What's the big deal with the so called "asspulls" in Part 2?

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I mean, these are magical ninjas with divine power from a demon tree, stuff like willpower and miracles are not out of the question when it comes to unlocking the secrets of their magical abilities. I can totally buy that, my suspension of disbelief is not in jeopardy because Kakashi of the Sharingan somehow possessed the ability to figure out how to do Susanoo with double Mangekyo within seconds this entire time. Good for you Kakashi, you really are a genius.

Now, in Part 1, there was some stupid ass bullshit that simply has no good explanation regardless of how you look at it or pull at straws.

For example, perhaps the biggest asspull in the history of Naruto was when Naruto, who was basically out of chakra, somehow dug a wide enough hole to fit his entire body in through solid ground to get underneath Neji without anyone noticing in under a minute with his bare hands and somehow knew where Neji was without Byakugan or anything and then burst out of the ground with enough force to deliver a decisive sucker punch to Neji's jaw, completely catching him off guard, and knocking him out to win the battle. Now that is what I call retarded writing, but everyone loved it anyway.

Does it ruin the story for me? Nah, but did it make any sense? Hell no, the "asspulls" in Part 2, like when Itachi used Izanami, actually had reasonable explanations for their existence even if we hadn't known about them previously, so there are no complaints there. Izanami in particular actually had some foreshadowing of its existence if you know the tale of Izanagi and Izanami, for which the powers were inspired by.

I have a feeling someone is gonna bring up Kakashi and Obito running in gravity dimension. Kaguya had adjusted the gravity for a split second so her ash bones wouldn't have their trajectory affected, that's when they made their move. Also, Kaguya wasn't very physically strong, she was a "glass cannon" and used ranged attacks and fists made of chakra, which is why she can be affected in the gravity dimension or by Sakura's punch, or have her arm ripped off with relative ease.

So yeah, stop *****ing.
 
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I think the problem with Naruto is that Kishi sometimes likes to give us an impression that it is a logical series that should be taken seriously. When in fact, it's just a Shonen manga.
 

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Now, in Part 1, there was some stupid ass bullshit that simply has no good explanation regardless of how you look at it or pull at straws.

For example, perhaps the biggest asspull in the history of Naruto was when Naruto, who was basically out of chakra, somehow dug a wide enough hole to fit his entire body in through solid ground to get underneath Neji without anyone noticing in under a minute with his bare hands and somehow knew where Neji was without Byakugan or anything and then burst out of the ground with enough force to deliver a decisive sucker punch to Neji's jaw, completely catching him off guard, and knocking him out to win the battle. Now that is what I call retarded writing, but everyone loved it anyway.
It's like you don't even bother to read/watch the manga/anime, Naruto is a Ninja, Ninjas can sense where other ninjas are.
He used Karuma's chakra and still had enough of it left over to pull off one more move.
When you use your brain certain things start to make since.
 

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I think the problem with Naruto is that Kishi sometimes likes to give us an impression that it is a logical series that should be taken seriously. When in fact, it's just a Shonen manga.

I second this.
 

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I think the problem with Naruto is that Kishi sometimes likes to give us an impression that it is a logical series that should be taken seriously. When in fact, it's just a Shonen manga.

Certain aspects can be taken seriously, but you're a crazy mother****er if you ever thought it was supposed to be taken all that seriously when ninja dogs pop out of a wooden bridge to hold some guy with an unrealistically large sword in place.
 

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part 1 is awful! narutos fart on kiba is a literal asspull Lol
 

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My only problem with asspulls is when they contradict what was previously held as a fact.







Not in a "wow he broke through a barrier that was considered impossible" asspull

More like an "How did he do that? X stated you needed X in order to X"
 

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I always wondered that what if there was so many asspulls in real life. :lmao: And, Obito solos. ;)
 

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It's like you don't even bother to read/watch the manga/anime, Naruto is a Ninja, Ninjas can sense where other ninjas are.
He used Karuma's chakra and still had enough of left over to pull off one more move.
When you use your brain certain things things start to make since.

Still doesn't make sense, where did he put all the dirt? Hands are an extremely unwieldy tool when it comes to digging into that sort of hard earth, his finger nails alone would not suffice. Where did he push all the dirt too?
 

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Still doesn't make sense, where did he put all the dirt? Hands are an extremely unwieldy tool when it comes to digging into that sort of hard earth, his finger nails alone would not suffice. Where did he push all the dirt too?

You complain about Kishi making Naruto realistic but yet you're doing the same to prove a point?
I mean, these are magical ninjas with divine power from a demon tree.

So yeah, stop *****ing.
You already answered why Naruto can do such things with the dirt.
Think before you type.
Thread Soloed.
 
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The asspull's clearly support the ideal that Kishi rushed the series.
 

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You complain about Kishi making Naruto realistic but yet you're doing the same to prove a point?

You already answered why Naruto can do such things with the dirt.
Think before you type.
Thread Soloed.

How can he do such things, this is a physical feat that simply didn't obey the laws of physics. Where did the dirt go? He'd have to be moving his arms at like the speed of sound to dig through dirt that fast and there would be no place to put excess dirt...Unless this was very soft dirt which it wasn't.
 

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lol This guy. Are you trying to justify what's wrong with Naruto? Label me surprised. :rolleyes:
 

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How can he do such things, this is a physical feat that simply didn't obey the laws of physics. Where did the dirt go? He'd have to be moving his arms at like the speed of sound to dig through dirt that fast and there would be no place to put excess dirt...Unless this was very soft dirt which it wasn't.

I mean, these are magical ninjas with divine power from a demon tree.
You already answered your own question. ^^^^^
 

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I still consider wireless susanoo an aspull despite being able to explain it. Although madara seeing through shadow clones, mastering sage mode instantly, blitzing SM Naruto (not be even 3rd Raikage did), breaking out of the gates that suppressed the juubi, and remote izanagi (madara was literally dead but the jutsu activated...). One of the reasons I dislike madara, just spits on the manga. :coffee:
 

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I mean, these are magical ninjas with divine power from a demon tree, stuff like willpower and miracles are not out of the question when it comes to unlocking the secrets of their magical abilities. I can totally buy that, my suspension of disbelief is not in jeopardy because Kakashi of the Sharingan somehow possessed the ability to figure out how to do Susanoo with double Mangekyo within seconds this entire time. Good for you Kakashi, you really are a genius.

Now, in Part 1, there was some stupid ass bullshit that simply has no good explanation regardless of how you look at it or pull at straws.

For example, perhaps the biggest asspull in the history of Naruto was when Naruto, who was basically out of chakra, somehow dug a wide enough hole to fit his entire body in through solid ground to get underneath Neji without anyone noticing in under a minute with his bare hands and somehow knew where Neji was without Byakugan or anything and then burst out of the ground with enough force to deliver a decisive sucker punch to Neji's jaw, completely catching him off guard, and knocking him out to win the battle. Now that is what I call retarded writing, but everyone loved it anyway.

Does it ruin the story for me? Nah, but did it make any sense? Hell no, the "asspulls" in Part 2, like when Itachi used Izanami, actually had reasonable explanations for their existence even if we hadn't known about them previously, so there are no complaints there. Izanami in particular actually had some foreshadowing of its existence if you know the tale of Izanagi and Izanami, for which the powers were inspired by.

I have a feeling someone is gonna bring up Kakashi and Obito running in gravity dimension. Kaguya had adjusted the gravity for a split second so her ash bones wouldn't have their trajectory affected, that's when they made their move. Also, Kaguya wasn't very physically strong, she was a "glass cannon" and used ranged attacks and fists made of chakra, which is why she can be affected in the gravity dimension or by Sakura's punch, or have her arm ripped off with relative ease.

So yeah, stop *****ing.

N*gga Kaguya is not glass canon its just that others are too strong
 

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Asspulls are only asspulls if they upset people.

I was only upset when Sasuke survived Deidara by summoning King Manda when it takes a big load to do that then put it under genjutsu and he was so low on chakra he couldn't even keep sharingan on before that.
 
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