What Madara REALLY said about Hashirama

Did he mean Hashirama is stronger than his current Edo form?


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KidGamer65

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Hashirama took CONTROL of Kurama FROM Madara. Sealing Kurama inside Mito does not mean he attained help. Simply put he parked Kurama in Mito while they continued to have their fight. Do you really think Mito had what it took to be anywhere near them when their power destroyed entire mountains? The Madara fanboys take some very vague lines and meld them to their taste.

Hashirama became Hokage, he defeated Madara even after he recruited Kurama. Hashirama was superior and Madara never became Hokage. End of story.

That was EMS Madara, we are talking about Edo Madara, so stating Madara never became Hokage is kinda pointless.
 

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, is the official VIZ translation of what Madara said about Hashirama:

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"Only Hashirama could ever stop me"

What do you guys think of this? How do you interpret this?

I think it means in his lifetime, only Hashirama could ever win against him. Not now.

Why are the words on that different?
 

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Hashirama took CONTROL of Kurama FROM Madara. Sealing Kurama inside Mito does not mean he attained help. Simply put he parked Kurama in Mito while they continued to have their fight. Do you really think Mito had what it took to be anywhere near them when their power destroyed entire mountains? The Madara fanboys take some very vague lines and meld them to their tste.

Hashirama became Hokage, he defeated Madara even after he recruited Kurama. Hashirama was superior and Madara never became Hokage. End of story.

Really, Read this scan
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In order to lend strength to lord hashirama
 

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That is the official VIZ translation of that page.

im not gonna lie, i dont know what official VIZ is but i know the words on that one are different then the words the one on this website.
 

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im not gonna lie, i dont know what official VIZ is but i know the words on that one are different then the words the one on this website.

VIZ are the people who do the official translations. They're the legitimate ones. The ones from this website and others are not translated by the official translators; that's why the words are sometimes different.
 

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VIZ are the people who do the official translations. They're the legitimate ones. The ones from this website and others are not translated by the official translators; that's why the words are sometimes different.

aahhh indeed
 

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No, Kid. Some of these guys are saying Hashirama only beat regular Madara because of his wife, which is very unbased due to his win record. Perfect Susanoo is already stronger than the Rinnegan or anything it has shown so far so if Hashirama beat Perfect Susanoo, he still stands a chance against the current Madara.
 

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current madara>>>whole OPverse and bleach verse
therefore
current madara>>>hashi
 

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No, Kid. Some of these guys are saying Hashirama only beat regular Madara because of his wife, which is very unbased due to his win record. Perfect Susanoo is already stronger than the Rinnegan or anything it has shown so far so if Hashirama beat Perfect Susanoo, he still stands a chance against the current Madara.

Yes kid.

She helped him, So it's highly possible that he needed her help and it was because of her help he won.

We will have to wait for kishi to show us the real fight.
 

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He also said "and he is no longer with us" which means he admits he could be defeated if Hashirama was still there.
 

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You guys are all wrong. What he really said was "Hashirama is so strong and handsome has such dreamy eyes and he has the best wood evah!. Oh how I wish he was still here with us."
 

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He also said "and he is no longer with us" which means he admits he could be defeated if Hashirama was still there.

No, he said that because.....he's dead :|
 

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at madaras current form noone can beat the shiat out of him,i guess he ment on his former lifetime,i mean how hashi is able to defeat the great one ? madara is cutin senju nerds like a boss,true thang there men!
 

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...which means he isn't there to fight him. Do I have to hold your hand or are you going to figure it out on your own?

If Hashi was there, it would be Hashi + 5 kages. That would be a challenge, according to Madara. No chance of Hashirama soloing Edo Madara, who is far beyond Prime Madara, unless u are another fanboy.
 

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If Hashi was there, it would be Hashi + 5 kages. That would be a challenge, according to Madara. No chance of Hashirama soloing Edo Madara, who is far beyond Prime Madara, unless u are another fanboy.

I'm not a fanboy, I'm just stating that Madara said Hashirama was the only one that could ever beat him and then he said he isn't there now. To me, that means Madara believes that Hashirama could still have a chance at beating him if he was there now.
 

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well hashi barely won way back when now madara is like 20x stronger

Curious, why do people keep saying hashi barely won?
Also, Madara's statement was pretty clear, if he imagined himself completely beyond Hashirama, i think he would have simply said so. He was pointing out to the 5 kages that he is way beyond them and only Hashirama would have been a worthy rival, even in this current enhanced, immortal state. Whatever persons are saying, if he had to go as far as employ the use of Kurama( the full powered version at that, and not the 'half' naruto has now) to face Hashirama, then by any stretch of the imagination, Hashirama was that powerful an opponent. Its beyond reasoning why persons cant see this.
 

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hashirama is the only one who could stand a chance and win against madara. also implies, all 5 kages power combined is no where near equal to hashirama.... these guys are f**king GODS!
 
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