[Theory] What is "That Jutsu?"

[NamkazeNaruto]

I have to disagree, as I've already stated:


Jiraiya said, "I believe that he (referencing the 4th Hokage) meant for Naruto to complete that jutsu." Minato obviously knows about "that jutsu."

WHen minato used the FTG he said 'FTG lvl 1,2,3,4 etc" you should get what i mean by just that statement. This will help Naruto use FTG at higher level perhaps level 5 and more. that will allow him to seemingly teleport much more easily than Minato and be able to battle Madara on the same level. Nevertheless my theory eliminates the " Sasuke and Naruto teeming up" teory . and if this theory of mine comes to life, i doubt ( i'm sorry to say this ) that Sasuke will even survive, i'm not saying Naruto will hill him maybe it will be Kabuto who interferes in their battle when Sasuke is weakened. So if this is FTG this will resut ans a major turnover in the storyline.

 

[-Hades-]

WHen minato used the FTG he said 'FTG lvl 1,2,3,4 etc" you should get what i mean by just that statement. This will help Naruto use FTG at higher level perhaps level 5 and more. that will allow him to seemingly teleport much more easily than Minato and be able to battle Madara on the same level. Nevertheless my theory eliminates the " Sasuke and Naruto teeming up" teory . and if this theory of mine comes to life, i doubt ( i'm sorry to say this ) that Sasuke will even survive, i'm not saying Naruto will hill him maybe it will be Kabuto who interferes in their battle when Sasuke is weakened. So if this is FTG this will resut ans a major turnover in the storyline.

Do you know the difference between FTG lvl 1 and 2?
And also what do you think could change if let's say you reach lvl 3 or 4? And how do you know such a thing even exists? Minato created the jutsu so if there were higher lvls to the jutsu i highly doubt he wouldn't know of them.

 

[NamkazeNaruto]

Do you know the difference between FTG lvl 1 and 2?
And also what do you think could change if let's say you reach lvl 3 or 4? And how do you know such a thing even exists? Minato created the jutsu so if there were higher lvls to the jutsu i highly doubt he wouldn't know of them.

yeah you're prolly right. but FTG is the only thing that comes up to my mind. can't help it though

 

[BigTDogg220]

WHen minato used the FTG he said 'FTG lvl 1,2,3,4 etc" you should get what i mean by just that statement. This will help Naruto use FTG at higher level perhaps level 5 and more. that will allow him to seemingly teleport much more easily than Minato and be able to battle Madara on the same level. Nevertheless my theory eliminates the " Sasuke and Naruto teeming up" teory . and if this theory of mine comes to life, i doubt ( i'm sorry to say this ) that Sasuke will even survive, i'm not saying Naruto will hill him maybe it will be Kabuto who interferes in their battle when Sasuke is weakened. So if this is FTG this will resut ans a major turnover in the storyline.

Why'd you quote me in reference to your statement? That quote you took was in reference to psukkar saying that he doesn't even think the 4th knew about "that jutsu."

As Minato Sensei alluded to the 4th never mentioned anything other than Flying Thunder God lv 1 and 2.

I understand what you're saying in that, it would be awesome for Naruto to learn the Flying Thunder God at a level far beyond the forth...something equivalent to Madara's space time teleportation.

 

[NamkazeNaruto]

Why'd you quote me in reference to your statement? That quote you took was in reference to psukkar saying that he doesn't even think the 4th knew about "that jutsu."

As Minato Sensei alluded to the 4th never mentioned anything other than Flying Thunder God lv 1 and 2.

I understand what you're saying in that, it would be awesome for Naruto to learn the Flying Thunder God at a level far beyond the forth...something equivalent to Madara's space time teleportation.

i can only say that the statement about it being a sealing rasengan is transparent, we have no basis on which we can depend when stating that the rasengan can allso seal. well ovetall i am just stating the ideas that come up to my mind, but the original theory about the sealing rasengan was awesome, but absurd nevertheless. and about the quote i wanted to quete the message above yours , misquoted sorry.Even though i am a hard core anti-sasuke i really hope that his jutsu won't be smt too strong and that naruto will learn it just after the battle with sasuke ( which i strongly believe Naruto will win) i do not rlly want the battle to end in like 1-2 chapters. I rlly think ths one is some other level of FTG something that disrupts time-space perhaps ?about Minato sensei's statement, if you can just read the chapter , i highly recommend you do

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it says FTG lvl 2 . discuss

 

[psukkar]

But guys you all forgetting what the key frog said about this jutsu.

"why does Naruto even need this technique"

Why would the frog describe this technique this way? IF it's simply a technique to kick ass with.

There's more this jutsu in my opinion than simply used for attack or defensive purposes.

 

[BigTDogg220]

well ovetall i am just stating the ideas that come up to my mind, but the original theory about the sealing rasengan was awesome, but absurd nevertheless. and about the quote i wanted to quete the message above yours , misquoted sorry.Even though i am a hard core anti-sasuke i really hope that his jutsu won't be smt too strong and that naruto will learn it just after the battle with sasuke ( which i strongly believe Naruto will win) i do not rlly want the battle to end in like 1-2 chapters. I rlly think ths one is some other level of FTG something that disrupts time-space perhaps ?about Minato sensei's statement, if you can just read the chapter , i highly recommend you do

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it says FTG lvl 2 . discuss

Good to know, I was just trying to figure out why you quoted me. No problem man. I don't think that a sealing rasengan is any more ridiculous than some other things we saw. I personally am just hoping that it's not just a massive blast of some sort. I like that techniques in Naruto have some detail and requires some skill to use.

Something that disrupts time-space jutsu would be fitting, but I wonder if Minato would've been developing something like that since he died the day he fought Madara. I think we'll all end up being surprised about "that jutsu" just as we were surprised about Naruto's SO6P Chakra Cloak. Kishimoto always saves some surprises.

 

[BigTDogg220]

I rlly think ths one is some other level of FTG something that disrupts time-space perhaps ?about Minato sensei's statement, if you can just read the chapter , i highly recommend you do

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it says FTG lvl 2 . discuss

What do you want me to know about the Flying Thunder God level 2? I've already read Naruto Manga 502, hence my signature.

Another level of Flying Thunder God is certainly possible. I think it'd be awesome if Naruto is so capable of using his chakra as arms and legs that he can just teleport attacks, specifically rasengan. I know it's far fetched, but it's the first thing that comes to mind when I see this

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[seyren01]

what jiraya said to naruto is not a sealing jutsu...... its the "Odama rasengan"
Jiraya said to nruto not to use it, bcoz he do not mastered it before.......


and what the toad said completeing jutsu.. was the sealing jutsu used by minato....to seal the kyuubi inside naruto... bcoz that sealing jutsu is not yet complete... and that jutsu need the key for naruto to have full control of the kyuubi

 

[seyren01]

try to read more of naruto manga... and read all of it again..... and you'll know what i said was right

 

[-Hades-]

Ok except removing the necessity of the seal in order to teleport FTG seems a pretty complete jutsu to me... i don't see how you could improve it, although Naruto might surprise us just like he did with rasenshuriken. xd
And that jutsu isn't the seal Minato used... if it was then naruto would need to learn about it in order to master the kyubi and so the scroll frog wouldn't have said "does naruto even need that jutsu?".

 

[BigTDogg220]

what jiraya said to naruto is not a sealing jutsu...... its the "Odama rasengan"
Jiraya said to nruto not to use it, bcoz he do not mastered it before.......


and what the toad said completeing jutsu.. was the sealing jutsu used by minato....to seal the kyuubi inside naruto... bcoz that sealing jutsu is not yet complete... and that jutsu need the key for naruto to have full control of the kyuubi

That totally doesn't make any sense. We don't know what jutsu he told him not to use, period. There isn't anything that supports that being the Odama Rasengan.

It also makes no sense to call gaining full control of the Kyuubi a jutsu. First reason is controlling the Kyuubi is not a jutsu. Where did you see anything that even made you think that?

The sealing rasengan is only a theory and I know there is no support for it.

May I suggest you to take your own advice:

try to read more of naruto manga... and read all of it again..... and you'll know what i said was right

Start here and think about it:

Jiraiya's mention to Naruto :

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Jiraiya talking to Gematora:

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Naruto's mention:

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The support for "that jutsu" being something completely unseen is in the multiple mentions of it. If the Odama Rasengan was the one he wasn't supposed to use, there would've been a mention since we saw it. It also wouldn't make any sense that it keeps being mentioned over and over.

 

[seyren01]

i have proof of "that jutsu" is the odama rassengan... remember b4 the mission of saving gaara, that is the first time that naruto will use Odama rasengan... so it will have bad effects on him

 

[seyren01]

there is a proof......... we saw that Jiraya talked to naruto about that jutsu, it is b4 Naruto, kakashi, sakura and chiyo basama fought itachi

 

[-Hades-]

Ok we have 2x "That jutsu". First when Jyraia told Naruto not to use "that justu" before they went to the sand... and second when the scroll frog asks Jyraia "If naruto even needs that jutsu?". So we have 2 different things here...
The first one could have been Odama rasengan who knows, and now who cares?... We are all excited to see the justu naruto will learn from the toad scroll.

 

[nevergiveup10]

The oft mentioned somewhat ominous reference of "that jutsu." "That jutsu"was being developed by Minato and Jiraiya and Jiraiya taught it to Naruto. It's an incomplete jutsu that Naruto believes having control of the 9 tails will allow to use. To my knowledge it's been mentioned 3 times.
-First when Naruto was going to save the Kazekage Gaara, Jiraiya told him not to use "that jutsu."
-It was next mentioned by Gematora (the key toad) before Jiraiya fought Pain. Gemtora questioned Jiraiya saying does Naruto even need that jutsu.
-The last mention was when Naruto received Gematora.

So my theory on "that jutsu" is that it's a sealing rasengan. Minato likely using the advanced Uzumaki sealing jutsu's was attempting to merge the sealing jutsu with the rasengan to create an eternal seal somewhat similar to Itachi's Susannoo's sword. "That jutsu" will likely only be used once or twice and will defeat Madara in the end.

Anyone with a thought on what "that jutsu" is please comment.

i mean that a good guess..if u ask my opinion, i have no idea..i think your prediction is probably the best one yet

 

[Klockrent]

Probaby Kamehameha

 

[BigTDogg220]

But guys you all forgetting what the key frog said about this jutsu.

"why does Naruto even need this technique"

Why would the frog describe this technique this way? IF it's simply a technique to kick ass with.

There's more this jutsu in my opinion than simply used for attack or defensive purposes.

You've certainly got a point there.

 

[BigTDogg220]

i have proof of "that jutsu" is the odama rassengan... remember b4 the mission of saving gaara, that is the first time that naruto will use Odama rasengan... so it will have bad effects on him

I don't understand how you see that as proof. If it really was the jutsu he wasn't supposed to use, they would've at least taken a moment to talk about it being dangerous or something.

Personally I doubt it, but how about we got with Minato Sensei's idea here

Ok we have 2x "That jutsu". First when Jyraia told Naruto not to use "that justu" before they went to the sand... and second when the scroll frog asks Jyraia "If naruto even needs that jutsu?". So we have 2 different things here...
The first one could have been Odama rasengan who knows, and now who cares?... We are all excited to see the justu naruto will learn from the toad scroll.

BTW there are at least 3 mentions of that jutsu, I listed them with the links on page one of this thread.

 

[naruto sennin]

The only mentions of that jutsu were by jiraiya and the toad. that jutsu is probably mastering/using kyuubi chakra. i say this because jiraiya tried to teach naruto to control the fox but naruto lost control after four tails came. After that he told him to not use that jutsu. plus remember the toad key saying " does naruto really need that jutsu." The toad was reluctant to store himself with naruto in 489 and 490. It could be ftg but does anyone really want naruto to learn it like his dad and come up with a million variations like he did with rasengan. i mean come on ftg lvl 1,2 ,3, 4 , 5 would be boring like rasengan is now. we are all speculating but its either kyuubi control or something we havnt seen yet in the manga.