when people say naruto had half kurama

[BenjerminGaye]

So you believe it's logical that Kurama is not only meant to be 2x larger than the rest of the bijuu who are all the same exact size, but also that he is meant to be nearly 2x stronger than the rest combined?

That is foolish, in my mind.

I'm not going by size cuz kishi fcks up scale 70% of the time. I'm going by power. When 50% Kurama busts out 12 tbb's at once and not 5 then I'll believe their equal. Until then 50% Kurama can sit his ass down.


And even at 50% the rest don't hold a candle to kurama, since they can't even use tbb in v2 whIle kurama can even when limited to 4 of his 9 tails.

 

[Filosoofis]

I guess people fail to realize its stated that tailed beasts are made completely our of chakra and regenerate. Tailed beasts can't die because of this. This is also why when Naruto got a small fraction of each biju, they regenerated to full size. This is further explained when kinkaku and ginkaku are introduced and are able to go v2. So Naruto only got half kurama, bit that doesn't mean he didn't have full powered kurama, which he did.

If he didn't he wouldn't have been able to use kuramas special power which is the avatar.

They didn't get all the chakra to completely make the jubi, but it slowly regenerated and changes into its true form until it hit the god tree.

Glad I could clarify how just because Naruto has full kurama it makes no difference to when he didn't.

Sasuke > naruto still though.

fixed it for you. But indeed it is true. Also when naruto uses kuruma's chakra cloak in bm or kcm he doesn't really lose much of his own chakra while sasuke does when he uses doujutsu attacks. GG sasuke solos great thread

 

[Tarinth]

By that logic, anyone that wanted to be OP would simply need one bijuu, divide it up 100 times, and get 100 bijuus and go
on to slaughter the world. But no, there is a finite amount of chakra... otherwise Kaguya wouldn't need to absorb all chakra
into her, she would simply regrow all of it.

 

[The Necromancer]

I'm not going by size cuz kishi fcks up scale 70% of the time. I'm going by power. When 50% Kurama busts out 12 tbb's at once and not 5 then I'll believe their equal. Until then 50% Kurama can sit his ass down.


And even at 50% the rest don't hold a candle to kurama, since they can't even use tbb in v2 whIle kurama can even when limited to 4 of his 9 tails.

I don't even know what you're getting at with the first few sentences.

The rest is speculation, as it takes significantly more time and energy to create TBBs in V2 than it does as a full Bijuu, so there's no reason to use a V2 TBB when you can use the full Bijuu to do it. Plus the fact that we've never seen another Bijuu in control of a V2 Jinchuriki. Only Naruto. Every other V2 Jinchuriki we've seen has been controlled by the will of a human.

 

[KingHashirama]

BM's sheer size is smaller compared to Full Kurama's, this should've been enough for proving he doesn't have full kurama.


As far as Kinkaku and Ginkaku go.. they ate Kurama's meat, and hence why they have the small amount of chakra from Kurama. Compared to the actual 9-tails.. Kinkaku and Ginkaku's chakra is fodder.


Kurama in Size is also bigger than the other tailed beasts.

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^^^^^^ This is pretty much the size of BM Naruto's finger size, whic is bigger than a human yes.. but compared to full kurama.. drastically smaller.

 

[The Necromancer]

BM's sheer size is smaller compared to Full Kurama's, this should've been enough for proving he doesn't have full kurama.


As far as Kinkaku and Ginkaku go.. they ate Kurama's meat, and hence why they have the small amount of chakra from Kurama. Compared to the actual 9-tails.. Kinkaku and Ginkaku's chakra is fodder.

I'll ask you the same question.

You believe it's logical that Kurama is not only meant to be 2x larger than the rest of the bijuu who are all the same exact size, but also that he is meant to be nearly 2x stronger than the rest combined?

BM cloak size doesn't matter. The living, breathing Kurama at "50%" was equal in size to the rest of the bijuu, and only barely as strong as 1-7 combined. So logically 100% Kurama is 2x larger than every Bijuu (for no reason, as they don't increase based on tails or strength) and is roughly 2x stronger than 1-8 combined, while the Hachibi struggled against 2 bijuu alone, let alone every bijuu of lesser tails together.

 

[xxsasukex]

Sasuke>Naruto

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't even know what you're getting at with the first few sentences.

The rest is speculation, as it takes significantly more time and energy to create TBBs in V2 than it does as a full Bijuu, so there's no reason to use a V2 TBB when you can use the full Bijuu to do it. Plus the fact that we've never seen another Bijuu in control of a V2 Jinchuriki. Only Naruto. Every other V2 Jinchuriki we've seen has been controlled by the will of a human.

Full kurama can rapid fire 12 tbb's. He did so at VoTe.
50% can only shoot 5.
Full gyuki can only shoot 4.

The rest isn't speculation. Gyuki flat out said ttb can't be done in v2.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Full kurama can rapid fire 12 tbb's. He did so at VoTe.
50% can only shoot 5.
Full gyuki can only shoot 4.

The rest isn't speculation. Gyuki flat out said ttb can't be done in v2.

At vote he had madaras chakra to help. Lol. It's a manga fact bijus regenerate their chakra. Naruto had full kurama the whole time.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Compare the size of Kurama to the buildings of Konoha and then to Naruto's gigantic Rasengan.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

This reminds me of Kenny vs Jane in the Walking Dead on who you like more.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

81436]At vote he had madaras chakra to help. [/B]Lol. It's a manga fact bijus regenerate their chakra. Naruto had full kurama the whole time.

Wat. Like how did you reach that conclusion.

 

[The Necromancer]

Full kurama can rapid fire 12 tbb's. He did so at VoTe.
50% can only shoot 5.
Full gyuki can only shoot 4.

The rest isn't speculation. Gyuki flat out said ttb can't be done in v2.

First of all, rapid firing TBBs does not prove your case. That has to do with skill, remaining chakra level, Perfect Jin Synchronization, and even the will of the Jinchuriki and the power of the TBBs in question. The Hachibi fired just as many as the Kyuubi against the Juubi, yet couldn't handle 2 bijuu at once, while Kurama was able to take them all down.

@bold. Scan. I only recall it being stated that you can't use TBBs in KCM or base. Even so, he's clearly wrong, and chakra levels have nothing to do with ability.

 

[Rιver]

Full kurama can rapid fire 12 tbb's. He did so at VoTe.
50% can only shoot 5.
Full gyuki can only shoot 4.

The rest isn't speculation. Gyuki flat out said ttb can't be done in v2.

TBB can't be done in V2?

:|

Then what did Naruto use against Orochimaru?

 

[KingHashirama]

I'll ask you the same question.

You believe it's logical that Kurama is not only meant to be 2x larger than the rest of the bijuu who are all the same exact size, but also that he is meant to be nearly 2x stronger than the rest combined?

BM cloak size doesn't matter. The living, breathing Kurama at "50%" was equal in size to the rest of the bijuu, and only barely as strong as 1-7 combined. So logically 100% Kurama is 2x larger than every Bijuu (for no reason, as they don't increase based on tails or strength) and is roughly 2x stronger than 1-8 combined, while the Hachibi struggled against 2 bijuu alone, let alone every bijuu of lesser tails together.

BM cloak size does matter. As Size determines their power. Juubi the strongest of all the tailed beasts is drastically bigger than all the other beasts.


Full Kurama would spank every bijuu combined together. There is a reason why BSM = PS for Naruto and Sasuke's case. While for Madara it was Kurama = PS. Huge difference in power. If BM = PS , then Kishimoto would've gone with that instead of making the parrallel of BSM + PS = Full Kurama + PS like how Madara did it VOTE.


50% Kurama > 6 Bijuus

Full Kurama >>> 6 Bijuus

 

[Punk Hazard]

BM's sheer size is smaller compared to Full Kurama's, this should've been enough for proving he doesn't have full kurama.


As far as Kinkaku and Ginkaku go.. they ate Kurama's meat, and hence why they have the small amount of chakra from Kurama. Compared to the actual 9-tails.. Kinkaku and Ginkaku's chakra is fodder.


Kurama in Size is also bigger than the other tailed beasts.

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^^^^^^ This is pretty much the size of BM Naruto's finger size, whic is bigger than a human yes.. but compared to full kurama.. drastically smaller.

Thread over.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

TBB can't be done in V2?

:|

Then what did Naruto use against Orochimaru?

So we're just going to disagree with gyuki's words?

Spoiler

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Or are you gonna own up to the fact that only Kurama can do it.

First of all, rapid firing TBBs does not prove your case. That has to do with skill, remaining chakra level, Perfect Jin Synchronization, and even the will of the Jinchuriki and the power of the TBBs in question. The Hachibi fired just as many as the Kyuubi against the Juubi, yet couldn't handle 2 bijuu at once, while Kurama was able to take them all down.

@bold. Scan. I only recall it being stated that you can't use TBBs in KCM or base. Even so, he's clearly wrong, and chakra levels have nothing to do with ability.

Hachibi fired less than kurama he only shot 4. Kurama shot 5. The link is irrelevant in this case since it was kurama in control. Not naruto. His max 5. 100% is 12.

U can catch that L with river. He said it can only be done in full beast mode, meaning all other modes are out of the question .

 

[wanderingcactus]

yes and no.

its true that they can regenerate but bijuus arent just one's chakras. they are actually entities derived from the 10 tails.

Their form is chakra so that makes them sentient beings rather than living beings.

They can't be killed, true, but they can be exhausted to the point of hibernation (rest in peace, simply put)
So despite being made of chakra, they still have souls. Which is why Minato managed to divide 9 tails.
the Kinkaku and Ginkaku is just them having a small amount of the 9 tail's chakra in them and can deplete it and would not return as they do not have its soul.

The BM is just basically having complete control of the beast's chakra as oppose to being overwhelmed by it (like the forms of Kinkaku and Ginkaku or rampaging Naruto)

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

yes and no.

its true that they can regenerate but bijuus arent just one's chakras. they are actually entities derived from the 10 tails.

Their form is chakra so that makes them sentient beings rather than living beings.

They can't be killed, true, but they can be exhausted to the point of hibernation (rest in peace, simply put)
So despite being made of chakra, they still have souls. Which is why Minato managed to divide 9 tails.
the Kinkaku and Ginkaku is just them having a small amount of the 9 tail's chakra in them and can deplete it and would not return as they do not have its soul.

The BM is just basically having complete control of the beast's chakra as oppose to being overwhelmed by it (like the forms of Kinkaku and Ginkaku or rampaging Naruto)

No BM is kuramas special ability.

And no kinkaku and ginakaku can't exaughst kuramas chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

OP needs to read the Manga.

1. As others have already stated. Full Kurama is far stronger than Half Kurama and far larger.

2. Bijuu being able to regen their chakra is irrelevant as there is clear evidence that this did not happen to Kurama after he lost his other half. What's funny is that you claim the 8 Bijuu chakra that Naruto had regenerated to full amount, even though that is obviously false.

3. The Juubi is irrelevant as it takes in energy from the atmosphere to replace the missing Bijuu Chakra. The Bijuu chakra itself never regenerated to full amount.