What Madara REALLY said about Hashirama

Did he mean Hashirama is stronger than his current Edo form?


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ShishaMastah420

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Get over it...Even with Edo Tensei, Madara still continues to preach about Hashirama's strength...

Is this him doubting his own strength?

Is this him yearning for another battle with Hashirama?

Is this him showing the Kages how truly inferior they are?

Could=Plausibily.

This could mean many things but one thing i know for a fact, is that Hashirama has defeated Madara before and lived to tell the tale, which means even under Edo Tensei Madara still is capable of being stopped/deafeated by Hashirama.
 

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Stop being in denial anymore. If Edo Madara said that only Hashirama can stop him, then only Hashirama has the capability to stop him. He might not be able to stop Edo Madara but the latter stated that Hashirama can stop him. He may said it out of respect to Hashirama being the last person he fought and the only one who who beat him for good when he was alive.
 

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He said lcould causa hashi is dead, if hashi was alive he would have said can, I believe the whole point of bringing madara back and having him said that, was kishis way of untrolling wat he did to hashi in part 1. Base on hype I believe they would fight on equal terms right now, so 50/50 on who wins, but madaras stronges weapon perfect susanoo, was already beaten by hashi.
 

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means that hashirama was the only one who could defeat him then, and now that hes no longer alive he can never be defeated. but what he really means that if hashirama was with all 5 of the kages than yes he would lose

you are stupid and just making up something new completely from what madara said...

Madara didn't say or include that hashirama had the need of any sort of team work(e.g. the 5 kages) to win, Madara simply said with complete confidence that as an individual opponent, Hashirama is the only one who could EVER defeat me
 
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Based on what i've seen from Hashirama, Edo Madara > Hashirama.
Based on the hype Edo Madara gave him, Hashirama > Edo Madara.


Until we see what Hashirama is fully capable of, we can't draw a conclusion.

You could be right about what Madara said about Hashirama meaning in past tense. It could also be that Hashirama has other techs that are the best counters to Madara's arsenal.

Hashirama might have other techniques other than his elemental ones that could push Edo Madara to the brink of "death" or might have powerful sealing techniques. If we judge what Madara said about Hashirama in his current state, then this could be the only way that Hashirama > Edo Madara.

From what has been shown though, Edo Madara > Hashirama.
In my opinion, Edo Madara > Hashirama until Hashirama shows more feats.
 

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, is the official VIZ translation of what Madara said about Hashirama:

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"Only Hashirama could ever stop me"

What do you guys think of this? How do you interpret this?

I think it means in his lifetime, only Hashirama could ever win against him. Not now.


He never thought that he have new powers rinnegan and 1st's cell also full susanoo. there no way for 1st hokage can beat him.
 

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1.)Einstein is the most intelligent man ever

2.)Einstein is the most intelligent man in his time.

See the difference? 1st sentence means that Einstein is the most intelligent man even up to the present time. 2nd sentence is limited only to "in his time"

"Only Hashirama can ever stop me" basically means that Madara knows that even up to this time, even in his Edo mode + rinnegan, only Hashirama can stop him. :)


*flies away*
 

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He's like nagato and itachi and hashi put together! no one but the sage of 6 paths and maybe his sons can take him on. He's just way too damn strong.
 

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means that hashirama was the only one who could defeat him then, and now that hes no longer alive he can never be defeated. but what he really means that if hashirama was with all 5 of the kages than yes he would lose

OMG u LMAO!!!! Are u F...in kidding hw did hell does dat sound like. He was with 5 kages he would lose are serious right now cuz I can see u right knw :sy:eek:nly hashirama can Defeat me and. Tsunade was like I can't believe Grandpa fought againt this...God Man go and read all the shippuden manga from 1- 598 cuz u don't get anything....
 

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Get over it...Even with Edo Tensei, Madara still continues to preach about Hashirama's strength...

Is this him doubting his own strength?

Is this him yearning for another battle with Hashirama?

Is this him showing the Kages how truly inferior they are?

Could=Plausibily.

This could mean many things but one thing i know for a fact, is that Hashirama has defeated Madara before and lived to tell the tale, which means even under Edo Tensei Madara still is capable of being stopped/deafeated by Hashirama.

Thank You very much pls Explain that to all Hashi hater what the F..k hashi power was Considered 2 b a fairy tale he waz so strong he waz compared to the sage of the Six path ...pls den Y compare him to minato or the current Kages check his page on Narutopedia...
 

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Given Madaras aloof attitude and big ego, He definitely would've mentioned clearly that he had surpassed HashiramaU_U, but no, it seems he's suggesting that Hashirama can still beat him even with the power boost:shrug:
 

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One notable person disagreed and he's more of an idiot than you. You're getting pwned. Why fanboying so hard? Madara's abilities gave us a glimpse. Madara's statement confirmed things. Manga > You.

Not debating on who would win, not even stepping into that forgotten fanboy v fanboy pool. But you're stating we have only seen a glimpse of Madara's abilities? Tell me how much of a glimpse we have seen from Hashirama.

About the 'could' factor. You could just eat a... hotdog (so to say). That doesn't mean that you could only in the past right?
Only Hashirama could 'ever' stop me, ever is kind of a from the past till now meaning. Fanboy all around if you want, noone here is at the right end untill proven by kishi.
 

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madara dont know naruto bm
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have you ever noticed that uchiha can deactivate their sharingan????
but as you see tobi, kakashi and Danzo can't
this means that tobi is niether obito nor izuna!!
 

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, is the official VIZ translation of what Madara said about Hashirama:

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"Only Hashirama could ever stop me"

What do you guys think of this? How do you interpret this?

I think it means in his lifetime, only Hashirama could ever win against him. Not now.

agree
could ever= pass tense
 

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He said 'could' not 'can' there is a difference.Could indicates past tense
He was referring to when they fought back in their day unless for some reason people think madara was an edo back then as well ? lol Hashirama could still attempt to seal him there is always that possibility.Madara is alive now so the edo thing should be put to rest the real question now is if they fought today madara would no doubt be more powerful then the last time hashi saw him because he now has hashi's dna and the rinnegan on his side should make a re match between them pretty interesting
if they were about equal back down then surely by logic madara is stronger now
but we cannot say who would win until the fight actually gets under way

This.
 

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Sounds to me that Madara was definately speaking about the past - indicating that Hashirama was the only one who could ever defeat him during his lifetime. Makes sense considering Edo Madara is far beyond any form of Madara that Shodai fought.
 

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actually hashirama knows better about edo tensei cuz his brother created the technique!
 

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I can't belv dat hashi has so many haters its written Clearly only hashi could Ever stop me ..so fanboys say Edo madara is far stronger nw tell me wat edo madara has nw dat he doesn't before minus the First Hokage's DNA in his body God Y d hell is dis Even a thread hashi will Rape Edo madara drinking Tea or Eatin a bowl of ramen he clearly Said only hashi could ever stop me den said but knw that his Not here....so please tell me how stupid will u be Not 2 get that...
 
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