What is your opinion on Obito's Kamui?

[MrSimple]

How can someone without a Mangekyou use a Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu? Madara simply said, "half of your body was crushed, and it's a miracle that you survived. Using an MS jutsu without an MS is illogical and this phenomenon is highly misunderstood.

Well, you're underestimating the sharringan now, look at what the other eyes are capable of. I don't know how he happened to survive, if it was a miracle or the pain he went through granted him that intangible thing. If we look at the flashbacks it was a miracle that he even spoken with Kakashi and Rin for so long, right?. It seems he already had the MS and when Kakashi and Rin run away and when he lost consciousness he slipped through the rocks and went down.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

So cause Kamui made his whole body intangible it's no a ocular jutsu? So what do you say about Susano'o it protects the user whole body. I don't remember any block rods, but the manga has already made it clear it's one jutsu(Kamui), you believing him goin intangible isn't apart of Kamui is goin against the manga, but you can believe what you want.

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Susanoo is a jutsu awoken by those with both their Mangekyou eyes, it is the ability to materialise ones chakra in the users own image.

Kamui is hardly in Susanoo's league, what I am saying is, how can he send his body parts to the other dimension without warping them through his eye? It seems obvious to me that the Juubi's power, which is Hashirama + Uchiha, has amplified his Kamui, and his intangibility is a result of that.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Well, you're underestimating the sharringan now, look at what the other eyes are capable of. I don't know how he happened to survive, if it was a miracle or the pain he went through granted him that intangible thing. If we look at the flashbacks it was a miracle that he even spoken with Kakashi and Rin for so long, right?. It seems he already had the MS and when Kakashi and Rin run away and when he lost consciousness he slipped through the rocks and went down.

Obito awakened his MS when he witnessed the murder of Rin, just as Kakashi did. I can give you manga proof of that, can you do the same for your theory?

 

[narmeiter]

i think it would have been the same even if he didn't have hashi's cells. They just give him more chakra.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

i think it would have been the same even if he didn't have hashi's cells. They just give him more chakra.

But that is just a baseless assumption. We have manga proof of Obito going intangible right after his blood reacted with Hashirama's artificial body and the black rods came out of him, along with the Mokuton branches.

Also...Hashirama's cells don't just give him chakra, they also give him Mokuton. So why wouldn't his Kamui which is also implanted in that same side, benefit from that?

 

[MrSimple]

Obito awakened his MS when he witnessed the murder of Rin, just as Kakashi did. I can give you manga proof of that, can you do the same for your theory?

Yeah, that's why Idk why Madara said that he may slipped through the rocks... I hate these plot twists.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Yeah, that's why Idk why Madara said that he may slipped through the rocks... I hate these plot twists.

It is a mistranslation, I will soon provide the 100% accurate VIZ translation of that page.

 

[dirklyn]

Obito's eye is just a gift to him, just like hashirama's mokuton....#simple

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Obito's eye is just a gift to him, just like hashirama's mokuton....#simple

Well, not his whole eye, just his intangibility, everything else is also available to Kakashi.

 

[ady adham]

I am not sure who you're agreeing with....[/QUOTE]

im pointing to u man...

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

im pointing to u man...

Oh ok....thanks for clearing that up!

 

[narmeiter]

But that is just a baseless assumption. We have manga proof of Obito going intangible right after his blood reacted with Hashirama's artificial body and the black rods came out of him, along with the Mokuton branches.

Also...Hashirama's cells don't just give him chakra, they also give him Mokuton. So why wouldn't his Kamui which is also implanted in that same side, benefit from that?

But obito uses kamui due to him having ms which he acquired alongwith kakashi on seeing rin's death. It wasn't because of hasi's cells.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

But obito uses kamui due to him having ms which he acquired alongwith kakashi on seeing rin's death. It wasn't because of hasi's cells.

What I was referring to as a baseless assumption was the part where you said Obito would still have intangibility without Hashirama's cells.

 

[Zol]

It's his MS-ability, that's all. Kakashi is just a bit behind in using it effectively, since it isn't his eye and he hasn't trained as long as Obito. But recently, he warped Gyuki around - a pretty big effort.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

It's his MS-ability, that's all. Kakashi is just a bit behind in using it effectively, since it isn't his eye and he hasn't trained as long as Obito. But recently, he warped Gyuki around - a pretty big effort.

Yes but I'm saying his intangibility isn't a Dōjutsu at all. It surely stems from his MS, but is a result of the Juubi's power, Hashirama + Uchiha cells.

How else is it possible for him to send parts of his body to the other dimension without warping them through his eye? It's an OP ability resulting from Hashirama's cells and his MS eye.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

obito kamui is the only reason he hasnt been killed except for izanagi its his hype
i admit he skilled with those shuriken and taijutsu but in th end kamui what make him and kakashi hard to kill

 

[Zol]

Yes but I'm saying his intangibility isn't a Dōjutsu at all. It surely stems from his MS, but is a result of the Juubi's power, Hashirama + Uchiha cells.

How else is it possible for him to send parts of his body to the other dimension without warping them through his eye? It's an OP ability resulting from Hashirama's cells and his MS eye.

Kakashi actually explicitly stated that the absorbing of things/people and the intangibility is one and the same jutsu. the two moves connect to the same other dimension. He later proved that, since after being sucked in by Obito, he was able to attack him once Obito became intangible, and then returned to the real sphere with his Kamui.

 

[yellowxflash]

Its a bad egg

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

obito kamui is the only reason he hasnt been killed except for izanagi its his hype
i admit he skilled with those shuriken and taijutsu but in th end kamui what make him and kakashi hard to kill

That wasn't my question.

Kakashi actually explicitly stated that the absorbing of things/people and the intangibility is one and the same jutsu. the two moves connect to the same other dimension. He later proved that, since after being sucked in by Obito, he was able to attack him once Obito became intangible, and then returned to the real sphere with his Kamui.

I have already answered this in my previous reply to you. His powers stem from his Kamui, but his intangibility isn't actually an eye jutsu, it's a derivation of his eye jutsu but was created from the Juubi's power.

Its a bad egg

lol

 

[YellowFlash1]

I believe it's an actually pretty incredible technique. I would personally say it's the best Sharingan technique that their is, because it's incredibly effective and there doesn't seem to be may drawbacks.