What is your opinion on Obito's Kamui?

[iSpeak the Truth]

I believe it's an actually pretty incredible technique. I would personally say it's the best Sharingan technique that their is, because it's incredibly effective and there doesn't seem to be may drawbacks.

Thanks for posting, but you didn't read the thread.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Thanks for posting, but you didn't read the thread.

I actually did, i just never posted the other side of it....

I don't believe it's much stronger because of the cells. I personally believe that his eyes have two different abilities, like all other sharingans.

Kakashi has the ability to wrap things at a distance and himself in to the other dimension, wither as Obito can only wrap himself and thing that he touches....

However... What makes his ability so effective. Is that fact he is able to stay physically visible while his actual tangle body is in another dimension, this gives him the advantage in seeing his opponents, giving him a better chance to strike and counter.

Kakashi may get to the stage were he is able to enter and exit the dimension instantaneously, however.. He might not be able to see what his opponents are doing, due to him not being able to see what's going on in reality.

That is my opinion...

 

[GiantShuriken]

Obito is beast.

 

[Reaper]

Kakashi only started using it recently
Obito has been thought more about his MS then the regular Sharingan techniques

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

I actually did, i just never posted the other side of it....

I don't believe it's much stronger because of the cells. I personally believe that his eyes have two different abilities, like all other sharingans.

Kakashi has the ability to wrap things at a distance and himself in to the other dimension, wither as Obito can only wrap himself and thing that he touches....

However... What makes his ability so effective. Is that fact he is able to stay physically visible while his actual tangle body is in another dimension, this gives him the advantage in seeing his opponents, giving him a better chance to strike and counter.

Kakashi may get to the stage were he is able to enter and exit the dimension instantaneously, however.. He might not be able to see what his opponents are doing, due to him not being able to see what's going on in reality.

That is my opinion...

Yes, but the the ability to send the body parts that are being attacked, to the other dimension is not just an eye jutsu. He has to warp himself to get to that dimension. The fact that his entire body is interconnected with that dimension is proof that his Kamui's powers go beyond a mere Dōjutsu.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Obito is beast.

I agree? But what do you think about the question?

Kakashi only started using it recently
Obito has been thought more about his MS then the regular Sharingan techniques

Kakashi has already displayed the extent of his powers, which are quite similar to Obito's at this point. The part I am referring to, is Obito's ability to stay intangible during a fight.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Yes, but the the ability to send the body parts that are being attacked, to the other dimension is not just an eye jutsu. He has to warp himself to get to that dimension. The fact that his entire body is interconnected with that dimension is proof that his Kamui's powers go beyond a mere Dōjutsu.

That's merely an assumption that i personally don't see... I don't believe that having hashiramas dna would allow him to "innerconnect" With a dimension that Hashirama himself couldn't enter...

I understand, were you are coming from allow i believe that ability is purely down to the fact that he is a owner of the sharingan, so in a sense you could say that it's his dimension. I don't think that the DNA does anything more than strengthening the eye (Lack of strength, less stress on the eye) , and the persons physical body ( Chakra ).

 

[Zol]

Yes, but the the ability to send the body parts that are being attacked, to the other dimension is not just an eye jutsu. He has to warp himself to get to that dimension. The fact that his entire body is interconnected with that dimension is proof that his Kamui's powers go beyond a mere Dōjutsu.

It never said anything about his body being connected with that dimension. He just sends it there with his jutsu. And Kakashi can do that too, or else he wouldn't be able to return from said dimension.

Let me put it simple: Kakashi said it's one jutsu. You say it's the Juubi. Who's more credible on that matter?

 

[YellowFlash1]

It never said anything about his body being connected with that dimension. He just sends it there with his jutsu. And Kakashi can do that too, or else he wouldn't be able to return from said dimension.

Let me put it simple: Kakashi said it's one jutsu. You say it's the Juubi. Who's more credible on that matter?

I believe he meant to say that, kakashi doesn't have the ability to have physical image of himself in reality while in the dimension.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

That's merely an assumption that i personally don't see... I don't believe that having hashiramas dna would allow him to "innerconnect" With a dimension that Hashirama himself couldn't enter...

I understand, were you are coming from allow i believe that ability is purely down to the fact that he is a owner of the sharingan, so in a sense you could say that it's his dimension. I don't think that the DNA does anything more than strengthening the eye (Lack of strength, less stress on the eye) , and the persons physical body ( Chakra ).

Hashirama's cells have merely amplified his Kamui giving him abilities way beyond what he would normally have without those cells. It is an ability that pertains to Uchiha + Senju

It never said anything about his body being connected with that dimension. He just sends it there with his jutsu. And Kakashi can do that too, or else he wouldn't be able to return from said dimension.

Let me put it simple: Kakashi said it's one jutsu. You say it's the Juubi. Who's more credible on that matter?

sigh....what Kakashi meant was, Obito's ability to enter the Kamui dimension and his ability to become intangible are both one jutsu. Because when Obito becomes intangible, he's not really becoming intangible, he's sending the parts of his body that are being attacked to that same dimension.


The fact that his body automatically appears in that dimension when touched by his enemies is already proving the fact that his body is connected to that dimension through his Kamui.

What I am saying is, this is not just a Dōjutsu, it has been amplified by the Juubi's power. Aka Senju + Uchiha

 

[YellowFlash1]

Hashirama's cells have merely amplified his Kamui giving him abilities way beyond what he would normally have without those cells. It is an ability that pertains to Uchiha + Senju


sigh....what Kakashi meant was, Obito's ability to enter the Kamui dimension and his ability to become intangible are both one jutsu. Because when Obito becomes intangible, he's not really becoming intangible, he's sending the parts of his body that are being attacked to that same dimension.


The fact that his body automatically appears in that dimension when touched by his enemies is already proving the fact that his body is connected to that dimension through his Kamui.

What I am saying is, this is not just a Dōjutsu, it has been amplified by the Juubi's power. Aka Senju + Uchiha

It's merely speculation i that personally don't see. I understand how you came to that conclusion however, i don't believe that's the source to his powers being what they are.

In a sense it's merely a genjutsu that as appeared, like a hollow-gram. That takes the physical appearance of Obitio, while is linked to his brain which is why he is able to see what's going on. While by physically somewhere else.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

It's merely speculation i that personally don't see. I understand how you came to that conclusion however, i don't believe that's the source to his powers being what they are.

Well atleast you see what I mean.

 

[Draphsin]

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Obitos kamui is just a regular sharingan technique, madara even implies it

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

In a sense it's merely a genjutsu that as appeared, like a hollow-gram. That takes the physical appearance of Obitio, while is linked to his brain which is why he is able to see what's going on. While by physically somewhere else.

Genjutsu cannot be performed through Ninjutsu. Kamui is the strongest Ninjutsu of Obito's MS eyes. When Obito is actively intangible, his entire body is appearing in his Kamui dimension, and you're right he is merely a projection of himself in the real world. And you really think this is all just an eye jutsu? The Juubi's power is playing its part.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

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Obitos kamui is just a regular sharingan technique, madara even implies it

This is false, it's a mistranslation. Obito got half of his body crushed and the fact that he survived with the rest is a miracle, a coincidence.

A regular Sharingan cannot perform a Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Genjutsu cannot be performed through Ninjutsu. Kamui is the strongest Ninjutsu of Obito's MS eyes. When Obito is actively intangible, his entire body is appearing in his Kamui dimension, and you're right he is merely a projection of himself in the real world. And you really think this is all just an eye jutsu? The Juubi's power is playing its part.

He never had the Juubi's power when he first activated his Kumai, during the time he saw rin get killed. There hasn't been any tailed beasts captured at that time. It was merely a shell of the 10 tails that madara had.

I didn't mean literally genjutsu, was an extension for the projection description haha. Never the less.. I doubt it's got anything to do with the Juubi or anything else.

 

[Prince Charles]

Everything you said is mainly speculation.

Obitos kamui is merely a ms tech, it has nothing to do with hashi cells or the juubu or what not.

 

[Draphsin]

This is false, it's a mistranslation. Obito got half of his body crushed and the fact that he survived with the rest is a miracle, a coincidence.

A regular Sharingan cannot perform a Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu.

yes this is true, however that picture implies that obito did slip through those rocks, otherwise madara wouldnt have made that statement.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

He never had the Juubi's power when he first activated his Kumai, during the time he saw rin get killed. There hasn't been any tailed beasts captured at that time. It was merely a shell of the 10 tails that madara had.

I didn't mean literally genjutsu, was an extension for the projection description haha. Never the less.. I doubt it's got anything to do with the Juubi or anything else.

Notice how his Hashirama body reacts to his rage and MS and the Mokuton branches exit his body, he becomes intangible that very second, as the Shuriken are shown going through him, also those same Mokuton branches look just like the ones on the Juubi's back.

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[iSpeak the Truth]

yes this is true, however that picture implies that obito did slip through those rocks, otherwise madara wouldnt have made that statement.

Actually he didn't, every manga translation website only tells you the overall summary and not the specifics of the characters words. I will soon provide a VIZ MEDIA translated page. They are the official distributors of Masashi's work.