When will Sarada get to shine in the manga?

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

That literally doesn't make him have depth.

you're mistaking his characterization for something else.

What's depth for you then?

 

[salamander uchiha]

In german the word convince can be divided in: über: above and "zeug": Witness

So in order to understand you have to be above just reading the scan, but putting yourself in the character situation, like he is a real person.


Let's take Izuna:

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He is injured. And he is one that has already seen a lot of gore things. And he is behaving stubbornly. Not giving up in a place that ALL the other soldiers have already given up. Including his own. He likes to give the example of a strong person to his own.

Not only that: he is given the opportunity to get healed by the most STRONG medic of his time.

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But yet, he prefered stick to his pride and ideology. Tell me how easy is to do that in real life? Like: how many times we prefered comfort over our ideologies and what seems easy?

But guess what too? He isn't perfect. He gloated about being Uchiha and the power he possessed as such. And that was his downfall. It's too simbolic I can't even.

That's not to mention he is quoted in the databook as an harmonious person. This proves he was no saint. Even with this smile (and being able to find strength in his last breath to ask for his people, blood to be protected -TELL ME: What politician would even begin to do something like this??)

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He was still cruel due to circumnstances. Maybe because of selfishness one could say. But tell me: what could he do? Actually: what he thought he could do? Nothing. He was someone that was in a position of relative power. Not total. He'd not change everybody. What could even be possibly truly done for him to trust people that were strange to him? People That actually took his family from him before he could even begin to understand?

I can't even imagine what went through his head: did my mother die because of childbirth complications or because of that + the fact she lost 4 SONS already? What would have been if I met my other brothers?

But that didn't stop him from being a pure person from the start! He is the little brother that runs to his father to gloat about how big bro is awesome!

And there you have a nice description of how war can change someone. And how everything is grey. And not black and white.

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Well put, such a shame I can't rep you.

BTW you're reasoning with a deflector, I'd advise you not to give him too much credit.

 

[To Whatever]

What's depth for you then?

I'm not trying to deflect, but a character with one line in the series with second hand experiences from the memories of others does not give a character depth. His inner monologues, interactions with others, goals, accomplishments and struggles, his way of thinking, these things give dpeth. Izuna has one line in the entire series.


I am not saying he doesn't have potential to be a great character with lots of depth. But i'm not going to sit here and say he has depth when he has little to no appearances.


Kaguya has potential to have depth, but i'm not going to say she does.


I ask that you understand this.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Well put, such a shame I can't rep you.

BTW you're reasoning with a deflector, I'd advise you not to give him too much credit.

Thanks salamander!

And yeah, I find strange after all this parallels with reality and ideologies and much other things, he refuses to see the complexity involved.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Thanks salamander!

And yeah, I find strange after all this parallels with reality and ideologies and much other things, he refuses to see the complexity involved.

The best way to look at his posts are from the American lens, their(some not all) hubris clouds their cognitive faculty . There's a famous saying which fits him quite well it has many variants but the message is still the same. It goes "if the only tool you have is a hammer then everything will look like a nail." When discussing with it keep that in mind and you won't waste much time.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I'm not trying to deflect, but a character with one line in the series with second hand experiences from the memories of others does not give a character depth. His inner monologues, interactions with others, goals, accomplishments and struggles, his way of thinking, these things give dpeth. Izuna has one line in the entire series.


I am not saying he doesn't have potential to be a great character with lots of depth. But i'm not going to sit here and say he has depth when he has little to no appearances.


Kaguya has potential to have depth, but i'm not going to say she does.


I ask that you understand this.

And I ask you to understand he doesn't need to say 1 thing in order to have depth.

It's the old saying: actions speak louder than words.

And his, shaped the shinobi world forever.

That's why he appeared in a flashback in the Last.

They recognize his importance, and therefore the depth this includes.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

The best way to look at his posts are from the American lens, their(some not all) hubris clouds their judgement. There's a famous saying which fits him quite well it has many variants but the message is still the same. It goes "if the only tool you have is a hammer then everything will look like a nail." When discussing with it keep that in mind and you won't waste much time.

You really are a logical one. And a really good one.

Actually one of the best I've ever seen.

This resumes everything quite well, not letting a detail escape.

I didn't know he was american XD

 

[To Whatever]

And I ask you to understand he doesn't need to say 1 thing in order to have depth.

It's the old saying: actions speak louder than words.

And his, shaped the shinobi world forever.

That's why he appeared in a flashback in the Last.

They recognize his importance, and therefore the depth this includes.

I never said he needed to say more than one thing for depth, however, he does need more than the meager apperances he has.

His potential to have depth through his characterization is good. But that doesn't automatically mean he has it.

His actions did not shape the sinobi world. Madara, Tobirama, and Hashirama's did.


Kaguya shaped the entire planet, yet she has no depth.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I never said he needed to say more than one thing for depth, however, he does need more than the meager apperances he has.

His potential to have depth through his characterization is good. But that doesn't automatically mean he has it.

His actions did not shape the sinobi world. Madara, Tobirama, and Hashirama's did.


Kaguya shaped the entire planet, yet she has no depth.

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Except Izuna is inserted in a lot situations that give him depth.

Except His love and ideals shaped Madara in what he was.

Except Izuna's positions are shown throughout the story. So much Sasuke is even compared to him.

In your opinion Naruto is more developed than Izuna what isn't true.

 

[LightSo6p]

Well I got hopes that she’s going to get her time in the spotlight eventually. She have to much to offer to be a side character for to long

 

[To Whatever]

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Except Izuna is inserted in a lot situations that give him depth.

Except His love and ideals shaped Madara in what he was.

Except Izuna's positions are shown throughout the story. So much Sasuke is even compared to him.

In your opinion Naruto is more developed than Izuna what isn't true.

What situations gave depth to his character? You can pick out a lot of characters in this series and start interpreting the same way you've done; You're making up this pseudo-depth and trying to force it on a potentially good character who isn't completely fleshed out due to lack of exposure.

Izuna appearances in a decade long series is less than a 5 chapters. His ideals didn't shape Madara into who he was. It was him dying, the tablet, and Hashirama. These three things shaped him into who he was.

Izuna's positions doesn't give him depth. Hagormo was compared to Naruto several times by the Bijuu. But it wasn't until we've seen his thoughts and beliefs and motivations did we gain depth.


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Now you're saying Izuna has more depth than the titular character. Someone who feelings, experiences, struggles, and fears we've actually been shown throughout all 700+ chapters.


Can you elaborate on how Naruto has less depth? Because if that previous reply is all that you have to go off on, then you're way out of pocket for that claim.

 

[Belserion]

Himawari's death being confirmed hit you really hard focusing all your hatred and anger on Sarada all this time.

OT She will always get more relevant focus than Himawari xD

 

[123fire]

Honestly, I doubt the manga will focus on any other character besides Boruto. It's been Bort-focused only for like what, 2-3 years now? Doubt that'll change anytime soon. And on the top of that, the pacing sucks. They simply just do not know how to work the manga's pacing, it's more than clear at this rate.

Maybe she - and Mitsuki - will get some development in the anime and novels, but that's it.

2-3 years and only 1 major arc. blame the monthly release. it's not like there has been more than 3 arcs in these 3 years and all are boruto focused there's only 1 major one

 

[Adam Driver]

never she is fodder uchiwa with glasses so uncool!!!!!!!!!!!... she will give birt to borito kids nd be housewife like hinita nd sackura....

 

[Vulpini]

2-3 years and only 1 major arc. blame the monthly release. it's not like there has been more than 3 arcs in these 3 years and all are boruto focused there's only 1 major one

Monthly release isn't helping at all, but the pacing is the worst.

Monthly release makes things go slower and we also have Ikemoto's shit writing + his extremely slow pacing. On the top of that, he doesn't know how to use panels properly and wastes a lot of space in not so necessary things.

 

[Belserion]

Monthly release isn't helping at all, but the pacing is the worst.

Monthly release makes things go slower and we also have Ikemoto's shit writing + his extremely slow pacing. On the top of that, he doesn't know how to use panels properly and wastes a lot of space in not so necessary things.

Be careful. 123Fire things everyone who complains about the pacing is an actiontard or smth xd

 

[123fire]

Monthly release isn't helping at all, but the pacing is the worst.

Monthly release makes things go slower and we also have Ikemoto's shit writing + his extremely slow pacing. On the top of that, he doesn't know how to use panels properly and wastes a lot of space in not so necessary things.

1 boruto chapter is only 5-7 mins of anime episode. damn...

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

Time skip bud

 

[To Whatever]

Himawari's death being confirmed hit you really hard focusing all your hatred and anger on Sarada all this time.

OT She will always get more relevant focus than Himawari xD

I don’t care about that fodder. She’s barely worth mentioning.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Himawari's death being confirmed hit you really hard focusing all your hatred and anger on Sarada all this time.

OT She will always get more relevant focus than Himawari xD

Somebody knows what's going on

May Hima rest in pieces