What's the big deal with the so called "asspulls" in Part 2?

[Seventh Sama]

I didn't know glass canons can tank a nine bijuu Rasenshuriken or get knocked back by a enhanced punch by six paths sm naruto. That's some good stuff you're smoking OP. But to be serious, asspulls ruin the manga because they contradict previous statements.

I still consider wireless susanoo an aspull despite being able to explain it. Although madara seeing through shadow clones, mastering sage mode instantly, blitzing SM Naruto (not be even 3rd Raikage did), breaking out of the gates that suppressed the juubi, and remote izanagi (madara was literally dead but the jutsu activated...). One of the reasons I dislike madara, just spits on the manga.

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[minamoto 🥈]

biggest Pulla$$ is delaying the Tobidara reveal till naruto part 3....that was definitly the worst Pulla$$

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

That underground pop up thing has been done plenty of times by a load of people though. It was like the most common after clones and substitution jutsu.

 

[Darkboy85]

biggest Pulla$$ is delaying the Tobidara reveal till naruto part 3....that was definitly the worst Pulla$$

Nope, that's just you in denial

OT: Call me crazy, but I'm not even surprised with the kakashi susanoo thing. For me, it was hinted a little before with obito saying that when both eyes meet, an enormous power will awaken (something like that). I know obito said that a few times.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I dont have a problem with asspull that fans many times complaining. Im just hate nerfing.

 

[take it easy]

The great snake escape. Enough said.

 

[Deadmed]

N*gga Kaguya is not glass canon its just that others are too strong

She is compared to Juubito and Madara. If Juubito can break out of all those gates, he could fly in Gravity dimension. Juubito was a different sort of Jinchuriki, his body was like a concentrated beast form Juubi that's why he looked like a creature, Madara was just naturally really physically strong.

 

[Seventh Sama]

She is compared to Juubito and Madara. If Juubito can break out of all those gates, he could fly in Gravity dimension. Juubito was a different sort of Jinchuriki, his body was like a concentrated beast form Juubi that's why he looked like a creature, Madara was just naturally really physically strong.

Juubiti got a hole drilled into him by a sm rasengan and madara almost got bisected by one bijuu Rasenshuriken.

 

[Deadmed]

Juubiti got a hole drilled into him by a sm rasengan and madara almost got bisected by one bijuu Rasenshuriken.

Madara can also be stabbed with ordinary swords, I guess their flesh didn't harder and more resilient to penetration but their bodies became denser and more resistant to being torn apart. As for rasenshurikens they can absorb that chakra, Kaguya did to Naruto's 9 bijuu rasenshuriken barrage and that made her transform. Gai's attacks were far far stronger than anything Sakura can dish out, but Madara was tanking them at first while Kaguya got her cheek bruised. Also the gravity dimension really makes me question their strength, Kaguya obviously wasn't much physically stronger standing wise than Kakashi or Obito, while Juubito and Madara certainly were.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

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[Xāvî1]

Madara with no eyes doing susanoo!

 

[Rikodou Mode]

My only problem with asspulls is when they contradict what was previously held as a fact.





Not in a "wow he broke through a barrier that was considered impossible" asspull

More like an "How did he do that? X stated you needed X in order to X"

Kinda like how Obito transmigrated himself into Kakashi despite not having Rinnegan a.k.a "Transmigration Eye"

 

[Seventh Sama]

Madara can also be stabbed with ordinary swords, I guess their flesh didn't harder and more resilient to penetration but their bodies became denser and more resistant to being torn apart. As for rasenshurikens they can absorb that chakra, Kaguya did to Naruto's 9 bijuu rasenshuriken barrage and that made her transform. Gai's attacks were far far stronger than anything Sakura can dish out, but Madara was tanking them at first while Kaguya got her cheek bruised. Also the gravity dimension really makes me question their strength, Kaguya obviously wasn't much physically stronger standing wise than Kakashi or Obito, while Juubito and Madara certainly were.

You forgot the part where it overloaded her chakra absorption ability and she had to take the attack and I can write you a paragraph on why sakuras "feat" is an outlier/inconsistency

 

[Deadmed]

Madara with no eyes doing susanoo!

Maybe after you unlock Susanoo it becomes part of you and isn't tied to your eyes? I see it as a reflection of their soul given astral form. Maybe the eyes are just a medium required to summon it? I mean Madara was still using it even without his sharingan activated and instead Rinnegan. But you also need Uchiha chakra.

 

[Xāvî1]

Maybe after you unlock Susanoo it becomes part of you and isn't tied to your eyes? I see it as a reflection of their soul given astral form. Maybe the eyes are just a medium required to summon it? I mean Madara was still using it even without his sharingan activated and instead Rinnegan. But you also need Uchiha chakra.

Maybe doesn't count. Then what was wrong with an almost blind sasuke?? Why did he loose susanoo while fighting kakashi?

 

[Deadmed]

You forgot the part where it overloaded her chakra absorption ability and she had to take the attack and I can write you a paragraph on why sakuras "feat" is an outlier/inconsistency

No where does it say that it overloaded anything, she absorbed the majority of the blast just like Madara did with his lava release. YOu really think a rasenshuriken has less penetrating power than an ordinary sword or Obito's hand thrust? Madara and Obito can both absorbed chakra and thus chakra based attacks do very little to them, this one managed to phase Kaguya but as you can see she absorbed most of it and the combination of all the bijuu chakras made her transform.

So I'm assuming her not being able to stand in gravity dimension is also an inconsistency according to you? Even though it was a major part of the plot, while Juubit could break through the weight of many tons of gates stacked on top of him effortlessly? It's not that there's inconsistencies it's just that Kaguya isn't very physically strong.

 

[Deadmed]

Maybe doesn't count. Then what was wrong with an almost blind sasuke?? Why did he loose susanoo while fighting kakashi?

Because he was hurting and low on chakra I thought. Or perhaps Madara's Susanoo is just special sort of like Obito's Kamui, itachi's sealing sword and shield, or Itachi's Tsukyomi. He was splitting it into multiple Susanoo clones and making them run around, that's also the one he used without the eyes not his perfect Susanoo. Fact is it happened in the story, therefore it is possible for Madara to use his magical powers in those conditions, therefore his ability to preform Susanoo (or at least the weaker version of it) had manifested in his body even without his eyes. He could use it while using Rinnegan instead of Sharingan before this too.

 

[Xāvî1]

Because he was hurting and low on chakra I thought. Or perhaps Madara's Susanoo is just special sort of like Obito's Kamui, itachi's sealing sword and shield, or Itachi's Tsukyomi. He was splitting it into multiple Susanoo clones and making them run around, that's also the one he used without the eyes not his perfect Susanoo. Fact is it happened in the story, therefore it is possible for Madara to use his magical powers in those conditions, therefore his ability to preform Susanoo (or at least the weaker version of it) had manifested in his body even without his eyes. He could use it while using Rinnegan instead of Sharingan before this too.

Those reasons you stated are irrelevant, and that is why its an asspull. the more people you ask you will have the same answer!

 

[Deadmed]

Those reasons you stated are irrelevant, and that is why its an asspull. the more people you ask you will have the same answer!

well at least it can be explained, unlike what I mentioned in the opening post

 

[Kirokill]

Your thread surprised me and I didn't like it.
Therefor I name it... Asspull.

You get me?