What kind of uncle would Itachi have been?

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How butthurt is Konohagakure really about the Uchiha Clan Massacre?

No one has ever cared about the Uchiha besides the own Uchihas and Naruto and Orochimaru, so I think they would be cool with it.
 

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How butthurt is Konohagakure really about the Uchiha Clan Massacre?
The Village itself doesn't show the care for most Clan's and their troubles, like how the Hyuuga Clan actually made the lower branch slaves.

However a murderer in the Village ... :lol
 

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In the people's eyes Sasuke was somewhere along the middle. He took out a few Akatsuki members, his murderous brother, and Orochimaru. Though he did lose himself during the Kage summit, and during the Revolution Arc (despite this not being mentioned by Kakashi or Naruto, so it's not clear if anyone knew about this).

Compared to Itachi, most of his repentance was shown through the eyes of the shinobi world he protected. Itachi on the other hand was literally shown working through the shadows.

Either way I'll go with what I said before, and with what you said. I do think it has to do with the people, even you said it yourself. In the people's eyes Sasuke wasn't entirely justified with what he did, however, he isn't in the same stance as Itachi. Especially with what limited information Itachi leaked about what he was doing. And like with what you proposed, the Other Villages wouldn't like this idea either way.


Sasue outright attacked the 5 Kage summit, slaughtered multiple Samurai and was the reason the Raikage lost one arm, while he is also responsible for the death of the stand in Hokage Danzou. Sasuke's performed a chain of heinous acts all at once in the public eyes, (he also attacked Kumokagre as an member of the Akatsuki almost forgot that) while his on big action that saved his ass was him dispelling the IT. Something the entire public most likley doesn't know and is why Naruto is most likely the only one of them two known as the Savior of the World.


Though Itachi repentance wasn't shown it hardly matters, Itachi was in an similar boat as Sasuke if not even worse while you act like Itachi's action could not be made public to boot. Other villages literally couldn't say shit if they was informed of what REALLY happened with Itachi, unlike Itachi nobody forced Sasuke to do what he did.
 
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That's a bit of an overstatement, don't you think? He'd be a little bland if his life wasn't tragic.

No, man, I don't think that's an overstatement in the slightest. And yeah, he woudln't be as interesting IF his life hadn't been so abundant with tragedy, but it was.
I glorify him so much, and he's only my second fav after Kakashi. And I challenge you to find a character in ALL of fiction who's more complex than Itachi Uchiha. Lelouch vi Brittania is the only character I know of who comes even close to Itachi's complexity.
 

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Sasue outright attacked the 5 Kage summit, slaughtered multiple Samurai and was the reason the Raikage lost one arm, while he is also responsible for the death of the stand in Hokage Danzou. Sasuke's performed a chain of heinous acts all at once in the public eyes, (he also attacked Kumokagre as an member of the Akatsuki almost forgot that) while his on big action that saved his ass was him dispelling the IT. Something the entire public most likley doesn't know and is why Naruto is most likely the only one of them two known as the Savior of the World.

Honestly if I were to talk about Sasuke's accomplishments as in returning in the negatives to positives, reviving Orochimaru back to life wouldn't be one of them. Even though the Kage came in and pretty much saved the SA. However what he did was help defeat Juubi Obito, help stop JJ Madara, keep Naruto save so that they could undo the IT, and help stop Kaguya from making the people into Zetsu Clones.

He pretty much saved the World - Despite being a bad guy, which is why he would be favored.

Though Itachi repentance wasn't shown it hardly matters, Itachi was in an similar boat as Sasuke if not even worse while you act like Itachi's action could not be made public to boot. Other villages literally couldn't say shit if they was informed of what REALLY happened with Itachi, unlike Sasuke nobody forced Itachi to do what he did.
He can't though. Itachi specifically stated that he didn't want anyone to know what he did, though what could be argued is him stopping the Edo-Tensei Jutsu. However would that really cancel out what he did? Itachi, with Obito, murdered every single Uchiha (Adult, child, baby, and so forth) so that he could protect his brother. Even if they were informed of what Itachi really did, nothing excuses that. Itachi wasn't forced into anything, he had two options and picked the latter.

Not to mention Itachi also did extra shit on the side to Sasuke which involved him being used in mind games since before he knew about the MSharingan. Itachi used Tsukuyomi on him as a child, and then again when he was a shinobi.
 

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You have to look at it from the people's perspective.


They wouldn't. The only reason why I used that logic was because Kakashi made note to make sure that the only reason why Sasuke was allowed to stay out of jail was because of Kakashi, Naruto, and his war efforts.

Most of Itachi's greatest achievements were kept in secret, along with the true history of the Uchiha. Outside of Sasuke, Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato of course.

Yup as matter of fact this is not revealed to people. And all shinobi still trait him as traitor so in this case itachi wont be allowed to enter village. So even if he lived he will like sasuke wandering around the world.
 

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It sadden me that hidden leaf never got judged for all the troubles they caused in the shinobi world. Obitio was a hidden leaf ninja. Danzo was a hidden leaf ninja who tried to control the other kages at the submit, and orc...yah you get the point. Like really, all other nations should be blaming the hidden leaf after the war.
 

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It sadden me that hidden leaf never got judged for all the troubles they caused in the shinobi world. Obitio was a hidden leaf ninja. Danzo was a hidden leaf ninja who tried to control the other kages at the submit, and orc...yah you get the point. Like really, all other nations should be blaming the hidden leaf after the war.

I don't think they can really blame leaf for what Obito did, anymore than villages are held responsible in general for the actions of missing-nin or Akatsuki stealing bijuu, etc.

But yeah, Danzo's manipulations - which span generations, are literally the fault of the Leaf.
 

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Yup as matter of fact this is not revealed to people. And all shinobi still trait him as traitor so in this case itachi wont be allowed to enter village. So even if he lived he will like sasuke wandering around the world.
Yeah I don't personally think Itachi (if he stayed in character) would want to be in the Village where he had to murder those closest to him.


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The interview shifts to questions more directly related to the manga. At the end of 699, Sasuke leaves the village to go traveling. Entermix asks what was the intention of this and Kishimoto-sensei responds that after all of the things Sasuke has done, it would be tough to live in the village like everybody else so he went on a journey of atonement.



Logically of course, it makes sense. Though anyway I think he would be a good uncle when he saw his niece every time he came back from his travels.
 
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He would've made up for Sasukes absence.

And would've molded her potential early on.

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Pretty much... He'd probably be a father figure to Sarada considering his nurturing and compassionate nature towards Sasuke from before the Uchiha massacre. On an unrelated note he'd probably be Naruto's chief adviser as well thus further increasing Sarada's desire to be Hokage.
 

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How butthurt is Konohagakure really about the Uchiha Clan Massacre?

Yeah good point mate do the villagers even care about the uchiha clan as many doubted the uchiha after nine tails incident.
 

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On a serious note. Would Itachi even be allowed in the Village?
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I know you don't view the novels as canon- but in Sasuke's, Naruto tells people about Edo Itachi helping him and Bee in the war & stopping Edo Tensei (but not about the Uchiha massacre since they feel that if he told them then the villagers might discriminate against Sarada/Sasuke) and they are now okay with him. People were apparently at first skeptical but dropped it because Naruto has no reason to vouch for Itachi (as he has no major affiliation, they're not related, etc). People also initially questioned why he murdered his clan if he was a good person and Naruto vaguely replied with "I'm sure he had his reasons, we don't know his entire story after all". Kakashi vouched for this and everyone followed suit. But, Naruto told people who had heard about him already- people his age and older. The new gen doesn't know anything about Itachi, Sarada included.

In all the villages, if a character is revealed to have done something horrible but helped in the war effort- they were good to go. This is why people are now okay with Kabuto and Orochimaru (they stopped opposing Konoha) as well as others. With this manga canon, it is not a stretch to view the novel pseudo-canon with Itachi as fitting in. After all, Itachi's crimes are a drop in the bucket in comparison to Obito (Kyuubi attack which led to Uchiha massacre, Akatsuki leader and ordered jins to be captured, started war along with Kabuto, etc), Kabuto/Orochimaru (experimented on people when they were alive, killed 50+ babies for simple experimentation, kidnapped children, poisoned people, sacrificed people during Chuunin exams-Oro specifically did this, Kabuto started a war, enhanced a foul tech like Edo Tensei, etc).

But yeah, even if they let him stay in Konoha I doubt Itachi would want to or feel at peace with that idea.
 
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Honestly if I were to talk about Sasuke's accomplishments as in returning in the negatives to positives, reviving Orochimaru back to life wouldn't be one of them. Even though the Kage came in and pretty much saved the SA. However what he did was help defeat Juubi Obito, help stop JJ Madara, keep Naruto save so that they could undo the IT, and help stop Kaguya from making the people into Zetsu Clones.

He pretty much saved the World - Despite being a bad guy, which is why he would be favored.


He can't though. Itachi specifically stated that he didn't want anyone to know what he did, though what could be argued is him stopping the Edo-Tensei Jutsu. However would that really cancel out what he did? Itachi, with Obito, murdered every single Uchiha (Adult, child, baby, and so forth) so that he could protect his brother. Even if they were informed of what Itachi really did, nothing excuses that. Itachi wasn't forced into anything, he had two options and picked the latter.

Not to mention Itachi also did extra shit on the side to Sasuke which involved him being used in mind games since before he knew about the MSharingan. Itachi used Tsukuyomi on him as a child, and then again when he was a shinobi.


You realize Kakashi made it known that none of the above mattered only dispelling the IT mattered in helping Sasuke's case. While like you said for Itachi, most of Sasuke's were not seen by the public at all, nobody was nearing Madara when the fight went down, nobody but team 7 was there when he save Naruto from IT, nor was anybody there when he released IT.

You can't say barley anyone saw Itachi's accomplishments then name multiple things Sasuke did when barley anyone was there.



Itachi didn't want the Uchiha's reputation to change at that time, at this point the situation was different and there would be no reason for him to hold back what happened. Itachi was basically pushed into killing his clan by following village orders, Itachi was 13 at the time the blames would not be all on him, not to mention he helped out the village by spying on the Akatsuki on top of the Edo Tensei. Itachi did everything he did under his village, if anyone is gettong blamed it's the elders. In the public eye the Uchiha bros are just as bad as each other, attack all 5 Kage trumps anything Itachi did. Attcking the summit alone was enough to turn Sasuke into an international criminal. Itachi had two options, both involved him killing, yes he was forced to spill bloods the only difference is would if be for his village or for his clan.



Why would Itachi be prosecuted for what he did to Sasuke wen barley anyone what happened when he first came to the village.
 

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You realize Kakashi made it known that none of the above mattered only dispelling the IT mattered in helping Sasuke's case. While like you said for Itachi, most of Sasuke's were not seen by the public at all, nobody was nearing Madara when the fight went down, nobody but team 7 was there when he save Naruto from IT, nor was anybody there when he released IT.

Doesn't matter what Kakashi made him realize, it doesn't change the fact that Sasuke did more harm than good to the shinobi world. Hence the reason why Naruto, and Kakashi, could vouch for him. If he was a murderous psychopath, him just saving the world wouldn't be all that reasonable.

Still in this Manga, people like Orochimaru get a free pass. Despite killing a Hokage, kidnapping and torturing children for experiments (along with Adults), and so forth.

You can't say barley anyone saw Itachi's accomplishments then name multiple things Sasuke did when barley anyone was there.
Except the fact that he did? The only accomplishment which was seen by someone else was via Sasuke, whom saw Itachi release the Edo-Tensei Jutsu. While Sasuke's heroics were shown during the War Arc, which mind you, didn't start when Madara became the Juubi. He was fighting since he arrived with the Kage's.

Long before Obito lost his powers.



Itachi didn't want the Uchiha's reputation to change at that time, at this point the situation was different and there would be no reason for him to hold back what happened. Itachi was basically pushed into killing his clan by following village orders, Itachi was 13 at the time the blames would not be all on him, not to mention he helped out the village by spying on the Akatsuki on top of the Edo Tensei. Itachi did everything he did under his village, if anyone is gettong blamed it's the elders. In the public eye the Uchiha bros are just as bad as each other, attack all 5 Kage trumps anything Itachi did. Attcking the summit alone was enough to turn Sasuke into an international criminal. Itachi had two options, both involved him killing, yes he was forced to spill bloods the only difference is would if be for his village or for his clan.
I was responding to this, "unlike Sasuke nobody forced Itachi to do what he did."

So I'm not really interested in the entire topic itself. I was just showing you that Itachi had choices to make, and wasn't forced into anything. He chose the latter option because Sasuke would survive, which was explained rather openly in the Manga.




Why would Itachi be prosecuted for what he did to Sasuke wen barley anyone what happened when he first came to the village.
You realize that many people knew Itachi had tortured Sasuke, right? He was even openly abused by him after Sasuke found out Itachi was after Naruto, and after their encounter, he was left in the hospital due to the mental strain of being Genjutsu'd.
 

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I wonder... It would be awesome to see Sarada training with him, specially knowing she's good with the shuriken, just like he was.

he would probably murder her family so that she could become stronger . .. . you know what any loving uncle would do
 

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he would probably murder her family so that she could become stronger . .. . you know what any loving uncle would do

Well, given that Sarada tried to abandon her family and thought they were nuts only to come to the conclusion that she should stay and become Hokage so she can look at the entire village as her family, I guess she wouldn't mind. She'd be proud that her uncle would protect the village once again like that. :cool: That he killed the parents she thought were nuts to save her village family (ChouChou, Naruto, etc) that she cares for. Then, Itachi would train her and she'd get stronger. It would be an uncle-niece duo protecting Konoha and bringing honor to the Uchiha.

Wouldn't that be great. (':
 

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I know you don't view the novels as canon- but in Sasuke's, Naruto tells people about Edo Itachi helping him and Bee in the war & stopping Edo Tensei (but not about the Uchiha massacre since they feel that if he told them then the villagers might discriminate against Sarada/Sasuke) and they are now okay with him. People were apparently at first skeptical but dropped it because Naruto has no reason to vouch for Itachi (as he has no major affiliation, they're not related, etc). People also initially questioned why he murdered his clan if he was a good person and Naruto vaguely replied with "I'm sure he had his reasons, we don't know his entire story after all". Kakashi vouched for this and everyone followed suit. But, Naruto told people who had heard about him already- people his age and older. The new gen doesn't know anything about Itachi, Sarada included.

In all the villages, if a character is revealed to have done something horrible but helped in the war effort- they were good to go. This is why people are now okay with Kabuto and Orochimaru (they stopped opposing Konoha) as well as others. With this manga canon, it is not a stretch to view the novel pseudo-canon with Itachi as fitting in. After all, Itachi's crimes are a drop in the bucket in comparison to Obito (Kyuubi attack which led to Uchiha massacre, Akatsuki leader and ordered jins to be captured, started war along with Kabuto, etc), Kabuto/Orochimaru (experimented on people when they were alive, killed 50+ babies for simple experimentation, kidnapped children, poisoned people, sacrificed people during Chuunin exams-Oro specifically did this, Kabuto started a war, enhanced a foul tech like Edo Tensei, etc).

But yeah, even if they let him stay in Konoha I doubt Itachi would want to or feel at peace with that idea.

That sounds counter to what Itachi wanted to be seen as a criminal lol. An unknown hero. Stoopid nardo
 

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That sounds counter to what Itachi wanted to be seen as a criminal lol. An unknown hero. Stoopid nardo

I think it's fine at this point, since he just wanted to be known as a criminal for the sake of Sasuke and the clan. Naruto found a way to redeem Itachi by telling them about Edo Tensei only so it wouldn't affect the Uchiha's rep and future. So, it was smart.

The child molestor type.

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