blood (So does the uchiha See:

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) and it only helps to contain the biju and life force is used to live long and survive biju extraction, they have no battle application. So wld u compare normal club with a spiked club for damage? Cos a superiorly enhanced person is always better than a regular person. none needs proof for that.

Also a little advise loosen ur biasedness a bit and get ur logic corrected too. U r nothing but a regular fanboy.

Also i did prove that most of the logic u hold true as false in page 10 in the multicolored post. Try to do so in my way, with proof and logic. As far as i can see, only 'if' situations.

Also if u pick up IF situation i can say: IF sasuke's mother had a affair with J-man, sasuke wld not be born at all, but if he was born he wld be born without saringan, wld have to learn at the same pace as normal children and thus be an equal of non-kurama naruto.

Really? Umm, look at the other 8 jinchurikis. Tell me which ones are also uzumaki? ohh only one of all nine is huh? okay, I guess you see my point...

Well if u see the most jinks u wld notice, many of the adults ones went on a rampage (like the guy b4 bee) and attacked on sight. So they village had to go on trying untill they found a proper jink for each. But Naruo has been Keeping Kurama sealed since he was only A FEW HOURS old and didnt show any sigh of rampage untill his life was threatened and his seal messed up by Orochimaru. Sasuke fanboyism really causes memory loss.

Exactly what I am saying.

Yup, and they still deny.

Look, MS kills the users chakra while bijiu give him chakra. That is not fair! And assume was never given his ms abilities.

Bro what I am saying is that the kid can't do anything without relying on a external source of chakra, I dare you to say I am wrong.

Narutos base chakra is very pale compared to nagato and sasuke. He can't do much before he starts using sage mode. And sage mode itself is nothing compared to sasuke with Susano and or nagato.

Sasukes ems is still a blood line trai. Don't be an idiot, don't be ignorant, even if kurama is taken away from naruto and ems from sasuke, sasuke can still kill naruto because naruto will pale compared to sasuke even in sage mode.

No mr. Your logic is wrong. Naruto with out kurama would be nowhere. Even with all Uzimaki traits he still cannot go as far as he is now without sage mode. Sasuke and his bloodline is better than naruto and his own blood line. That's my point.

You are a total complete retard who cannot comprehend anything you dwueeb. I would like to see you prove me wrong about what I'm gonna say. Ira hi never gave sasuke ms. He implanted amaturasu through the transcription seal so that it ONLY activates when he SEES Tobi. SIMILAR to how he had the crow implanted in naruto. Go get some common sense bro then come talk back on my thread before you say you can embarrass people because you look like a bitch. Also sasuke only awakened amaturasu because he knew the truth and thought of his brother as his "best friend" and since he killed him he unlocked ems. Quit being a fuk around here.

Not just bloodline abilities, only thing that rely on your own chakra.


It's not bro because look were kurama has gotten naruto.

Oh really? Do u remember Kakashi stating that Naruto has nearly four times the chakra he hehimself has? Not to mention the fact much of the chakra goes to kee kurama sealed. Also to remind u again: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju (Gaara was born jink too). Since Gaara can still use his jink level powers despite not having bijus, it proves that all jinks have high chakra reserves compareable to their bijjus, which in turn means naruto has chakra compareable to a biju. So unless a biju level chakra is 'crap', u are very wrong here. But dont remember anyone stating that Sasuke has chakra compareable to a 'crap' biju........ U fanboys can be so biased sometimes.
Also lets note Sasuke chakra analysys:
1. Itachi VS Sasuke: 6-7 Katon, 1 orochimaru tech, 3-4 Cidori, (kirin dont take much chakra at all, just needs the conditions) etc and out of juice
2. Danzo VS sasuke: <5 min Susano (not always complete), 1-2 katon, 1 summon, 2-3 chidori, 2 regular genjutsu and spluttering in the end.
So not much of chakra, doesnt even hold a candle to Nagato.


Also remember base naruto is not that weak and a good match for sasuke:
1. In base stats naruto still has SM
2. Without Kurama ma and pa can fuse with naruto and indefinately extend SM and also provide sauiton, fuuton, katon, genjutsu techs and can also release genjutsu if naruto falls under it. (Dont complain if sasuke's summons are not that cool)
3. Dont count on kirin, it requires stormclouds to perform. Sasuke needs hell lot of heat to form clouds, two or three katons not gona do the trick. Sasuke need a lot of time before he can use that and naruto can just blow the clouds away with wind release. Personally i would like to see a rasensuriken and kirin clash. (In fight with itachi it was more of an plot no jutsu and also had help from the extreme heat from amaterasu)
4. Naruto in sage mode has a great power boost to all jutsu, speed, endurance and a near 33% chakra boost.
5. Those who complain naruto has no base chakra check out these facts: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju (Gaara was born jink too), so naruto do have high chakra as he held down kurama since birth plus he has uzumaki powers of strong chakra and life force.
6. Yes naruto needs clones to do most of his techs but needs only one for rasengan and two for rasensuriken, i think he can handle at least 3-4 clones in base mode. (Also note that when clones disappear they add their chakra to their user)
7. Without sharingan sasuke has only raiton and katon. Plus his reflexes will slower as he no longer can predict opponent's moves and genjutsu skill will be much reduced.
8. Lee once defaeted Sasuke easily (just before chunin exams), so can he do it now? past is past.

Sasuke's MS is his blood line trait. But his EMS and the boost that came from it is ITACHI's which had to be implanted externally and thus an external source of power like kurama. Also note with out EMS sasuke wld be blind and using walking-stick no jutsu.

Sahringan allowed sasuke to lear every jutsu fast at an inhuman speed too.

MS gives legendary powers that normal humans cant hope to learn while Kurama interfares with moulding chakra, tries to take ur body over at every chance untill and unless he is tamedAlso note that if Kurama's chakra is used without taming him, the jink wld go mad and lose all intelligence as long as the biju chakra is used. So isnt that a disadvantage too? .

Sasuke depended on his CS (Naruto at valley, Chun exam, Itachi, Deidara etc) in a lot of his fights, even cheated by using orochimaru's drugs to develop CS2. Fought 4 Taka VS 1 BEE and got owned thrice and had to be saved etc are few details that u have forgotten. Also note that without CS Sasuke wld be orochimaru now, as Sasuke was able to cancel his soul transfer tech using CS only.

Only to prove u a bit wrong, Sasuke Awakened his MS on his own. But the EMS was obtained implanting Itachi's eyes. So its a exter sorce of power too.

U speak about, logic , fact and common sense? Tell me among all the statements that i have made which are wrong or illogical?

 

[dman39]

if kurama is going to be excluded so should sasuke's eyes. sharingan definitely comes from the jyuubi. jyuubi has foul chakra kinda like the chakra sasuke has aquired through his hate. *hint * hint* Hmmm? Karin the sensor on his old team commented on the foul chakra he now has. Plus to all the haters, there is really no proof that sharingan came from so6p. but but there is a tablet that explains the stages... well why would the sage leave a tablet for only 1/2 the party to be able to read.

 

[Anorien16]

if kurama is going to be excluded so should sasuke's eyes. sharingan definitely comes from the jyuubi. jyuubi has foul chakra kinda like the chakra sasuke has aquired through his hate. *hint * hint* Hmmm? Karin the sensor on his old team commented on the foul chakra he now has. Plus to all the haters, there is really no proof that sharingan came from so6p. but but there is a tablet that explains the stages... well why would the sage leave a tablet for only 1/2 the party to be able to read.

But the jubi eye is in still theoretical stage and cant be used to prove a valid point. And only EMS can be excluded as it in truth itachi's power just as Kurama was half the power possessed by Kushina. But still even MS sasuke wld not matter currently cos the CURRENT sasuke with MS is actually BLIND.

 

[Son of God]

Hey bro, I quit on this thread because of this post here... shows how much idiots like you really fail at common sense and logic.

It is a blood line. He is born with the ability to acquire them naturally.

That's all I'm going to say, mods please close this thread....

Idiot. He did not have MS as a child - and his "ability to acquire"?

Naruto has the ability to acquire kurama
Kakashi has the ability to acquire sharingan/ms


If you're going to be an idiot, I'll do this.

Kurama is a ninja tool, so naruto can use him.
If you deny Kurama, Naruto's tool for battle, I deny Sasuke sustenance, his tool for survival.

Your turn.

 

[SAsugay]

Exclude SasUgays Penis if he have one :rofl:

 

[Anorien16]

Idiot. He did not have MS as a child - and his "ability to acquire"?

Naruto has the ability to acquire kurama
Kakashi has the ability to acquire sharingan/ms


If you're going to be an idiot, I'll do this.

Kurama is a ninja tool, so naruto can use him.
If you deny Kurama, Naruto's tool for battle, I deny Sasuke sustenance, his tool for survival.

Your turn.

Words of God

 

[Kaedon]

Kurama shouldn't be excluded but I am of the belief Naruto would be a more interesting character if his main power wasn't that of a bijuu. I'm in favor of Kurama being extracted one way or another and give Naruto his own unique power up instead. Maybe a perfected sage-mode that is less limited or something.

Watching jinchuuriki is like watching two characters -- or better yet fused characters (think DBZ if you're familiar). While they are fun, overpowered characters they get boring quick and feel less unique. Gaara remains a badass or dare I say is even more badass than he was before his extraction.

Bijuu make for good plot devices and fun enemies but I dislike them being used as tool on the good guy's side of things. Of course this is just my opinion.

 

[johnny335704]

CONGRADULATIONS U HAVE PROVEN SASUKE FANBOYISM CAUSES PARTIAL BLINDNESS AND MEMORY LOSS.

well lets see what little things Naruto had to do before he started fighting Tobi:

1. Had to travel all the way from the turtle island to the battle field keeping KM active.
2. Had to fight A for a while.
3. Had to make a few KM clones (they eat more chakra) and help each division out sorting to impostor white zetsus and help them with the stronger EDos like 3rd raikage (He can solo tank hachi).
4. Had to fight Madara untill other Kages arrived. (Got one clone nearly exhausted, so nearly 1/5 of chakra gone)
5. Had to fight Nagato and Itachi. (Nagato absorbed a lot of Chakra)
6. Had to fight the 6 jinks: Nearly made 400 clones inside Goku's belly to force him to vomit even when he was nearly at the end of his strength and then had to face a 5 VS 1 Bijudama clash.


So Naruto is only a vey tiny bit exhausted when he started fighting Tobi. He is lucky to be alive with no mode on and fighting the Gedo. So ur right i guess.

Also note that as of current Sasuke, he is blind with his MS and can not aim at all.

And yes i m not onesided whiner like u:
Yes a non-blind MS sasuke will surely beat a non-kurama Naruto, but wld that be fair? Uzumaki heiritage is not for battle purpose, it is forcontaining biju's only.They have 'strong' chakra not 'more' chakra due to their blood (So does the uchiha See:

You must be registered for see links

) and it only helps to contain the biju and life force is used to live long and survive biju extraction, they have no battle application. So wld u compare normal club with a spiked club for damage? Cos a superiorly enhanced person is always better than a regular person. none needs proof for that.

Also a little advise loosen ur biasedness a bit and get ur logic corrected too. U r nothing but a regular fanboy.

Also i did prove that most of the logic u hold true as false in page 10 in the multicolored post. Try to do so in my way, with proof and logic. As far as i can see, only 'if' situations.

Also if u pick up IF situation i can say: IF sasuke's mother had a affair with J-man, sasuke wld not be born at all, but if he was born he wld be born without saringan, wld have to learn at the same pace as normal children and thus be an equal of non-kurama naruto.



Well if u see the most jinks u wld notice, many of the adults ones went on a rampage (like the guy b4 bee) and attacked on sight. So they village had to go on trying untill they found a proper jink for each. But Naruo has been Keeping Kurama sealed since he was only A FEW HOURS old and didnt show any sigh of rampage untill his life was threatened and his seal messed up by Orochimaru. Sasuke fanboyism really causes memory loss.



Oh really? Do u remember Kakashi stating that Naruto has nearly four times the chakra he hehimself has? Not to mention the fact much of the chakra goes to kee kurama sealed. Also to remind u again: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju (Gaara was born jink too). Since Gaara can still use his jink level powers despite not having bijus, it proves that all jinks have high chakra reserves compareable to their bijjus, which in turn means naruto has chakra compareable to a biju. Where i never remember anyone stating that Sasuke has chakra compareable to biju........ U fanboys can be so biased sometimes. Also Nagato is a monster even Sasuke cant hold a candle to him.

Also remember base naruto is not that weak and a good match for sasuke:
1. In base stats naruto still has SM
2. Without Kurama ma and pa can fuse with naruto and indefinately extend SM and also provide sauiton, fuuton, katon, genjutsu techs and can also release genjutsu if naruto falls under it. (Dont complain if sasuke's summons are not that cool)
3. Dont count on kirin, it requires stormclouds to perform. Sasuke needs hell lot of heat to form clouds, two or three katons not gona do the trick. Sasuke need a lot of time before he can use that and naruto can just blow the clouds away with wind release. Personally i would like to see a rasensuriken and kirin clash. (In fight with itachi it was more of an plot no jutsu and also had help from the extreme heat from amaterasu)
4. Naruto in sage mode has a great power boost to all jutsu, speed, endurance and a near 33% chakra boost.
5. Those who complain naruto has no base chakra check out these facts: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju (Gaara was born jink too), so naruto do have high chakra as he held down kurama since birth plus he has uzumaki powers of strong chakra and life force.
6. Yes naruto needs clones to do most of his techs but needs only one for rasengan and two for rasensuriken, i think he can handle at least 3-4 clones in base mode. (Also note that when clones disappear they add their chakra to their user)
7. Without sharingan sasuke has only raiton and katon. Plus his reflexes will slower as he no longer can predict opponent's moves and genjutsu skill will be much reduced.
8. Lee once defaeted Sasuke easily (just before chunin exams), so can he do it now? past is past.

Sasuke's MS is his blood line trait. But his EMS and the boost that came from it is ITACHI's which had to be implanted externally and thus an external source of power like kurama. Also note with out EMS sasuke wld be blind and using walking-stick no jutsu.

Sahringan allowed sasuke to lear every jutsu fast at an inhuman speed too.

MS gives legendary powers that normal humans cant hope to learn while Kurama interfares with moulding chakra, tries to take ur body over at every chance untill and unless he is tamedAlso note that if Kurama's chakra is used without taming him, the jink wld go mad and lose all intelligence as long as the biju chakra is used. So isnt that a disadvantage too? .

Sasuke depended on his CS (Naruto at valley, Chun exam, Itachi, Deidara etc) in a lot of his fights, even cheated by using orochimaru's drugs to develop CS2. Fought 4 Taka VS 1 BEE and got owned thrice and had to be saved etc are few details that u have forgotten. Also note that without CS Sasuke wld be orochimaru now, as Sasuke was able to cancel his soul transfer tech using CS only.

Only to prove u a bit wrong, Sasuke Awakened his MS on his own. But the EMS was obtained implanting Itachi's eyes. So its a exter sorce of power too.

U speak about, logic , fact and common sense? Tell me among all the statements that i have made which are wrong or illogical?

^ ^ THIS ^ ^

And one more addition - Kishi has written manga in such a way that every power/jutsu of Sasuke is fully mastered without any limitations (except MS to EMS transformation) but every jutsu/power of Naruto has been in limitations always (like limited SM, limited KM until recently Kurama gave him full support, poor chakra control so clones are required, had to be careful with emotions or Kyyubi cloak will appear over his body etc. WHILE Sasuke doesn't have any problem like this)

 

[alakai200]

There are very few people that qualify as good hosts to the Bijuu and Naruto just happens to be one of those guys. Therefore, even if Kurama is an 'external' source of power that has been 'implanted', the jinchuuriki are a natural part of the ninja world and our guy Naruto just happens to be one of the few. So I don't think that including a Bijuu as a part of a ninja's 'natural' arsenal is unfair or really a power that should be excluded, since the ninja villages for generations have been using jinchuuriki. When you really look at what Kishi has given to the Uchiha at the higher levels, some of those jutsu are just plain unfair, Izanagi, are you kidding.

 

[laggygaga]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

WTF? What is the cursed seal that Orochimaru gave sasuke then?! :flaw: idiot fanboys

 

[Rafeal brown]

if kurama is going to be excluded so should sasuke's eyes. sharingan definitely comes from the jyuubi. jyuubi has foul chakra kinda like the chakra sasuke has aquired through his hate. *hint * hint* Hmmm? Karin the sensor on his old team commented on the foul chakra he now has. Plus to all the haters, there is really no proof that sharingan came from so6p. but but there is a tablet that explains the stages... well why would the sage leave a tablet for only 1/2 the party to be able to read.

Where did you get that from?? Got a link to back that up??

 

[cohaco]

sasuke's bloodline ability ( uchiha )give him the power to kill other ppl and become stronger ( MS ) and to take other eyes and become stronger ( EMS )
naruto's bloodline ability ( uzumaki ) give him the power to prison another one and take their abilitys
is it hard to understand ?

 

[Rhoxors]

MS ems is a uchiha blood line ability buddy. I thought I said that?

kurama is not an uzamaki ability. Didn't I say that? And sasuke awekened his MS after he learned the truth . It was never given to him.

Though with the huge chakra reserve Naruto has, it IS able to hold the 9tails within him, Sasuke would be ripped from the inside.

Then Sasuke shouldn't have learned anything from Kakashi, and would've been omnomnommed by Orochimaru, or even no Orochimaru, and Sasuke wouldn't have learned a thing.

Easy as it is, Naruto's bloodline is ABLE to control a tailed beast, that's why they do it, Sasuke (might) be able to control a tailed beast aswell one time, so why wouldn't he do it?
Uzumaki clan, as known from Naruto's Mother, are experienced in sealing, aswell sealing the 9tails in a body. So... it kinda is a clan abillity isn't it?

Or are you also saying the aburame clan shouldn't be able to control beetles etc cus they are different living beings...

You really don't want to see Sasuke getting falconpunched by Naruto do you?

 

[lol99]

I'm not complaining but I did state the reason why this thread was created and it is because peoples logic seem to fail a bit on this base. I'm not a fan of naruto or sasuke at all. those two cannot do anything alone themselves.

fail , they are teenagers fighting older opponents with a lot of experience and they are still on the road to achieve their full potential, is it so hard to understand? :sy:
The manga itself is to show how they grow up and overcome obstacles.

 

[Midday]

What a stupid thread. Taking away a bijuu from a jinchuuriki. :sy: