when people say naruto had half kurama

[SilverfoxUchiha]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but my belief is that the Kurama Naruto had was at 100% the whole time.

Bijuu regenerate their chakra, to the point that a tentacle from the Hachibi could have created the Juubi.

Because of that, it's likely that 50% Yang Kurama regenerated his chakra to be roughly 100% Yang chakra.

The fact that the bijuu were all born the same size, and that Kurama ended up being the same size as the rest of the bijuu is evidence enough for me.

However it was stated in the manga that had Kurama had both yin and yang chakra his physical size and power would have increased.

i understand what you are saying re. 100% Yang Chakra, however that would not equal to Yin and Yang. 50%Yang<=100%Yang but not >Yin&Yang (if that makes any sense at all Lmao)

Edit: Plus Yang Kurama had asked Yin Kurama to lend him chakra. Given the fact that they were two parts of one entity rather than two separate beings; Naruto only had HALF of Kurama.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

^ Ok so this was a misunderstanding.

Entirely. My argument was:

100% kurama is far stronger than 50% Kurama and even at 50% he craps on beasts 1-8.

 

[Michael]

Entirely. My argument was:

100% kurama is far stronger than 50% Kurama and even at 50% he craps on beasts 1-8.

Exactly, this thread fails hard. This thread is debunked based on the mangafact that Minato could only seal half kurama into himself due to his power being too great. Full Kurama >>> Half Kurama.

 

[wanderingcactus]

No BM is kuramas special ability.

And no kinkaku and ginakaku can't exaughst kuramas chakra.

Errm BM means beast mode. But even if we talk about chakra mode, its still the same deal. Whether its special ability or not, the fact is that the jin has control of the beast's chakra rather than the opposite (in naruto's case anyways)

Kinkaku and ginkaku arent jin. So they can its just they never reach that level of exhaustion before.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I guess people fail to realize its stated that tailed beasts are made completely our of chakra and regenerate. Tailed beasts can't die because of this. This is also why when Naruto got a small fraction of each biju, they regenerated to full size. This is further explained when kinkaku and ginkaku are introduced and are able to go v2. So Naruto only got half kurama, bit that doesn't mean he didn't have full powered kurama, which he did.

If he didn't he wouldn't have been able to use kuramas special power which is the avatar.

They didn't get all the chakra to completely make the jubi, but it slowly regenerated and changes into its true form until it hit the god tree.

Glad I could clarify how just because Naruto has full kurama it makes no difference to when he didn't.

Naruto > Sasuke still though.

Wrong. Yes they are living beings of chakra but Minato split Kurama's chakra into Yin and Yang chakra. Kurama's chakra is halved as a result since Yang Kurama can only replenish his yang chakra but it takes both to full use chakra. Yang is physical energy while Yin is spiritual energy as Obito pointed out here to Konan

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. Chakra is made from Physical energy and spiritual energy as Pa toad pointed out

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. The chakra taken from the Bijuus aren't as big as the full Bijuu, just look at the mini 8 tails that was chakra from the tentacle Sasuke gave Obito

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. You can clearly see the Mini 8 tails by the big 8 tails; the mini 8 tails is not going to replenish to the full chakra of the 8 tails; only to the max that was separated from him.

If Naruto was given 10% of chakra from each of the other 8 Bijuus then the Bijuus inside of him would only replenish up to that 10%, not to the 100% that they were created with. That also means the max of the full Bijuus would be less by that 10% so would only replenish 90%. They actually gave Naruto a piece of their consciousness, if it was just chakra like what Kurama makes and give Naruto or what Naruto have the alliance then that wouldn't be the same as what I said and the Bijuus would replenish all of their chakra.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

But regardless yall can't prove me wrong and neither cab I prove you wrong, I'm just as right as yall are. My beliefe is Naruto always had 100 % kurama

 

[Reboryushon]

But regardless yall can't prove me wrong and neither cab I prove you wrong, I'm just as right as yall are. My beliefe is Naruto always had 100 % kurama

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[Hashirama Senjuu]

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Which regenerated to full

 

[Reboryushon]

Which regenerated to full

At the very end of the Manga. Burden of proof is on you, scans indicate he always had half, since Minato split Kurama chakra in half.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

At the very end of the Manga. Burden of proof is on you, scans indicate he always had half, since Minato split Kurama chakra in half.

Scans also indicate that tailed beasts regenerate any chakra lost. Llf can't prove me wrong still

 

[Reboryushon]

Scans also indicate that tailed beasts regenerate any chakra lost. Llf can't prove me wrong still

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Here you go. Half Kurama speaking with half Kurama, asking for chakra that it needs.. The focus during this phase of the war arc was on the existence of two Kuramas. It was half, never full. Yin-Yang man..

 

[Ambivalence]

Nope. There are multiple good posts in this thread already, but I'll just add that Kurama's Yin half was entirely sealed away. Not only did specific half of his chakra get completely sealed, but going by your logic, Yin Kurama shouldn't have even existed in Minato since it was always apart of the original Kurama. The conversations between Kurama and ''his other half'', as he calls it, not to mention the parallels make absolutely zero sense if we assume what you say is true.

Biju regenerate their chakra even if they exhaust it completely. Bijus don't regenerate an entire half of their Yin/Yang that was sealed away - it's pretty evident by Kurama's reduction in size and power that this was like a permanent downgrade, until the sealed half was returned. Then there are all the parallels between Madara's/Sasuke's PS and 100% Kurama/50% Kurama.

In short, Kurama never regained that chakra prior to ch.699.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

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Here you go. Half Kurama speaking with half Kurama, asking for chakra that it needs.. The focus during this phase of the war arc was on the existence of two Kuramas. It was half, never full. Yin-Yang man..

He simply was running low on chakra. Never did you prove he did not fill the space taken by his other half with more chakra. Still can't prove me wrong man.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Nope. There are multiple good posts in this thread already, but I'll just add that Kurama's Yin half was entirely sealed away. Not only did specific half of his chakra get completely sealed, but going by your logic, Yin Kurama shouldn't have even existed in Minato since it was always apart of the original Kurama. The conversations between Kurama and ''his other half'', as he calls it, not to mention the parallels make absolutely zero sense if we assume what you say is true.

Biju regenerate their chakra even if they exhaust it completely. Bijus don't regenerate an entire half of their Yin/Yang that was sealed away - it's pretty evident by Kurama's reduction in size and power that this was like a permanent downgrade, until the sealed half was returned. Then there are all the parallels between Madara's/Sasuke's PS and 100% Kurama/50% Kurama.

In short, Kurama never regained that chakra prior to ch.699.

Prove kurama wasn't at full power? Mhm you can't .

 

[solorflare99]

This thread is so stupid. First we have seen they are different sizes. Second Kurama was cut in half physically. His entire being was split in half, you can't regenerate from that. That is why Orochimaru couldn't get his arms back.

 

[Xlad]

Another retard. I'm glad I stayed off for a while.

 

[To Whatever]

Kurama being different colors obviously tells you that it wasn't just chakra that was split.

 

[Honord Sage]

With the defeat of both Madara and Kaguya Naruto ended with both Kurama as one inside Him the rest of the tailed Beast under His command.

 

[xxSAGExx]

But regardless yall can't prove me wrong and neither cab I prove you wrong, I'm just as right as yall are. My beliefe is Naruto always had 100 % kurama

I pretty much did above you. You said The Juubi was transforming because the 8 tails and 9 tails chakra that he had were replenishing in one of your post didn't you? I'm my post ^ I have a link that shows mini 8 tails next to big 8 tails so the 8 tails didn't regenerate anything other than the max chakra it had from the tentacle. That tentacle was taken weeks from now yet it's not at a full size 8 tails. By your logic it should be the same size as the full 8 tails yet it's not.

Yang Kurama was out/low on chakra and asked Yin Kurama for chakra then they gave the Alliance chakra. Choji then says the chakra is much more powerful and they have more of it than before. Kurama can regenerate his chakra in a couple of minutes, Minato didn't seal full Kurama in Naruto because his baby body couldn't handle all of its chakra so if Kurama replenished his full reserve than Naruto as a baby wouldn't be able to handle it and die or suffer in some way

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. Kushina was older when she got full Kurama, Naruto is less than an hour old; he can't handle full Kurama's chakra at that age as Minato implied.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Kurama being different colors obviously tells you that it wasn't just chakra that was split.

They're different colors bcus one was inside a dead body roflmao