What Madara REALLY said about Hashirama

Did he mean Hashirama is stronger than his current Edo form?


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TheSages456

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They make him 100000 times more difficult to kill. Unlimited chakra? Immortal body? Rinnegan to counter Mokuton? Man, you dug youself into a deep hole by talking all that shit before.
stop avoiding the question. madara would end up getting himself sealed against hashirama if he ended up using anything other than perfect susano. madara has the best chance of beating hashirama if he uses perfect susano because that is his strongest tech. hashirama beat it however and who is to say that he cant do it again. madara only uses mokuton and rinnegan powers when he is toying with his opponents. he cant do that against hashirama. madara also called hashirama the ultimate shinobi. you should definitely stop listing madaras powers and using it as an argument. thats crappy debating logic.
 

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stop avoiding the question. madara would end up getting himself sealed against hashirama if he ended up using anything other than perfect susano. madara has the best chance of beating hashirama if he uses perfect susano because that is his strongest tech. hashirama beat it however and who is to say that he cant do it again. madara only uses mokuton and rinnegan powers when he is toying with his opponents. he cant do that against hashirama. madara also called hashirama the ultimate shinobi. you should definitely stop listing madaras powers and using it as an argument. thats crappy debating logic.

There's a limit to fanboying and you past it. If you're gonna continue to ride Hashi's tip, do it elsewhere. You tryin to make out like Edo Madara = EMS Madara. Poor.
 

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There's a limit to fanboying and you past it. If you're gonna continue to ride Hashi's tip, do it elsewhere. You tryin to make out like Edo Madara = EMS Madara. Poor.

who past the fanboy limit you even tell your own idol he is a liar haha
 

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There's a limit to fanboying and you past it. If you're gonna continue to ride Hashi's tip, do it elsewhere. You tryin to make out like Edo Madara = EMS Madara. Poor.
and you avoid the question yet again. how do you do it? if madaras strongest tech couldnt kill hashirama, what are the chances that his much smaller scale techs will?
 

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and you avoid the question yet again. how do you do it? if madaras strongest tech couldnt kill hashirama, what are the chances that his much smaller scale techs will?

Rinnegan + Preta (to stop Hashi's Mokuton) + Gedo
Perfect Susanoo
Mokuton
Limitless chakra
Immortal body

vs

Mokuton

If you don't think that's enough to kill Hashirama then u are a disgrace.
 

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Rinnegan + Preta (to stop Hashi's Mokuton) + Gedo
Perfect Susanoo
Mokuton
Limitless chakra
Immortal body

vs

Mokuton

If you don't think that's enough to kill Hashirama then u are a disgrace.
you act like he can use mokuton+perfect susano and meteors at the same time. you are a fool if you think he can use all his techs at once. its obvious that hashirama has more than mokuton so you should stop downplaying. hashiramas moktuon>madaras also.
 

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you act like he can use mokuton+perfect susano and meteors at the same time. you are a fool if you think he can use all his techs at once. its obvious that hashirama has more than mokuton so you should stop downplaying. hashiramas moktuon>madaras also.

Hashirama doesn't have the feats to rival Edo Madara. And now, the hype people were trying to use, turns out to be a misconception. Till we see Hashirama in action:

Edo Madara > Hashirama

100%.
 

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you act like he can use mokuton+perfect susano and meteors at the same time. you are a fool if you think he can use all his techs at once. its obvious that hashirama has more than mokuton so you should stop downplaying. hashiramas moktuon>madaras also.

We've never seen anything besides Mokuton so how is he downplaying?
 

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Hashirama doesn't have the feats to rival Edo Madara. And now, the hype people were trying to use, turns out to be a misconception. Till we see Hashirama in action:

Edo Madara > Hashirama

100%.
his hype wasnt a misconception. perfect susano is madaras strongest tech and as long as thats so, hashirama can beat him.
We've never seen anything besides Mokuton so how is he downplaying?

he has scrolls full of jutsu. he was the creator of the scroll of seals. he has more than mokuton.
anyways im done here.
 

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We've never seen anything besides Mokuton so how is he downplaying?

ha has earth release water release he heal without jutsu so he cant die like madara ( tsunades jutsu madara mentioned it disagree with him again) wood release sealing jutsu the power to surpress and control tailed beasts he is good with weapons as shown in his fight with madara the pic he has many weapons lined up

and he beat ps by himself no bijuu he was not a jin he did it on his own which shows how strong he is

and that is just whats shown
 

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I interpreted it as " Hashirama and I were the strongest, and he is no longer around."

He is ignorant of Naruto, Bee, Itachi, Sasuke, and Nagato's powers.
 

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he has scrolls full of jutsu. he was the creator of the scroll of seals. he has more than mokuton.
anyways im done here.

Thats the problem, what jutsu, we don't know so we can't say how effective it'd be.


ha has earth release water release he heal without jutsu so he cant die like madara ( tsunades jutsu madara mentioned it disagree with him again) wood release sealing jutsu the power to surpress and control tailed beasts he is good with weapons as shown in his fight with madara the pic he has many weapons lined up

and he beat ps by himself no bijuu he was not a jin he did it on his own which shows how strong he is

and that is just whats shown
What water release or earth release jutsu does he have, we have never seen them so we can't judge how effective they'd be, He can die cause he's not immortal he can just heal without seals, say someone stabbed his heart he would die cause he has fast healing not immortality.
 
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My guess hashi was stronger than madara. He fought against him and kurama. As for now he has rinnegan and hashi's dna. Possibly they are evenly matched now.
 

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My guess hashi was stronger than madara. He fought against him and kurama. As for now he has rinnegan and hashi's dna. Possibly they are evenly matched now.

as much of a fan i am of hashirama...i dont think he can win...unless he is the smartest char in disguise.. or something or there are some sick moves in that scroll of his

also the people who think preta path absorbs mokuton are stupid as hell
 

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Hashirama took CONTROL of Kurama FROM Madara. Sealing Kurama inside Mito does not mean he attained help. Simply put he parked Kurama in Mito while they continued to have their fight. Do you really think Mito had what it took to be anywhere near them when their power destroyed entire mountains? The Madara fanboys take some very vague lines and meld them to their taste.

Hashirama became Hokage, he defeated Madara even after he recruited Kurama. Hashirama was superior and Madara never became Hokage. End of story.
 
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